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781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 24, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
So, Malen to Dortmund, 35 mil Euros fee. At first it looks like a direct replacement for Sancho, but he doesn't actually play on the right wing. Then again, neither did Salah early in his career.

Anyway - this looks like another great piece of business from Dortmund. He looked really dangerous on the Euros and he was one of the best Eredivisie players for a while already, he might be a bit worse than Sancho but the money difference will help Borussia strengthen the other parts of the team.

If they sell Haaland, they will have ~250 million euros to reinvest into the team. Huge money, a great opportunity, but not an easy task as well.
What people do not realize is that they do not have to reinvest that money into the club right away, they do not even have to do it in 2 seasons, it is a money there that will make the team financially stable for a long time and they could use that to make things a lot better for them in the long term.

You could get better youth facilities, you could get a lot better staff for every place, you could get better facilities for the A team, you could get 2 players for 40 million dollars each for 3 seasons, these are all things you can do. Hell with that kind of money you could even get a bit more loan and build a whole new stadium very easily. So, it is the kind of amount that could turn a team from decent to great in less than a decade if you use it wisely. Or you could be like Barcelona and make so much money and the spend it badly and become poor and not doing great. So, it is a bit of a problem.
782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season Champion: Milwaukee Bucks on: July 23, 2021, 08:08:25 PM
CP3 is the head of the players association so he can't just "I am going to play for minimum salary and try to get a ring", if he could have done that he would have so many years ago but he wasn't looking to be in trouble. If you end up with not getting the maximum money you can and avoid that in order to get a ring, then how could other players trust your judgment when it comes to negotiating salaries against the teams?

These days it is easy to say to players they are not getting more money, but NBA is making more and more profit in the long term and that means teams are going to make more and more profit in the long run as well, even if a team loses money in a season, they make a lot more than that in valuation, if you lost 100 million dollars a season but your team gained 250 million dollars in value you are still in profit, so players will eventually want more, and CP3 needs to be honoring that path in order to stay there. Or he may end up retiring from that position and move to Lakers who knows? It is basketball, anything could happen.
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784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's causing the decline this time? on: July 23, 2021, 12:16:01 PM
Can't see anything particular in the news, or is there? EM? China? Anything I'm missing?
There hasn’t been any serious decrease or increase as of recent. The price has been quite stable around the $30,000 range. There also have not been any serious event that I would say will lead the price to a fall. It might be like this for long. I’m also not expecting any increase, despite that I have seen some analysts that analyzes another bull run, but I don’t believe that.

China is usually the main cause of the decline from last year until now, this happens because China has the largest bitcoin mining company in the world, and now that it is closed by their country, it causes bitcoin to go down very far.
As for China and their closure of bitcoin mining farms, that’s been a while it happened and whatever effect it’s meant to have in the market, I believe it has already done that. So whatever we are seeing now is just a normal up and down movement of the market.
785  Economy / Economics / Re: Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return on: July 23, 2021, 11:31:41 AM
Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.
In terms of war, well you’re right about that, but when it is about economy and investment, that’s just how it is; high risk means there is likely to be high profit. It is not everyone that invests in a high risk investment that is going to make profit, some people will face the high risk and some will profit, everybody is not going to win, except those that knows what they are doing. Even at that, no matter how good you are, there are still going to be times that you’re going to face the risk and lose.

So, you misinterpreted it, because in terms of economy and investment, it is high risk and high reward. But it is not the same for war, and war is totally different from investments, it is a thing of death and is a very bad thing. Only stupid people pray for war.
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Convince me that bounties paying in anything other than Bitcoin are worth it on: July 22, 2021, 04:43:48 PM
I agree with almost everything been said in OP but I will answer what I probably could here.

I just do not understand why people would want to work for free without any guarantees at all. If you are really unlucky you could spend 1000s of hours doing work for these bounties and profit nothing. I am interested in hearing about your experience with these bounties and how much you profit when it comes to withdrawing the tokens.
Because there are fewer projects and 100 times more participants. That is also the reason why you will see even scam projects or shady ones getting enough attention from bounty hunters. There is a common tendency among bounty hunters, that is - If even I don't get anything from these tokens, why shouldn't I try it at least, because it costs me nothing.
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy some low cap coins on: July 21, 2021, 05:31:35 PM
one of the best low market cap coins 2021
A lot of people would choose to invest their money in Bitcoin even at now. Even if you’re looking for altcoins that will perform best, I don’t think that low cap coins are the answer here. Maybe altcoins that has a bigger market cap would make a good option in this case. Now that the market is going down, altcoins with lowest market cap would be the ones at the receiving end. They will be more likely to be losing their value as the market continues to depreciate.

I know that there are altcoins that doesn’t have any form of correlation with bitcoin, so they have a chance at moving up, but their chances are less.
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: 22 july, BTC 20k$ or 70k$? on: July 21, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
I agree on that 70k$ is very high, we are now July 18 and the price of btc is 31k$ so I think there is no way for bitcoin to rise up to 70ks this July. Maybe it will rise up to 70k$ before the year end but not this month of July. The price is still big and we still in favor of rising because the bitcoin price still didn't drop down below 30k$ so we need to hold on.
This is more about hyperbole of course, basically do we think that bitcoin will be going up or down in 22th July? That's more like it, of course it is not known and it is not going to be decided until that day comes and they tweet. I do think that there is a good chance that we should not be really hoping for anything that should be very high, I do not think that neither 20k nor 70k will happen, I think it is either 35-36k levels if we are lucky, or it will be 27k or so at the bottom it has to be one of those things.

But the main idea of the question doesn't change, do we believe that bitcoin will go up or down after this meeting? If you can focus on that part of the question you will realize that there are a lot of people who are still caring about these people and their opinions so I really do not care what they will say but more about what people will think.
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: another bullrun before 2021 ends on: July 21, 2021, 01:18:36 PM
A big bull run may not happen, only a small bull run is bound to happen. we can see in Q4 2021 for sure that there is a small possibility of an increase. so I guess there's no need to worry and the bull run is coming soon
q4 is the decisioning moment for all of us because that is the time when the market really shows its capacity to either increase or decrease .

But i still sympathetic about the incoming Bull this year end .
Q4 usually ends up being a huge bull, but the summers have always been bad as well, that is the thing about crypto, the drops are steep and the increases are insane so when you face a horrible fall, the increase doesn't seem so much shocking neither. We have dropped from 60k to 30k so seeing a 100% increase would not be so shocking, normally in any other thing in the world making 100% profit in one quarter would have been insane.

In any case I have to say we do not have to see a bull run neither, like for example in 2018 we had a bear run, in 2019 we moved from 3.5k to 14k until summer, then finished the year at 7k, which was a total gain overall but still a loss from summer to end of the year. I have to say it doesn't really mean that we will go up or go down, it is still anyone's game and the price could change a lot, could be 20k or could be 50k by the end who knows?
790  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbet.io - Main sponsor of Southampton FC on: July 20, 2021, 08:23:39 PM
It doesn't work that way on most bookies. Bookies take the risk and adjust the odds on the market to hedge their exposure. In your example they would just lower the odds on favorite and incentivize players to take underdog bet.

What you wrote is absolutely correct on bookies which work on pool system (no central authority to cover bets, player betting directly against other players), but I don't know any major bookie which operates in that way. I tried several and liquidity was always a major problem. This type of bookies will change the odds for your bet until the match starts. So you can place bet at @1.8 and end up getting paid out @1.3 or@2.5, no guarantees.

I'll take sites like Sportsbet over those bookies every day of the week. I need my odds to stay the same after placing the bet Smiley
I feel like maybe we have a miscommunication, I am not talking about those type of bets, I am talking about sportsbet type of places where if a game is not gambled way too much, then you can't really gamble way too much on it. Maybe I am wrong, steve could clear this up for us, but for example if there is a game with total $100 gambled so far, you can't suddenly put 100k in it, depends a bit on your account as well if I am not wrong, like a person who has already lost so much here may end up gambling more than a person who will have their first ever bet, but aside from that I doubt the 100 bucks total could be wagered 100k suddenly neither, that is just how I imagined it worked.

However like I said this is not something I know, I just assume what is going on and that's it, I am not going to end up saying what I think as the factual thing, I just assumed it was like that but Steve can correct me if I am wrong.
791  Economy / Speculation / Re: 22 july, BTC 20k$ or 70k$? on: July 20, 2021, 05:15:19 PM
Let's go below 20k$  Roll Eyes (seriously, you can't know.... but by analyzing the past and the differents psychologies of the investors and by knowing how the market is manipulated, then we can says that it's highly probable than it could return under 20k$)

You talk like if people were there to hear a "very intelligent guy" talk, in fact most people are investing to gain money not to support the blockchain, first fact. Second fact, if this famous "intelligent guy" was very intelligent he would have start supporting alternative coins not a slower crypto such as bitcoin is.

By the way the fact that bitcoin mining uses renewal energy doesn't justify the fact that we should use this energy to continue to mine this slow and old cryptocurrency that is called "bitcoin", there is far more better alternatives (not that i'm against Bitcoin, but there is a lack of developpement)
The logic is that it will not be 20k because of the high support level there, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen. The main idea is that if we are facing something that is not as great as people are imagining then the price will drop, if they come out of the meeting and say that they have decided not to work together and all that, then the price will drop that is the main idea, that is what we should be focusing on, because as long as it drops then there is nothing else we can do to try to guess if it will be 20k or not.

I say there are a lot of support levels that needs to be broken, dropping under 28k first, then dropping under 25k, then 22-23k level which has a huge support, so we have a lot of support until 20k and that means its hard with just one tweet and one bad meeting. However like I said, it is basically anything goes in crypto.
792  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbet.io - Main sponsor of Southampton FC on: July 20, 2021, 11:42:46 AM
Main sponsor of Southampton but it doesn't allow me to place more than $120 bet on NaVi vs G2?
Come on guys lol
Really? They have quite low limits on eSports when compering to other sports but I made bets way bigger than that even on low tier tournaments. Did not try it today but my limits usually get triggered around 20mBTC and that is only for handicaps. Over maps or ML go at least double that. In addition to that you can always make eSports bet trough that dedicated part of Sportsbet page. When you access eSports trough there you are placing bet with slightly different odds (using other odds provider) and I believe you have new limits. You also have much more markets to chose from.
It is not about limits to certain places, it is also about limits to what one person can play until there is a bigger pot. So let me explain it this way, if there is a total pot of 200 dollars, they can't just allow someone to gamble 120 dollars into one side, that would make it just too heavy for one side and that is the problem, if they do allow that then where will they stop? So they allow max of let's just say 50 bucks? Could be any small number, and then next person gets to gamble 60, then the other 70 but if it keeps being on just one side then it will start to go lower again as well.

Long story short there are football games with a million dollar bets because it can be covered, there are others who gamble there as well, but when you look at esports if the whole pot is under 200 bucks and all for one team, then it would not be financially smart to allow people to keep gambling on that side for high amounts.
793  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin Marriage on: July 20, 2021, 09:33:06 AM
Marriage is the ultimate symbol of commitment and the foundation of your love to your partner. Your ceremony is where you and your partner declare your vows, and dreams together. Couples look forward to their wedding day and do their best to make it a memorable one. This couple however chose to share their cherished moment in their lives on the blockchain.
Well, it’s a good one, but I’d still pass. I prefer the use of rings for wedding, and not this NFT thing. But it’s still cool, everyone is free to make their choices whatever way it suits them best.They can make use of ring to do their wedding and still use the Blockchain to store their contract permanently of they want to.

And it would have been better that you provided a link for this post for others to also read about it and get a full understanding on how the marriage worked. The image you posted is not just enough about this. A link to the story on a website that is very popular would have been really good.
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: David Gokhshtein: Bitcoin Price Will Reach $80K on: July 19, 2021, 06:54:29 PM
Don't wish anything from these influencers, they only care for their portfolio and not yours. They want to hype the people because they have been staking on to something and they want to make money out of their followers, I say we just watch out and see what happens or at the least invest in the coins that you think they are going to support so you can cash in when they try to do a pump and dump.
That is the scary thing, there are tons of people who rely on others to make bitcoin go up, a tweet, an interview, even advertisement somewhere, look at Mclaren f1 they have two! So basically we are expecting marketing to be done on crypto for some reason, for ten years we didn't do marketing, we just made a lot of money and that is what our marketing was and that is what we could have done and nothing more, and for some reason people are thinking that marketing is the way now.

This is crypto, you buy it, you hold it, you make profit like you can nowhere else, that is all the marketing you need if people want to get rich then they will buy crypto or they should not be interested at all, let them be out. It is scary that people believe about the crypto situation, and if people do not give these people power then we could all by ourselves can do it.
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: July 19, 2021, 06:19:39 PM
By the looks of it Bucks vs Suns thing is getting a bit more like a given up thing at this point, most of my friends that like to watch and follow NBA do not even care about the finals right now. Think about it the next game is literally the finals of the whole NBA and maybe will decide on the champions and they are still not caring. I do not know what the reason for this could be but it is obvious that NBA became something  very boring in the past few years for sure, no idea what could be my excuse but I know my friends just think that it is boring.

If NBA doesn't step up and do something, I am pretty sure that they are going to end up losing a lot more customers as well. Viewership numbers shows this as well, they have been rapidly dropping for the past 2-3 seasons and unless NBA does something to improve and get the attention again, we could see NBA not having this much attention anymore.
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Polkadot Price Down – Time To Buy DOT? on: July 19, 2021, 05:29:11 PM
Polkadot really looks promising and it would be a very wise decision to invest in it, expecting a price of at least $5. 😉
Are you expecting the price to drop as low as $5? I don't think that is ever going to happen given how decent a project it is and considering it was trading around 50 bucks some time ago.

When you say, at least $5 though, it seems like you are expecting growth and the price to reach $5 which doesn't make sense because it is already more than double that right now.

I seriously believe that DOT will at least reach $25 before the end of this year so ultimately a very worthy investment, but please anyone don't take my word because the crypto world is just too unpredictable.
797  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Tips for Trading from Beginner, For Beginners. on: July 19, 2021, 04:45:35 PM
Do not use a large amount will be our concern, especially if we are beginners because that means our risk will become higher and if we do not have many skills or can not analyze the market, that will not take too long to lose the money. It is better to use small money while still learning and understanding how the lesson can help us trade. And if you feel that you can accept the risk and have more skills than before, you can add more money to trade. Learning trading will not stop, even if you can become a pro trader because the market itself will change day by day.
I don’t think there is any rule that is more important than the other, no. It’s just like food and water, you cannot take one away from the other, because you need the both of them to live. That’s how it is in this case, you need all of them in your trading business so you can succeed in it.

Yes, you do need to start small, but what’s the need of starting small when you have no knowledge or skills on how to trade? You’re just going to keep losing those small amount of money until you have lost all of them. Losing your first trade doesn’t automatically mean that you have gained an experience that will make your second trade better. So you have to learn first before you start trading. And moreover there are demo trades these days.
798  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what is point of Tehnical analysis? on: July 18, 2021, 07:44:31 PM
The market will remain unpredictable no matter what is happening around. Having TA gives you some insight into what will possibly going to happen next but we can't fully rely on this as this will not give us 100 assurance of where the market trend goes by.
I agree but having the knowledge of TA analysis makes you confident on your trading activities especially on where to enter and take profit this is really very important, TA kills is really great help to predict the possible breakout of a coin without the knowledge and help of trading indicators it will be very difficult to analyze market movement in the short term. 
That's the idea, TA should be something exactly like what you are talking about but the weird part about it is that people do not use it that way, and crypto doesn't move like that. You can be damn certain about what is going on and you can invest accordingly, right before a break out as the chart says, but then some tweet by Elon, or some Chinese news, or whatever and suddenly it crashes.

The biggest example of this happened in November of 2018, in that month for a whole week TA looked like the price would skyrocket, it was around 6.5k and people were estimating at minimum 13k and probably then some, probably capped at 18k because the resistance was way too huge to break there, so there was a chance of 13 to 18, what happened? The price crashed to 3.5k because Craig Wright sold thousands of bitcoins all at once. This is why TA is not always safe in crypto world, something unexpected to happen is something expected here.
799  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: July 18, 2021, 06:45:16 PM
In any case, it is good to see that Roobet offers a wide variety of promotions. There must be something for everyone.
But, I feel like the problem is that official people are not talking about the promotions of roobet enough here unlike how most other casino places are doing, yeah promotions should have been shared here as well.

I personally believe that if roobet is doing ANY promotion, doesn't matter if it is 500 dollars or 5k dollars or 5 million dollars, WHATEVER they are doing should be done in here as well, they should share it here as well.

What I really believe that we should somehow reach to roobet officials and tell them how important bitcointalk is, because apparently they are not really understanding what is going on here, bitcointalk is such a vast place for casinos is that we literally decide on which place will get better and which place is bad (when they are scam of course) that is why I think there is a good amount of chance they are not aware that we should be getting shared all those information as well. Not only on big ones, but should get notified with the small ones.
800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site on: July 18, 2021, 05:46:01 PM
There is one more interesting point: in any ToS of any casino you can find terms that will be unacceptable for you. And what to do in this case? We cannot offer our conditions for a casino or find casino where everything suits us, so we have to compromise and hope that these unpleasant points will not be important.
this is a big thing
if the terms are really against your beliefs than you should probably avoid using the website

since we can't change it unless we open our own online casinos

same applies to other website like social media, or even email service.
Some of the players playing at crypto casinos have gambling banned in their country or some may have crypto banned and the casinos are well aware of these things. They will let the gambler lose as much as he wants but once he gets lucky or hits a jackpot the casino will take advantage of the position gambler and forfeit his winnings.

Then I feel that if any famous platform has some sketchy rules, surely someone will dig deep and make it public. There are casinos running for years now and if there was any problem in the rules they must have been exposed by now.
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