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781  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it still worth it to trade? on: April 04, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
I wonder if someone still should get into trading Bitcoin at this point? There was a time with incredible aggresive swings so that daytrading was interesting, but now the movements appear but much slower. Is it still worth it to trade?
That's a normal flow of movement in the exchange platform, and I agreed that day trading was a very profitable thing to make money in this industry in terms of bitcoin trading, that's many became rich in trading, which means it is really worth to trade here.
782  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: April 04, 2017, 07:42:51 PM
My best investment is in trading site that is the best investment site. Because we nkow that is the best way to earn bitcoin. Now a days almost investment site like , ponzi, hourly or doubler many of them scam. So dont take risk in investing in hyip dont waste your time in hyip coz they have scheme.
Yes that's right! it is the best thing I think to invest some of your bitcoin into altcoins. Because I do believed there are other coins that are good to invest in which you can find and check it at coinmarketcap.com then choose the top 20 coins listed in there where you gonna invest your bitcoin before you gonna trade it in the exchange platform.
783  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: April 04, 2017, 07:24:56 PM
Good decision. It's very hard to make money in BTC trading even you work for it full time. You need to do long term trades (buy at bottom-hold-sell at top), it should increase your trading accuracy.
Long term trading basis is a very safe to do, you only need to Buy and hold then wait it 2 to 3 years then let's see what's the value its gonna be. As long as you can afford to buy then do buy from time to time. Then once you get involve yourself in trading you should stand for it no matter what it takes,.
784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: April 04, 2017, 07:05:14 PM
Many people became broke because of gambling, addiction is a serious disease, you know they can't stop when they win or lose. Pathetic gamblers.

It's pathetic and that's why I would recommend a psychologist for any potential gambler because when you eventually lose more than you can handle then you should know that's the dead end and if care isn't taken you'll become an addict.

A professional psychiatrist / psychologist needs to help gamblers that are in such serious situation like this one. There are some saying that it won't help and it will depend to the gambler but with such guides from these people will help you to give up gambling easily also don't forget your family will play a big role for it.

Quitting from gambling is definitely not easy. If someone is really determine to quit from it, it should come from both sides, the people that advices/guides you to quit from gambling and yourself that really want to escape from addiction. That way you will slowly get out of addiction from gambling and start a new chapter of your life.

Of course you should do the initiative and you need to have the willingness to quit gambling. If you are not that willing then what's the sense of quitting if you are not willing. Also you need to find some more interesting thing that will catch your attention so that you can have some time for relaxation to yourself and forget gambling a little by little.
Willingness to quit gambling would really be needed and should really be the first step because next steps wont be effective or useless if since from the start you are not willing on quitting it because you will surely play gambling again no matter what. Strong patience,determination and discipline would really be require for you to quit gambling gradually.
Those you have mentioned that a gambler needs to quit gambling is very essential. You should really push yourself in quitting because if you will not push yourself and you are not determined with your plan for it. You will just fail yourself on quitting. But if you are aspiring and hopeful to quit gambling, go for the goal.

I think that the best way to quit gambling is to realize that you are an addict and then to sick for help.
If you ask a professional help they could help you much better then u could help yourself.

We really can't quit gambling alone we need to accept the fact that we can't do it by ourselves. Seeking help with others is just a normal and it shouldn't be a thing to be ashamed of. Because if you are desperate to quit gambling you will do something for it, whether it will come from professional, friends or family.
quitting in gambling is the hardest thing that most gamblers can't do it so easily, and its hard because of the addiction they had in their character. But if you are really determined to quit, you can make it as long as you close person which it can be your family, parents, girlfriend/wife, and friend who can guide with your problem.
785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: April 04, 2017, 06:48:11 PM
Hi guys!
Gambling is nearly as old as the humanity itself. What was your way to start gambling?
How did it go? How long have you been gambling? Have you ever stopped for a while? Do you see any future in gambling?
Let others know and share your stories! Wink
What was your way to start gambling?
I started to gambled in land home based casino, because I was jut invited me by my friend who is addicted in gambling.
How long have you been gambling?
I've been in the gambling before less than a year I think it was 8months.
 Have you ever stopped for a while? Do you see any future in gambling?
Yes, I stopped when I started to work in the company I just came back only when I've involved in bitcoin industry, then I don't see any future in gambing it is more like always lose in the games.

786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 04, 2017, 06:31:59 PM
It can be a profitable activity if we make good use of the money that we are goimg to win in the gambling game. Don't gamble into addiction so that it the money will turn as your profit. If you already gained good winnings you must be satisfied of what you have and don't expect for another bigger one, because it maybe lost if you bet more rounds of game.
Maybe you understand a different meaning of profitable. Profitable means making money and when you already made some money that means it's profitable regardless of how you use the money. You will never know what could happen when you are playing but surely you know what you would do if you win and has cash. You just have to be patient and know what you are doing in order to win.

For make quick profit, I'm usually martiangle with small amount and increase gradually for higher profit.
Sometimes I'm also take high risk to martiangle with high risk high reward so I can profit in haste
But sometimes using martingale with the small amount in gambling is not that effective at all, because if that is really effective there shouldn't be a gamblers who will always loses in the end. Isn't right?
787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: April 04, 2017, 06:15:37 PM
I think it is because we still think that gambling is our ticket of getting rich. We still risk our money thinking someday we will win and won't not work anymore. Although we just lose more we don't think about it because our only goal is to win in gambling.
Addiction is different for me. It is like you just gamble even if it is not already good for you and you already hurt the people around you. Your only objective in your life is do gambl8ng.
that's most of the gamblers mindset, to get rich immediately. But just like what you had said, even no matter how strong their belief is it wouldn't help them to become rich in gambling. Because it will always end up of losing every time they do play in the game and their goal was always to win and they never think that their going to loose.
788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: April 04, 2017, 04:50:41 PM
i person do not feel shame while playing gambling at all.i i like to play gambling with a strategy and planing and only through this way i cam make myself safe while playing gambling.

As long as playing gambling games does not affect your life negatively, there is no reason to be ashamed of being a gambler.  But if you got addicted then definitely you must be ashame of yourself. Letting gambling to take control of your life and make it ruin you.  You can have rehabilitation as repentance and total stop of gambling.

Yes that right! and as long as you're not hurting anyone or anybody no reason to be ashamed of family unless you do something which is not good and had a bad effect to your love ones or family, well I think that's the right time for you to stay away from it.
789  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes in trading that lead to loss of money on: April 03, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
Your mistake/s in trading that leads to loss of money
I think it will be the best to share your story so that we can avoid your past mistakes.
Yes that is totally true,  I remembered when I was a newly starter in trading I thought it was like gambling that depending in luck though I know Buy at low then Sell at high but don't know yet how to read the chart/graph in the exchange sites and because of that mindset for not understand well what trading is really all about I lost 0.1BTC, That time greed was came up to me and I bought a coin for a short term then I never know it will be my worst moment which in the end I've loss.
790  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: April 03, 2017, 07:57:43 PM
Nope. No way. Absolutely not.  Grin I may put about 1/3 of my free money, that's my limit and even with just that, there's no way I could be calm about it.
I do wish I'd  put it all in Bitcoin back in 2010 but, nah there's just no way I'd ever do that. Not a chance.

Why? I put all my money in it and somehow it crashes, I'd lose it all. I put half of my money in it, and it doubles/triples/whatever, then I'd still have earnings. I'm fine with nice, steady, extra income. ^^


Yeah, that's right! It is too risky also to put all your funds into bitcoin because sometimes the volatility/fluctuation is very aggressive its okay if we are sure that its always up the value how about when it crush it down it will be hurt for us to feel that way. and beside for now its good  that we are earning some few of bitcoin, including myself maybe someday I will place all my fund into bitcoin but not now.
791  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you think is a good time to start trading ? on: April 03, 2017, 07:37:35 PM
Its not about how much money you have to trade, its all about how ready you are to start trading.
You can start trading after you learn about what kind of coins you want to trade.
You can start trading after you learn about what makes the price of that coins rise or drop.
fulfill your head with knowledge about market, and start.
This is true, these are the basic things to do for starter newbie in trading platform. Trading is not an easy to apply, its not because you can earn big profit, you can get it so easily. Well of course, there's a due process first to be happen before you experience of how to earn bitcoin in doing trade.
792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where is everyone? on: April 03, 2017, 06:58:48 PM
remember not so long ago bitcointalk was filled with altcoins shills who wanted to replace bitcoin?  Cheesy
now where are they?

i tell you where, getting dumped hard and prices fall like a stone.
Dash: gone down -60%
ETH: gone down -40%

the dump is real now, everyone else who didn't beieve it is now getting crushed under the whales of these coins who pumped them and now are existing.

and all the while, bitcoin has been getting stronger and stronger. and now bitcoin is back on track as we have all expected it to.

stop listening to the lies told by altcoin pumpers and stick to bitcoin.
I never attempt to buy dash ever because from the start I knew it was Pump and dump only, my reason what does Dash did in terms of the project? It was just hyped only to catch and get the interest of others to invest their coins. And now as we can we see ti was totally crushed down 60%. And its too impossible that bitcoin can be replace by some of the altcoin now. Smiley
793  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: RIP Bitcoin, better luck next time on: April 03, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
So Satoshi Bitcoin will split to Chinese Bitcoin and Blockstream Bitcoin.

If only core developers were capable/motivated/competent to find a solution to increase block size so that people can continue using bitcoin without paying ridiculous fees and insane confirmation time.
Anyways, if there is a split then BTC will not survive as BU needs 70% miner support and if there is 70% support, even less than 50% of those miners can do a 51% attack on BTC, so BTC will need to change their POW as they are planning now, at that point BTC will no longer be BTC but just another altcoin, and a technically inferior coin to many other altcoins.

So why wait for everything to fall apart when the only option is to choose an altcoin and start using it.
 
Sounds that you are one the fanatic enthusiast of the altcoin which you think that those can possibly kill and destroy the capability of bitcoin.
But you are totally wrong with your speculation. Since bitcoin is the King and Mother of all cryptocurrency it will never be happen that there's someone can replace bitcoin especially with the price is far milestone other altcoins. And I know more community will embrace bitcoin and the demand will get more increase in the near future.
794  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to accept Bitcoin as payment method. on: April 03, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
This can be a big boost to Bitcoin though I have not seen the news making an impact on the value of Bitcoin. Anyway, this is already a big good news considering that Japan is a big economy. I am wishing that Japan can be able to counterbalance the hegemony of China relative to Bitcoin. Though am still wondering what can be the difference between a form of payment (the status stamped on Bitcoin) and being a currency...

Yes, Agreed! A country that accepted bitcoin as a payment method is a good advantage for the bitcoin enthusiast like us to promote more about it. I wish this would be the beginning of each nation to accept it as their currency little by little.
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why people use dice bot? on: April 03, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Whats the point of buy it ?
I never experience to try to use it either buying it. maybe to some other player use it when time they are busy then they're gonna they're bot in a dice while not around in their home. But I think it a way of making profit, it is only a matter of giving automatic doing a part to set in a bet amount then that's it. But still for me manual still better to do and to use it.
796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: April 03, 2017, 11:46:23 AM
Both, but I like to make money of course, i really dont like to lose money, that makes me sick in the stomach.

Yeah, who doesn't like to make money. But when it comes to fun, it means that whether happy or not, but you won't go bankrupt at least if you are playing just for fun. And when it comes to profit, you might end up losing everything and cry harder if such thing happens that you won't expect.

Well all of us does really want to make money but if you are going to do it with gambling for sure you are going to have problem with it.

Because getting money with gambling is really hard at all. So, it is better if you are going to enjoy it as you gamble so that you are going to enjoy your money before it lose or win.
Gambling is really designed I think for happiness only and nothing else aside from that, due to if you are thinking about how it will become profitable well, its not that how it used to be. Because in gambling it is most often ended up of losing in money and sometimes it end up lost of everything.
797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 03, 2017, 10:59:17 AM
Gambling. Is It Wrong?
for me it is wrorg wrong wrong
i lost 2.05btc
ihave 0 btc now
Sometimes problem is not main problem, instead we or ourselves is the main cause reason why we've loss everything. So once we decided to enter the gambling world or industry it is the beginning of our changing the lifestyle we had. And as we all know as long as we play most of the time it is also most of the we always loss in the end. It is really totally wrong, because even we know were going to lose loney we still keep going to go for it. And sorry too for your 2BTC lost. Undecided
798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: April 03, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
hello guys,
is there any proven strategy to win at least $5 daily?
NO martingale rule please.
There's no assurance that you can earn 5$ daily in gambling. Unless you are mr. lucky guy Grin
But in real actual life, I don't see yet that there is a player in gambling who get profit amounting 5$ daily.
But why don't you try dice games I think it is possible but not daily, still it will depend on you.
799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 03, 2017, 08:35:21 AM
You can learn how to play poker properly and make profits.

true but not easy.
you can't learn professional poker and become good at it overnight. it takes a lot of time and practice. and i say that time is best spent in a better way to learn a better and more useful talent so you can make some real money from it not just risk.

So true, not all gamblers are that genius to make that kind of gambling activity a profitable one. As you say, you can learn poker overnight, but you can't be a progessional player that easy, unless you have a hidden skill or talent within you, that maybe can make your gambling activity profitable.
But even if you are a professional gambler, it still depends on your luck and everyone do experienced losing in a game.
genius doesn't mean they can make gambling profitable in the long run , as some genius have a bad attitude on how they handle their emotion . and tmes t emotion usually bring them into a greedy and of course makes you fail to get profit in gambling. it was really a tough mission for everyone who want make gambling as a real income.
Most gamblers are not genius in terms of managing their winning profit. Majority of them become greedy when they experience the
feelings of winning in the games and because of that things they became careless about their earnings so in the end instead of profitable it ended always of loses of money.
800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: April 03, 2017, 08:10:30 AM
In general term all traders worldwide knows that trading was a very profitable things. where you can make a money so easily. But needs some work hard and effort before you become a good and expert traders. But trading is not similar into gambling, because in gambling you will face most of the time to lose of money while in doing trade you will  experience most often how to make a bitcoin profit.
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