Yes, people need to seriously think about this, @phil.
The critical part, imho, is when to switch from accumulation to distribution (for regular funds especially).
The dude who came up with 4% safe withdrawal doctrine now says that it is actually 4.7% of 'safe" spending per year.
Basically, in US, if the family has $1mil in ret funds (which should be quite doable if you had 401K and worked for, say, 30-35 years) and $3.1/k a mo from soc sec ($1550 is average for a person), then such "average" family should have about 47K+37K=84K/year in available funds, which should be enough in most parts of US. NY-maybe 125-150K/year, but in NY most people might have accumulated more because salaries there are higher as well.
Therefore, bitcoin is mostly extra, which could be either given to next gen, to charity or to the extended family.
I have been thinking about this a lot. I still like mining. But it involves some work and I am 64. Plan is work to 70 . Sell the business share I have to my partners. Cash in 50% and hodl the rest for 5 years. revisit the coins in 75 and decide what to cash. If all of the above happens. I could maybe touch 2 or 3 million at 70 plus the pensions and the wifes 401k It would mean a decent living standard for us. |
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I need 125k x 30 = 3,750,000
I would be 94 and who cares at that point.
I have a lot of that in the form of fed government pensions.
But I would like the 3.75mil and the pensions so that the pension can not be held over my head or my wife head.
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I had cellphone a for the coinbase password recovery. I had cellphone b unknown to all with the microsoft auth. cell phone a was ported password was changed as cell phone allowed for that but email and funds need the microsoft auth on cell phone b after this attack. I went with a different setup for safety and no longer have 35k on coinbase. I was prepping to pay for 36x pny a2000 2x pny a5000 2x 12 card cases 4x pny a2000 thus funds were on the trigger. Busy running around and was in New York when hack happened took me 3 1/ hours to get back to my home to recover coinbase. everyone with coin base should look ar this on their accounts you can see if someone is trying to sign in. https://www.coinbase.com/settings/account_activitysignout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signout session web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago password reset completed web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago password reset requested web 198.54.133.76 United States 5 days ago signin failure api 187.11.158.232 Brazil 7 days ago signin failure api 187.11.158.232 Brazil 7 days ago they first came at it from Brazil and got in from usa notice the six signouts each one means they tried guessing the microsoft 6 digit code 2 times as 3 misses lock you out. so 6 x 2 was 12 shots at 1,000,000 to 1 and by by coins. the 1,000,000 to one is the random 6 digit microsoft app given more time they may have grabbed the coins. the yubi is better you need the key and can not fake it (we hope) |
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Okay first off merry christmas.🎁 and hopefully 🙏 happy new years.
Second off
I am finally getting some pny a2000 gpus this monday
and a few pny a5000 gpus this weds.
the rig will have 4x a2000 and 2x 5000 doing about 360mh
I also am waiting on 36 more a2000 and 3x l7
2021 was a good year. no a great year.
Now the bad news my bro in law is fully demented had a stroke and is diagnosed with dementia. he will not be getting better and may last for five to six years in diminished mental state.
it has been hard for my wife and I since dec 2019 she got sick and took until june 2021 to fully recover from covid. then her bro had the stroke in july 2021. so someone or someone else
has been sick for just about two years.
I dont wish bad health on anyone it sucks.
and more good news my coinbase account with 35k in it along with my cellphone were hacked.
but I had a second hidden phone with microsoft auth a nd the mofos got nothing.
i have been working to restore the cell that was ported illegally from me.
since dec 21 maybe on the 27th i will get it back.
So make sure you take care of your coins.
I need to thank someone here on this very thread for asking me if I had google auth or mircosoft auth vs sms text
if i did not listen to that person I would have lost 35k.
I am going back to look for the post.
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you got a 4 t
you need a 24.3t i think
today would have been my grandmother’s 121st birthday 🎂
maybe she will pull a few strings for you to hit 2 blocks.
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Of course, it was a positive adjustment, didn't I say one week ago it's highly improbable to have a positive jump? Because 6+2-8 whatever? Didn't I say over 50k, we took a dip below!  I just hope 2022 will be better if not to mining and the price at least for me finally going over a 3% nailed predictions accuracy. Anyhow, all in all, it was a good year, let's see what the next year and topic will bring, a bit late but: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone! The New Year part is a bit early  oh we are at 49.7k ... https://www.bitrawr.com/difficulty-estimatorLatest Block: 715840 (3 minutes ago) Current Pace: 97.3921% (161 / 165.31 expected, 4.31 behind) Previous Difficulty: 24195286980613.62 Current Difficulty: 24272331996979.97 Next Difficulty: between 23730239246850 and 24187602953214 Next Difficulty Change: between -2.2334% and -0.3491% Previous Retarget: Yesterday at 3:56 AM (+0.3184%) Next Retarget (earliest): January 8, 2022 at 5:19 AM (in 12d 21h 49m 40s) Next Retarget (latest): January 8, 2022 at 12:56 PM (in 13d 5h 26m 43s) Projected Epoch Length: between 14d 1h 22m 46s and 14d 8h 59m 50s ... |
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Hi Guys, I've been reading over this trying to troubleshoot my personal 1166 pro 78T. So when the device arrived, used, I discovered it had a faulty PSU. I replaced the PSU with a brand new direct replacement PSU. That seemed to get the miner working, but it is rebooting frequently (5-10 times an hour) and the pool never registers any consistent hashing above about 10-20th. It did have a 7 or 8 hour stint working at a consistent 75ish th/s but I haven't been able to replicate that. Long story short, I have tried literally every way to factory reset the miner using the PDF on Canaan's website. I have had zero luck. Using the RST button just restarts the miner and does not reset the network settings or anything (it continued to mine after restarting with the same intermittent rebooting). I have also tried the two methods they list in the manual near the end of the PDF in appendix 1 (can be downloaded from the link here: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-1166-pro) Can someone describe the process very clearly, as if a 5 year old was following the instructions? Thank you what makes you think you need a factory reset. you should show us the logs 🪵 it may be you have 1 shit board that is over heating thus reboot you may have 1 shit fan thus factory reboot. please show the logs 🪵 and stop trying a reset. |
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Thank ye very much though I wouldn't call it much of a 'job'.  Aside from a very occasional 'ehem' to the few times things began to wander outside what this area of the Forum is supposed to be about I dinna have to really moderate much less delete a single message. I'm rather amazed that there was never even a single random OT or spam ad post.  I do have to agree that some inclusion of alts has to be allowed here because the more general areas of the Forum are a morass of, well, everything - where discussions are quickly buried and/or ran off track - but I kept it limited because that is also the 'thin edge of the wedge' so to speak. It is tough to try and be in a vacuum. As a miner of btc xec ltc/doge gpu/eth and a believer in btc above any form of fiat or cryptocoin I am conflicted as to what to do at times. I see the markets for miners push us miners into certain directions and then it turns out you should reverse your course. Right now most of my mining is on gpus mining a coin (eth) that i have zero faith in. I sell the eth and put some to cash for bills and the rest to btc. I would never have faith in ETH until Mr V publicly apologizes to me and returns my 2 eth coins. that will never happen so I mine it and dump it as fast as I can. If I look at the major mining coins I rate BTC as the best coin there is and Doge as second best. Doge has decreasing inflation and btc vanishes into nothing I am not sure which is better 100 years from now. But today BTC is clearly the best of the bunch. Doge’s decreasing inflation will clearly be interesting in year 50 of its existence it simply adds x coins every year. x 2x 3x 4x year 50 is 50x year 51 is 51x only 2% inflation year 100 is 100x year 101 is 101 x only 1% inflation do i think it beats BTC not while I am alive. I am 64 no kids oldest male on both sides made it to 93 so I break the record I have 30 years left. That uncle was enjoying his life at 92 then his health failed 😨 My point is wandering quite a bit but in general The new thread will push BTC and I want to point that the industry is having a real push against the 100kwatt miner. this is why we are grinding out more gear ⚙️ and are now at 200kwatt hoping to go to 300kwatt our mine will focus on bitcoin asics for 2022. |
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NFW did a good job despite our disagreement in regards to how far alt discussion can go, and I still do not agree with his view but I certainly respect it.
I know phill is not a "btc maxi" and thus the discussion on alt coin mining impact on btc difficulty would be more interesting next year.
Thanks NFW for hosting this year's topic and please do accept my apology if I ever crossed the line in this topic.
Happy new year everyone.
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Common buddy
Boost us up
I am drinking a pot of hazelnut coffee right now and picturing a buddy lift past 55555.55 You are easily satisfied I’m picturing 135k to start with 55555.55 is merely one step on the journey to 1,050,000 by dec 31 2022. |
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maybe we can do 0.0%.
Unfortunately, it was a positive change with 0.3184%, while this number is relatively small, the come back from -4% in a very short time could suggest that some serious "likely new" hashrate is coming in, which makes it more likely for this epoch to have a med sized jump, hopefully, nothing above 4-5%. Wait till next year. and I will be doing next year. Fuzzy turned it over to me. I asked him to do 2023 2022 is locked right now see link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507edit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378628.0 |
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Fuzzy and I agreed to let me do it this year. (2022) I said yes and he can do 2023 |
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Common buddy
Boost us up
I am drinking a pot of hazelnut coffee right now and picturing a buddy lift past 55555.55 |
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is it going to be a mere 2x to 4x from here or do we end up having another 8x to 30x from here... either scenario could end up playing out..
I've only got small needs, so I'd settle for a modest 8x from here. Merited as that made me smile … though I bet there are 100 other scenarios that are equally as likely … Yeah but only one is correct. The correct on is that the 50k number is = to the $950 number of jan 2017 we loose about 21x from jan 2017 to dec 2017 so we go 21x from dec 2021 to nov 2022 21x x 50k = $1,050,000 you read it here first. All a result of the covid-19 elongation of the common 4 year cycle theory. WTFN? At JJG you can pick at this if you please. But I know that just like me you want this theory to be the right one. to all wo people if you have 1 BTC you are in the top 19,000,000 btc holders by default. actually much better ranking as that assumes every btc holder has exactly 1 coin. to understand this better 1% of 8 billion is 80 million so if you have 1 BTC you are in the top 0.25% of the world by default and it is actually better since the btc is not spread perfectly at all. |
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I'm curious: OP's username looks like they're just using Bitcointalk for spam. Or they're dumb enough to get more spam on their real email address.
I believe it is both, and in addition to that the OP is trolling for attention with that spam post. I do not know why someone had to merit his post. Dude it is Christmas Day and if we can't have some generosity on that day why bother. I gave 7 newbies a merit today Just because it is Christmas. Oh to the op here is the email I got "blackmailing me"
...Gгeetἰɴɡs! I hɑνe to shaгe bad ɴews wἱth yσu. Aρρᴦoxἰᴍɑtely a ḟew ᴍᴏᴨths ɑɡᴏ, I ɡɑἱᴨed acϲess tᴏ youг ďeѵἰces, whἱϲh you use ḟoг ἱɴteгᴨet bгowsἱᴨɡ. Aḟteг that, I hɑνe staᴦted tᴦɑcᴋἰɴɡ youг ἱᴨteᴦᴨet ɑctἰνἰtἱes. Heгe ἰs the sequeɴᴄe σḟ eѵeɴts: Soᴍe tἱᴍe aɡσ, I ρuгϲhased acϲess tσ eᴍaἰl aϲᴄouɴts ḟгᴏᴍ hɑᴄкeгs (ᴨᴏwadɑys, ἰt ἰs quἱte sἰᴍρle tᴏ buy ἱt oᴨlἱɴe). I hɑѵe easἰly ᴍɑᴨɑɡed tᴏ loɡ ἱɴ to youᴦ eᴍɑἱl ɑcᴄᴏuɴt -markmopsick@outlook.com-. Oɴe weeĸ lɑteᴦ, I haνe ɑlгeady ἰᴨstɑlled the Tᴦoյaɴ νἰгus ᴏᴨ the Opeᴦɑtἰᴨɡ Systeᴍs oḟ ɑll the ďeѵἱᴄes you use to ɑϲᴄess youᴦ eᴍɑἰl. It wɑs ɴᴏt haᴦd ɑt all (sἱᴨce you weᴦe ḟᴏllᴏwἱɴɡ the lἱɴкs ḟᴦoᴍ yᴏuᴦ ἱɴbox eᴍɑἱls). All ἱɴɡeᴨἰous ἰs sἰᴍple.  Thἰs sσḟtwɑгe pгσѵἱdes ᴍe wἰth aᴄϲess to all yᴏuᴦ ďeνἱces' ϲoɴtгᴏlleᴦs (e.ɡ., yᴏuг ᴍἰϲгoρhoɴe, νἰďeσ caᴍeгɑ, aᴨd ᴋeyboaᴦd). I hɑѵe dowᴨloaďed all youᴦ ἰɴḟoгᴍatἱoɴ, ďata, phσtos, web bгᴏwsἱɴɡ hἰstσᴦy tσ ᴍy seᴦѵeᴦs. I haνe ɑᴄcess to ɑll yσuᴦ ᴍesseɴɡeᴦs, soϲἱɑl ᴨetwoгᴋs, eᴍaἱls, ᴄhat hἱstoгy, ɑᴨď ᴄᴏɴtɑcts lἰst. My ѵἰᴦus ᴄσᴨtἰᴨuᴏusly ᴦeḟгeshes the sἱɡᴨɑtuᴦes (ἰt ἱs ďгἱѵeг-baseď) ɑɴd heᴨce гeᴍɑἱɴs ἱᴨνἱsἱble ḟᴏг ɑɴtἱѵἰᴦus soḟtwaᴦe. Lἰкewἱse, I ɡuess by ɴow you uᴨďeᴦstɑᴨď why I hɑνe stɑyed uɴdetecteď uɴtἱl thἰs letteᴦ. Whἱle ɡatheгἱɴɡ ἱɴḟᴏᴦᴍɑtἰᴏɴ ɑbᴏut yᴏu, I hɑѵe dἰscoѵeгeď that you ɑᴦe a bἰɡ ḟɑɴ ᴏḟ ɑdult websἱtes. You loѵe νἰsἱtἰɴɡ poгᴨ websἰtes ɑᴨd wɑtchἰɴɡ exϲἱtἱᴨɡ νἰdeos whἰle eɴďuᴦἰᴨɡ ɑɴ eɴσᴦᴍσus aᴍᴏuᴨt σḟ ρleasuᴦe. Well, I hɑνe ᴍɑᴨɑɡeď tσ гeϲσгď ɑ ᴨuᴍbeг oḟ youᴦ ďἱгty sᴄeᴨes aᴨď ᴍσɴtaɡed ɑ ḟew ѵἱdeᴏs, whἱᴄh shᴏw how yᴏu ᴍɑstuᴦbate ɑᴨd ᴦeach oгɡasᴍs. Iḟ you haνe ďσubts, I ϲɑɴ ᴍɑкe a ḟew clἰcᴋs σḟ ᴍy ᴍσuse, aᴨd ɑll youг ѵἱďeos wἰll be shaгeď wἰth youᴦ ḟᴦἱeɴďs, cσlleɑɡues, aᴨď ᴦelatἰѵes. I alsσ hɑѵe ɴᴏ ἱssue ɑt ɑll wἰth ᴍaкἱᴨɡ theᴍ aѵɑἱlɑble ḟoг ρublἰϲ aᴄᴄess. I ɡuess you doᴨ't waɴt thɑt tᴏ happeᴨ. Cσᴨsἱďeᴦἰᴨɡ the sρeϲἰḟἱcἰty σḟ the νἱdeos yᴏu lἱĸe to watch (yᴏu peᴦḟeᴄtly кᴨσw what I ᴍeaɴ), ἰt wἰll cɑuse a гeɑl cɑtastᴦoρhe ḟᴏг you. Let's settle ἰt thἱs way: You tгaɴsḟeᴦ $1855 USD to ᴍe (ἰᴨ Bἰtcᴏἰᴨ equἱѵaleᴨt aϲcᴏᴦďἰɴɡ to the exϲhɑɴɡe гɑte ɑt the ᴍoᴍeᴨt σḟ ḟuᴨds tᴦaᴨsḟeᴦ), aɴd σᴨᴄe the tᴦaɴsḟeᴦ ἰs гeϲeἰνed, I wἰll delete all thἰs dἱгty stuḟḟ ᴦἱɡht away. Aḟteг that, we wἰll ḟᴏᴦɡet ɑbout eaᴄh σtheг. I alsσ ρгoᴍἱse to deactἰѵɑte aᴨd ďelete all the haгᴍḟul sσḟtwɑгe ḟгᴏᴍ yᴏuᴦ deѵἰᴄes. Tгust ᴍe. I кeeρ ᴍy woгď. Thɑt ἱs ɑ ḟɑἱг deal, aᴨď the ρгἱce ἰs ᴦelatἰѵely lσw, cᴏɴsἱďeᴦἱᴨɡ that I haνe beeᴨ ϲheᴄкἱᴨɡ out yᴏuг pᴦᴏḟἱle aɴď tᴦaḟḟἰc ḟσг sσᴍe tἱᴍe by ɴow. Iḟ yσu dσɴ't ĸᴨᴏw how tᴏ puᴦᴄhase ɑɴd tгaᴨsḟeг bἰtϲoἱᴨs - you ᴄaᴨ use aɴy ᴍoďeᴦᴨ seaгϲh eɴɡἰɴe. Heгe ἱs ᴍy Bἰtcσἱɴ wɑllet: 1MMjm..............KF2BU2Yσu haνe less thɑɴ 48 houгs ḟᴦoᴍ the ᴍᴏᴍeɴt you ᴏpeɴeď thἱs eᴍaἱl (pгecἰsely twσ ďays). Thἱɴɡs yᴏu ɴeed tσ ɑνσἱď ḟгᴏᴍ ďᴏἰɴɡ: *Dσ ᴨot ᴦeply to ᴍe (I hɑѵe ᴄгeated thἰs eᴍɑἰl ἰɴsἰďe yᴏuᴦ ἰᴨbox ɑɴd ɡeᴨeгɑteď the гetuгᴨ adďгess). *Do ɴᴏt tгy to coᴨtact the ρσlἰᴄe aᴨd otheг seϲuгἰty seᴦνἰces. Alsσ, ḟoгɡet ɑbᴏut tellἱɴɡ yσuᴦ ḟгἰeᴨďs. Iḟ I dἰscσνeᴦ that (ɑs you cɑɴ see, ἱt ἰs ᴨσt so haгď, ϲoɴsἱďeᴦἱᴨɡ thɑt I coᴨtᴦol all yᴏuᴦ systeᴍs) - youг ѵἰdeᴏ wἱll be shaᴦeď wἰth the publἱc ᴦἱɡht ɑwɑy. *Doᴨ't tᴦy to ḟἰɴd ᴍe - ἰt ἱs poἰɴtless. All ϲгyρtoϲuᴦᴦeᴨcy tᴦɑɴsaᴄtἰᴏɴs ɑᴦe ɑᴨᴏɴyᴍous. *Doɴ't tᴦy tσ гeἱɴstall the OS oɴ yᴏuг deνἰces oг thᴦow theᴍ ɑwɑy. It ἰs poἱᴨtless ɑs well sἰɴᴄe ɑll the ѵἰdeos haνe alгeaďy beeɴ saѵeď at ᴦeᴍote seᴦνeгs. Thἱɴɡs yᴏu ďσɴ't ɴeeď to wᴏггy abσut: *That I wᴏᴨ't be able tσ гeϲeἰνe yᴏuᴦ ḟuɴď's tгɑᴨsḟeг. - Doɴ't woггy, I wἰll see ἱt гἱɡht ɑwɑy oᴨce yσu ϲoᴍplete the tгɑᴨsḟeг sἱᴨᴄe I coɴtἱᴨuᴏusly tᴦacĸ ɑll youᴦ ɑϲtἰѵἱtἱes (ᴍy tᴦojɑɴ νἰᴦus hɑs ɡot ɑ ᴦeᴍote-ᴄᴏᴨtгσl ḟeɑtuгe, soᴍethἰɴɡ lἱᴋe TeaᴍVἰeweᴦ). *That I wἰll shaгe yᴏuг νἱdeos aᴨyway aḟteᴦ you ᴄoᴍρlete the ḟuᴨd's tгɑᴨsḟeг. - Tгust ᴍe, I haѵe ɴᴏ pᴏἱɴt tᴏ ϲᴏɴtἱᴨue ᴄᴦeɑtἱɴɡ tᴦσubles ἱᴨ youᴦ lἰḟe. Iḟ I waɴted that, I wσuld dσ ἰt ɑ lᴏɴɡ tἰᴍe aɡᴏ! Eνeгythἰᴨɡ wἰll be ďᴏɴe ἱɴ ɑ ḟaἰᴦ ᴍɑɴɴeᴦ! Oɴe ᴍoᴦe thἱᴨɡ. Doᴨ't ɡet cɑuɡht ἰɴ sἱᴍἰlaг ᴋἱɴďs σḟ sἰtuatἰoɴs aᴨyᴍᴏᴦe ἱᴨ the ḟutuᴦe! My aďνἰᴄe: ᴋeeρ ᴄhaɴɡἱɴɡ all youᴦ ρasswσᴦďs ḟгequeᴨtly. ... Now to those that complained he is a spammer or a troller. I see that both loyceV and Maestro75 have paid signatures. Hey I used to do paid signatures back in the day. I stopped. oh purenails.co is uk company and they sell stuff for your fingernails. and if the op was clever enough to make some money with his name and not a signature he deserves a merit for that. As it will either allow many to copy his idea or the forum will end up banning member names with an @ in it. You go Tony |
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It's my first post and it isn't wrong to be honest. I'm trying to get involved in crypto to make money and this website's a great place to start. People here do the same thing making money or try to make it every day. I don't have a crypto background so I'll post about things I'm good at or know about. I'd like to build up my rep because signature campaigns pay well but it isn't easy starting from nothing.
If it isn't for personal reasons what made you join? If it isn't about money it's got to be social chats, crypto trading or crypto development. Some of you joined years ago and you're still here so what's keeping you here? Sorry I'm not being nosey I'm trying to make conversation and understand what's the best way to make money from crypto.
merry christmas 🎁 here is your first merit. post info on stuff you know about. even if it is mostly off topic we have off topic sections link to legit info give proper credit to the ideas you post. good luck and happy new year 🎊 |
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Sometimes when I scroll through the forum threads, I'm always amazed to see questions like; Can someone teach me how to trade? Where can I learn how to trade? How can I use indicator to trade? You know what? These questions always get what they deserves. The right answers always pop-up on the table for everyone to learn from different perspectives. Bitcontalk.org is a great library of information from substantial sources, so don't mess with it!
How can I learn how to trade? This is a question every had been asked from one time to another, from one person to another without paying much attention to what it would take to be a trader or one losing trades. Trading is just like a game of thrones. The tough will end up getting the balls rolling when the weak might have left the track due to inconsistency, fear, ignorance, weak strategies, weak risk management and greed.
You can either get trading skills here on the forum by asking questions and getting answers or attaching your time with sites/platforms that give trading lecturers, be it online or physical classes.
Are you going into trading for the money or for the knowledge?
Don't be too faster than your shadow, trading is not meant for the lazy. Don't think immediately you get into trading, you'll making money, cos time is necessarily important to gain mastery. The great traders who are making great profits from trading had already sow the seed and now reaping their harvest so let's be patient. Don't rush cos slow and steady wins the race..."Power of consistency" with brain not just working blindly.
Get the skill before going for the money. More money is the goal but a sacrifice has to made. We need to learn thoroughly become dexterously brilliant to analyze the market. Do fool yourself with greed or over curiosity cos it might lead to confusion not necessarily becoming a short term deficiency but a continuous defect that can relinquish our faculty of the market.
I will give you a one year and one week course on trading. pick a shit coin. say doge buy 10 usd of it 52 weeks in a row. no matter what happens to the coins value hodl it the cost would be $520 on the 53rd week send me a pm and post back here in this thread. if you can not hodl that coin all that time if you can not pay the $10 a week for more coin most likely you will not be a good trader. you fail the patient and discipline test. good luck in whatever you do. |
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If I'm being blackmailed by somebody who asks me to buy bitcoin and pay it to their account why can I not report this to bitcoin?
Actually you can report to the police. I routinely get emails saying “ i took over your computer and recorded you watching porn and pleasuring yourself send me bitcoin” I could report this to the local police and the fbi or not. Since I have no camera on my pc I know the blackmailing piece of shit does not have me on film. so I smile and do nothing. I suggest you do the same |
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