is there a possibility to be listed in a bigger market and more users or at least listed on yobit because that will increase the volume and many people will be interested in this project 3 exchanges which i have never been. there are some bad reviews i read on unnamed. and yes, yobit. even not so good reputation at least there are a lot of traders on that exchange. but for those 3, i doubt this coin will ever be alive in the next coming months. and how long can the dev team maintain their activity here? |
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--- Every aspect of this project yields itself to be a scam, from every written piece of content to how it's marketed and structured. I personally will not spend my time going point-by-point into every red-flag this project throws, despite the previous shill explaining what it means A scam in crypto does not necessarily have to have an ICO, IEO or have an initial backing. Scam coins exists in all shapes, forms and aspects, ERC-20 tokens by the factor of having any value or worth, can lead into a scam project. Documents, notarized docs can be forged, faked and manipulated if you have the proper contacts and resources available. By this thread even being on Bitcointalk also lends itself to target the average investor and user here, which is a coincidence when dealing with any significant amount of gold, which would be more attractive outside of the conventional crypto grounds. I led you and others into a bit of information here, the rest will be uncovered with time and with some diligent efforts. Coinciding with every premise this project is founded on, I'll restate 9.99~/10 "commodity backed project" have been scams. The sheer odds, combined with the above statements provided lead to a conclusion, that, this is a scam. If you want to buy gold, go buy gold on Forex or some commodity broker. If you're trying to own gold, through a shady fucking scheme, on Bitcointalk, through an ERC-20 token, you're better off playing a slot machine or burning your money for heating your home. FYI: If you didn't bump this thread to top position in ANNs, you would of gone unnoticed. This guy is probably running the show fyi or directly involved: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=360915, who's merited this thread and was the only merit he's ever sent in his life. Merits don't come out of nowhere or from "generous souls," who are not directly involved in the system of awarding or distributing merit to people on active basis. i do agree with tk808, better buy your gold in a known entity. most of these gold backed projects are scammers. lets hope this will not end up like maya scam 223 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136090.0theres a reason Tk is pretty sure of this projects illegitimacy
we really have seen so many of these same type projects, and they DO ALL end up scam.
It should tell us something:
This shit requires MASSIVE regulation, it WONT be done by just any group, it will be like a bank or a government or something
youve seen a lot here already. you know very well who's legit or not. i have bad feeling on this one... |
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There was that other dude, but i dont think it was a charity thing  the "win a lambo" guy haha. he did same thing as you, sold tickets, gave a lambo out this, this isn't for real is it? jesus man, just donate to a charity or something, using the make a wish foundation's name in shady shit is low :/ Make A Wish Foundation has good reputation and I don't think they have real partnership with them. they can be sued for using them in this soon to be blunder. yes, theres this one https://winalambo.net/ that you are talking about and theres one that exited already - lamboforbitcoin...remember that thread = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136090.0.... after getting few bucks, they posted on the site ' so long, thanks for all the fish' this one, lets see what final motto they will provide after grabbing some cash..... |
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Any updates or new reviews?
At the start OP was very active but lately no more updates. This and the previous topic were very helpful.
maybe try for yourself the mentioned websites and share your experience. and confirm if those pros and cons are true or not. sometimes the experience of every player to a given site is different from others. it depends also on how much you are spending on every site. if you are a high roller, the experience might be slightly different from others. also it is better to try new sites other than the OP's list. there are bunch of them already and they are quite competitive |
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If the token will be of great value, relevance and be of particular benefit to users, people will use it.
The most important thing is that tokens would be used for services on the platform but not for speculation. Tokens the value of which was based purely on speculation has long been devalued. People now need projects where the token is used in work and its value depends on it. Non-Bank lending should be a profitable business, but with its risks of course. I think this blockchain should work well in this sphere. In the normal area of non-Bank lending, the company has a risk of non-repayment of the loan. In the cryptosphere, high volatility of the cryptocurrency is added to this risk. I also wanted to ask. How will bank users guarantee loan repayments? Property or any other assets? I have already raised this question. As far as I understood, you will need to have collateral funds in order to take money on credit for them. If I didn’t mix anything up. I understand that this moment will be of no interest to anyone except us? Very strange... I think the team is too busy during this period of time, which cannot answer our questions. Be patient and be understanding) i have opposite opinion on this matter. there should be at least 1 representative from the team to address each and every query here or on any of their social media channels. this is the time to be aggressive and let know those potential clients that they care for them. otherwise i doubt they will ever go far with this attitude. how much more if they already collected the money and supposedly operational, can ordinary users reach out for possible technical support? or they will be waiting in vain? |
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We started the other projects in 2018. We didn't post a lot in these threads. In 2018, it was very difficult to get some exposure on Bitcointalk, since most of the threads were faked with 'purchased' comments. We will update every project on Bitcointalk tomorrow. These projects are all from the same company, Hodler Enterprises. The goal is to merge all these projects together in Voyager Park as a showcase. Most of them are already a reality. The Hodler Energy project has already been paying dividends for a while. You can view the payout reports at https://hodler.energyi check the website to see how much ROI will recieve annualy if i invested . i cant see it there even there is an option to click ROI. can you tell us how much is dividend for example i invested 500$ . Hi Lhaine, There is an ROI chart on the website with a slider that you can move from left to right. Check the following image for the ROI chart based on 500 euro investment: https://pasteboard.co/IArVFC1.pngthe roi chart is very attractive for investors but what will happen in reality is totally different! if you are a potential investor, you need to check their other businesses and assess on your own if this chart will have the chance to be real. dont jump on whatever they are offering to you. their roi is based on capacity utilization. ask yourself = will the park be constructed in the first place? how many clients are going to use their park? would it be a hit or a miss? ideas you need to ponder for yourself... Yes, please check our other businesses and projects. For the clients that are going to access our park, please read a little more on this page: http://www.highcoastinvest.com/investment/dolorem-totamIt will tell you a little more about the region where we are established. in all honesty, are your other businesses generating income? have seen several threads of your projects but seems that you are not really getting much attention from the forum. though we dont know whats really going on behind those doors. do you have big whales on board to sustain all those businesses? you need backup somehow to get all these on top of things... |
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novaexchange is closed, have new plan for copper ?
we were discussing copper it over in the lab
We know Shurm77 fairly well and even for crypto hes been gone a long time.
I tried to send him an email a few days again still no word. hopefully,
he just needed a break and all is well with him.
For those who still don't know the copper chain stopped for
a significant amount of time... I want to say it was weeks.
A member of the lab and a few community members we able to get
the chain going again. The POS in copper has been
corrected and it's fulfilled its POS only destiny as originally coded.
You need a 2.0 wallet to be on the corrected chain.
Id not give up on copper just yet there are plans in the works
to defragment the community and exchanges are being
considered for listings. the exchanges that copper coin were listed on are closing. first cryptopia and now nova. maybe try crex or any other medium exchange with good reputation. i hope people behind this coin will not stop their developments and try harder not to eat the dust in crypto! |
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Well, gambling is based on luck and voodoo has nothing to do with it. We are in modern times and that is something a belief or superstitious. You can't use black magic on gambling, Lol. Maybe there are still gambler's beliefs on that outside casino but online I don't think if that is work. Indeed, usually, these religious organizations were given more autonomy.
Come on man, voodoo does nothing to do with gambling. Even in a traditional gambling, these voodoo only gives the user self confidence but all in all it only comes down to luck. How much more in online gambling, I don't think it works in the way we think it would be in gambling.
what more can i add here? we are already in the digital age where superstitious beliefs like voodoo are proven not to affect this kind of business. gambling is based on luck so how will voodoo influence the results of the games? we are already over in this kind of ritual. yeah, it would be funny if someone will use it on online gambling though. lol so i dont think someone is using this on gambling anymore. |
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Though I have been reading through almost all the 4 pages of discussions over people suggesting various casinos which offer bitcoin as an interest, I would like you to point you to freebitco.in as they do offer interest for the coins you have invested in their site. They are very much trustworthy and they have been in gambling for quite a long time. If you have signed up and visit their "Earn BTC" menu, you could get the options for investment. They pay you a compound interest of around 0.0032BTC if you have invested 1BTC in their site. Instead of trying out with casino bankroll where the casino is able to lose, you could go for sites like freebitco.
Apart from this I can vouch for YoloDice and Cryptogames for their interest giving rates and the trust they have received from the gamblers over time. Though I have never gambled much nor have invested in these, I can vouch for these sites due to their trust.
that is a good suggestion - freebitco. ive been using their site but didnt check that aspect. and upon checking my account, i really do have some interest earned from what i have. though its not big amount, but if you let your extra satoshis stay and sleep there and forgot that you have satoshis, it will earn something. though it is not that much but you are sure that your satoshis are growing every single day at 4.08% annual interest rate |
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as i was checking further details for this project, i found out that you have no data yet in cmc =  it is better to have info on that site to give idea where mota can be traded at. though i know you can find it on your website but cmc is usually the first stop to get info of altcoins. |
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is this a noob-hype project? ive been reading all the one liner posts coming from noobs for the last few pages. is there a better way to promote this project rather than hiring all those bnew to noob accounts?
and ieo in deex? is that the best option for this project? how many merchants so far is on board to utilise your coin?
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For articash holders who're asking for coinmarketcap, please note that coinmarketcap require being listed on two exchange.
We'll apply for coinmarketcap listing after being traded on two different exchanges ( Supposed to be Crex24 + Tradingsatoshi )
do you mean tradesatoshi here? unless theres a new exchange named tradingsatoshi... We removed the following exchanges from our targeted list:-
coinexchange.io + crypto-bridge
CE closing down, CB requiring KYC so your traders might not favour that exchange. btw, what is your major objective for this project to accomplish before the end of this year? |
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The exchange lists mostly shitcoin with very low transaction volumes, which I think is the reason for their closure. Unexpectedly, in September they listed dozens of new coins.
Whatever the coins they were listing they still can't afford to continue their service this could be a lesson for the upcoming exchange why they should not list too many shit coins in their exchanges. Am I the only one have feeling this thread should be moved to service discussion? aside from shit coins they have long list of pump n dump coins so later on they accumulated a crap of worthless coins. but tbh, i commend the CE management for informing their clients beforehand and not disappear without any notification whatsoever. i still have few coins sitting on that exchange but what can i do? no buy order even at 1 sat. i guess ill just transfer it to my wallet for additional clutter in my computer....lol |
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One of our referrer referrer earned for 5 days ~30 USD.
but til now you only have few players on board. it is understandable as you have been here for more than a week in this forum. i am expecting to have more players on doge section but seems that raven table is getting more attention from the players. need to be aggressive in promotional side? |
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are you going to give the actual figures on how much you are currently collecting on your public sale? do you really think allegations on you have major impact on your sales?
and checking your roadmap, you have no items listed for the rest of this year after your sale?
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We started the other projects in 2018. We didn't post a lot in these threads. In 2018, it was very difficult to get some exposure on Bitcointalk, since most of the threads were faked with 'purchased' comments. We will update every project on Bitcointalk tomorrow. These projects are all from the same company, Hodler Enterprises. The goal is to merge all these projects together in Voyager Park as a showcase. Most of them are already a reality. The Hodler Energy project has already been paying dividends for a while. You can view the payout reports at https://hodler.energyi check the website to see how much ROI will recieve annualy if i invested . i cant see it there even there is an option to click ROI. can you tell us how much is dividend for example i invested 500$ . Hi Lhaine, There is an ROI chart on the website with a slider that you can move from left to right. Check the following image for the ROI chart based on 500 euro investment: https://pasteboard.co/IArVFC1.pngthe roi chart is very attractive for investors but what will happen in reality is totally different! if you are a potential investor, you need to check their other businesses and assess on your own if this chart will have the chance to be real. dont jump on whatever they are offering to you. their roi is based on capacity utilization. ask yourself = will the park be constructed in the first place? how many clients are going to use their park? would it be a hit or a miss? ideas you need to ponder for yourself... |
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I want to warn bounty hunters about bounty projects that pays bounty rewards to their platform or websites instead of ETH contract address, they mostly go against their words and you have no control over the tokens even if you have your login details..
Those who promoted Cryptomarketads(CMA) and Moozicore(MZG) knows what i'm talking about, i have decide to stop promoting such projects
Oh well, its pretty obvious that those kind of bounties are not to be trusted. They can just pull off an exit scam anytime and since you don't have control over it, then all your efforts are gone. At least you stop promoting them and learn from your mistakes. Don't waste your time on those kind of projects, actually bounty hunting today is very difficult because most project will either delay your payments and by the time you got it, it already worthless or the project is just scammy. ive posted on the CMA thread recently and ive seen how they are now in the market. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123256.msg52653778#msg52653778too bad for their hunters, i guess they will never get anything from it. people should learn their lesson already. about 99% of these projects who are paying tokens or coins for their bounties will never go anywhere! how many bounty programs do they need to experience to get out of this trap? i would be happy if no more users are participating to these crap programs and go back again to btc-paying bounty programs. |
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The CMA volume is still small in IDAX exchange what would happen if in September the hunters could throw away their tokens, while the CMA volume was very small.
Currently there is no need to think that there will be hard dump. Team is working on other listings, it very well mean increase volume and at least soften the bounty hunter blow. The trading volume at Idax is not enough for any investor to liquidate and this is really a huge problem at this project. I think if there is no improvement in price then CMA will easily be panic sell if bounty hunters are paid. Although there are new proposals at other exchanges, this does not really help CMA to improve prices. I personally will follow the latest news to be able to sell better prices when paid The team is negotiating with other exchanges, so there is hope for increasing prices and don't panic if the hunters will throw it away. If the bounty hunter was paid in full then many people would probably dump the coin. Their development team needs to have a new strategy to make this coin stable as soon as possible because so many people feel nervous. In fact, CMA does not have many investors but this coin has a lot of potential if this product develops in the future. I will wait for them to update the news and if it is news that affects the CMA price then I will consider buying As far as I know, the bounty hunter has been paid in full for this project and the value of the CMA is almost zero at Idax. There are currently no investors looking to buy a CMA because this coin cannot create liquidity for investors. I am quite worried about the future of this project because if they do not have specific plans in the near future, this coin will soon be forgotten. I don't want that to happen and hopefully soon see CMA at the top exchanges. and the current situation in IDAX === am wondering what bounty hunters would think about this? for sure it will be forgotten with trading performance like this? we know where this is heading --- in a trash bin??? over 50k users with 4 products? why no one is interested to buy this even at 1 sat? |
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some times somethings very simple in our minds is not as simple for others to do as we imagine.
if they fixed the referral system then that is a good thing but if it was simply a way and means to find out truth and understand if they were getting taken advantage of then it is understandable the time laps that happened!
either way it is a good thing that it is resolved but also a good thread to read for those that could have the same issue on this site or even others!
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why is this thread full of noobs that were registered a long time ago and suddenly woke up this month? i hope the team is not using some kind of shady services just to hype up this project? it is better to leave it to the community the way it is and let them judge their project.
and if i may suggest, just find those big whales that can afford to invest on this project because you need huge amount of money as you are holding series of IEOs aside from your private sale. how much do you really need to take off this project? i wish people will not regret buying your token!!!
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