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7921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I tried to tell him just HODL bitcoin, don't make this hard. on: March 31, 2021, 08:19:54 AM
Yeah, I just love those "friends" I meet on facebook.

And I love telling advice to random people on what to do with their money, because either they follow what I say and blame me for shit that eventually happens, or they do the complete opposite of what I say and I get to tell them "I told you so".

I think people should be allowed to let nature take its course. How else do we have a vibrant Bitcoin market? Wink
7922  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportbet.one presents🏆The Maharaja of Bitcointalk🏆$600 Prize Pool !Free Entry! on: March 31, 2021, 07:10:57 AM
#1: 13.25: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/bd3d4f07-3ace-43a3-b62d-e292bcd85bde

7923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +56211 units on: March 31, 2021, 06:48:21 AM
That did not go well yesterday, Slovenia and Russia both crashed out to supposedly inferior opponent, but no worries, we do like a pause in between big wins, heh heh. So let's go back to some more HT wins and hope our Hungarian and Scottish boys get some joy early on!

Another 100 units at Sportsbet with a 5-leg boosted insured bet: HT wins for Hungary+Scotland, plus wins for Communicaciones, S Melbourne and Oaklake Cannons @13.25. Other odds: 12.54

Units advantage: 71

Running advantage after 285 bets: +19,322 (+71)
All-time cumulative: +56,870
Running units after 284 bets (394W|240L): +9,339 (-100)
7924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: March 31, 2021, 05:32:22 AM
Guys don't forget to claim clubhouse rewards as they expire and disappear tomorrow!
Now that you mention the clubhouse I can't wait for the first monthly raffle that's scheduled next Monday.  Cheesy

Absolutely me too! In case anyone's wondering about this, it's just a random raffle to win loads of cash prizes with no strings attached. Just get into the Silver tiers and up and you are automatically entered into the monthly draw. Higher tiers, higher rewards (and more winning draws and I guess fewer people to be drawn into raffle with!).

GL, maybe one of us again gets the lovely btc;)
7925  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportbet.one presents🏆The Maharaja of Bitcointalk🏆$600 Prize Pool !Free Entry! on: March 30, 2021, 06:10:26 PM
#7 3.45. Bet ID: 60631f412fa86ad6c7219a83
#8. 3.05 Bet ID: 60630d2f2fa86a750e218d88
7926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: March 30, 2021, 02:46:59 PM
Guys don't forget to claim clubhouse rewards as they expire and disappear tomorrow!

Please I can't find it on my sportsbet app or do i need to update my app? I'm a lover of betbuilder contest please guard met through let me get on it.   Grin

Saw you in the chat (welcome) so I guess you found your way in;) Try and beat my Match of the Day Betbuilder at 13/1;)

Very interesting these 0.25mBtc bets.However I am curious are they all regarding sport bets or if we win this bet we can convert it to free spins to play in certain slots? In case is only about sport betting it would be nice to add an option to convert these free bets in free spins.

They're freebets, to be used on sports, like all the other freebets ever given out during the years SB's been around here. Suppose they won't mind giving slot spins but hey, this is Sports Club Talk Wink
7927  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Please steal my bitcoins on: March 30, 2021, 12:33:55 PM
The thing with all this is that you need to go through all this AND trust that:
- the letters and numbers are indeed real and the author hasn't also changed a few of them for trolling
- the author won't move the coins tomorrow or in the next hours, making all your effort a waste

Doing this for 100$  based on a post created by a newbie?
Who is going to be tying this will do it out of boredom rather than for the reward

Most valid comment I have seen in a while.

I don't knock people, and it's nice if it's $10 or $100, but you have no idea if this is a troll, so yeah, whoever's gonna do it won't be doing it for the reward, just for the pure sake of being bored. There's no bragging rights either as there's no puzzle to solve, no IQ to claim.

Good luck still, hope someone has fun.
7928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: March 30, 2021, 10:49:59 AM
Hoo wow morvillz, you da man really. Won MM 4 times, and 2 of it being the last two? That's 0.683 btc from 4 winnings, since the earlier rounds were 0.3 btc. Well bloody done, who says it doesn't pay to be careful with your picks (or not haha). I feel honoured to be rubbing shoulders with greats.

BTW guys. If you haven't already, Club Talk launched on Sportsbet -- bottom right corner, next to betslip. Drop in and say hello. There's a nice Betbuilder contest for Club Talk peeps for those asking about Betbuilder;) 1st game's Belgium-Belarus so plenty of time!
7929  Economy / Exchanges / Re: localbitcoins is still exisiting im surprised on: March 30, 2021, 08:24:07 AM
This is the thing people need to understand, localbitcoins in most cases is faster than anything and the older players in the game that used it for years have built trust relations you will never achieve with a platform

And features? What features do I need? I want to exchange my coins for fiat, that's what I want and I couldn't care one bit about margins, defi, investment or any other crap and I will always choose the one that has worked flawlessly for years.

Sometimes I think a lot of the people here have never truly delved into the Bitcoin economy. They've never used a wallet properly. Never actually bought or sold anything for Bitcoin. Just speculated and traded on CEXs.

That's why it doesn't make sense to them. And they've drank up the CEX or defi kool-aid about "easier cheaper faster 100%APY". So using actual p2p and interacting with other people, other Bitcoin traders? They can't imagine it.
7930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Give your opinion on crypto bookmakers on: March 30, 2021, 07:03:30 AM
As you can see for all outcomes odds are bigger on Stake, it means the juice is way smaller on Stake than on sportsbet, contrary to what you say.  Undecided
Sportsbet I notice has just more or less the same odds as Stake, I guess because the providers are the same,,, but you generally see Stake put it up a little bit more on an equal basis BUT Sportsbet has a lot more boosts so if you use that the odds become better. Parlays are also for sure bigger on Sportsbet because you can add more legs and get 10%++ boosts plus free insurance from 5 legs and above.

I believe they both, like many others, use Pinnacle as the odds provider. Where you bet and how you bet definitely affects which bookie you'd end up using.

As Saint-loup points out, Sportsbet juice is a bit higher than most others who use Pinnacle. What I can tell is, Nitrogen is on the extreme end (highest juice) and Stake and FortuneJack are on the lower end, with Sportsbet in the middle.

But as leea-1334 notes, the other bonuses at Sportsbet more than outweigh the juice:
- I'm almost always betting only with boosts
- the random super boosts daily are 20% or more
- you get 2% more PER leg of a 5+ accumulator. And since my style relies heavily on longshot bets and accas, Sportsbet squeezes out a lot of value for me.

For really longshot ML bets, nothing beats Fairlay though. It's p2p so no juice (except the small commission which is negligible once you wager enough).

For example, using the same market Azerbaijan vs Serbia that Saint-loup uses, the odds right now are:
8.8 at Sportsbet: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/wc-qualification-uefa/azerbaijan-serbia-605883daeb843ead81e3f4b9
9.0 at Stake: https://stake.com/sports/soccer/international/wc-qualification-uefa/41854145-azerbaijan-serbia
10.23 after commissions at Fairlay: https://fairlay.com/market/azerbaijan-vs-serbia/?referral=2130e697-c138-436a-a753-de8ca2436301

With a Boost, Sportbet odds become 9.34 (roughly 6.5% boosts). Taking an underdog at SuperBoost is really incredible value at Sportsbet =)

So on Fairlay, that's a whopping 14% difference... and the gap in value gets even bigger as the odds climb. Which is why I almost solely choose Fairlay for really big underdogs like this. I'd regularly get 25/1 if betting against City last season, whereas Pinnacle would give max 20/1.
7931  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportbet.one presents🏆The Maharaja of Bitcointalk🏆$600 Prize Pool !Free Entry! on: March 30, 2021, 05:46:16 AM
Thanks for updating the sheet @vennali I see I am a little closer to evening out now after last night's win haha. Here's to try catching up to the current leader with a huge 30% lead!

#1: 14.12: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/8e853842-1da9-4eb9-a6c2-f60813537ff5
#2: 5.17: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/4947771b-3a61-4648-b792-9e805e3f9c95
#3: 15.05: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/380373dd-f782-4253-a2cb-e9668227e9a6
#4: 4.75: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/7d7cfb51-532e-45c7-a66a-b617a3091d70
#5: 10.28: https://fairlay.com/market/azerbaijan-vs-serbia/?referral=2130e697-c138-436a-a753-de8ca2436301
#6: 10.82: https://fairlay.com/market/madagascar-vs-niger-12/?referral=2130e697-c138-436a-a753-de8ca2436301




7932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +56211 units on: March 30, 2021, 05:41:41 AM
Oh that was such a sweet win last night, especially since all our HT wins hit by 1-0 goals;) Blackjack special (21/1 on total cards, goals, corners in a selected match of the day) almost hit last night too, check it out if you're a Sportsbet player!

So we won last night without insurance, shall we do another small one, with insurance. WC and a mix of exotic lower league footie?
100 units at Sportsbet on Slovenia, Russia, MC Alger, Centenary Stormers, Solihull Moors @14.12. Other odds: 13.58

Units advantage: 54

Running advantage after 284 bets: +19,251 (+54)
All-time cumulative: +56,798
Running units after 283 bets (394W|239L): +9,439 (+1385)
7933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io "Soccer Blackjack" @ 21.00 odds on: March 30, 2021, 04:37:53 AM
@icopress don't worry about it man, I can totally understand the letdown, I thought it was a win too when I checked this morning and counted. Still, a push is nice, and as jeremypwr says, this time the gods ruled against us (and it's still a push, not money lost, we'll be back!). SB have went out of their way before to award bets they didn't need to (they paid out Biden way earlier than most books AND paid out City EPL winner outrights weeks ago, e.g.), this bet voided probably even automatically because of the general rule and I've seen plenty of voided bets that worked in my favour before (postponed matches usually).

Those are fair points too. Don't get me wrong - I'd love to see a win as well: (for 0.29BTC profit!)


I just wouldn't be surprised if normal soccer rules were the reason they stated for grading it as a void.

Phew. You've just inspired me to up my Blackjack wagers. I actually bet the highest on our first loss haha;)
7934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals fro June 11th 2021! on: March 29, 2021, 04:42:57 PM
-snip-
We can continue the conversation about UEFA World Cup Qualification here: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers
Most people didn't pay attention about the other topic tho so everyone continued to talk here Roll Eyes
If someone is continuing to post without reading this post and yours then we should question about his posting motivations (aka spam).
Yes but I think there would be less confusion if buwaytress could update the title because UEFA EURO 2021 doesn't exist (its right name is UEFA EURO 2020), moreover the current phase is not the qualification phase anymore, all the 24 teams have already been qualified, we are now just waiting the final tournament that will be held at the beginning of June (Friday 11).

There is no confusion... this thread title clearly says EURO so I don't know why the confusion =) However, you are right, I have renamed the Thread as EURO 2020 as the name had been retained (thanks).

Nevertheless, OP has been updated but here are the full fixtures also = https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/EURO/02/64/21/93/2642193_DOWNLOAD.pdf

I will now politely ask people to please post in the right thread.
7935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io "Blackjack Football Frenzy" @ 21.00 odds on: March 29, 2021, 04:01:27 PM
^Woo! Thanks for the bump AND the update. I actually bet on Segunda every now and then meself, and there, it can get a bit heavier than La Liga itself -- since they don't generally have the same propensity of tiki taka that league's gotten used to over the past 10 years.

P.S. If you are on Club Talk, there's a tab called Specials that'll update with every new special, including Blackjack! Keep an eye on it often;)

P.P.S. There is also a Super Boost on the same match;)
7936  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price predictions based on actual data / mathematics on: March 29, 2021, 01:20:50 PM
The USD will lose 30% to inflation due to the amount printed for covid.

This is very likely a low number. As it will compound over time.

I am 64.

Movies in a movie theatre sat matinee a double header 2 movies a few cartoons and a race clip if your ticket number's last digit matched the winner of the race you got a toy boys got models girls got dolls.  This went on in the 1960's I must have went to 35 or 40 matinees back then.

50 cents ! For this deal. now 1 movie with no race ,no cartoons  is 9 dollars for a matinee

 Gasoline 19 cents.  now  2.99 in New Jersey
 
New mustang car 2900. 10 Models to select from $27,155 - $72,900 from this website. https://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/models/

my point is natural inflation in 55 years did those numbers.

I'm a Gen X, literally the very last year of the understood Gen X timerange, straddling the time as analogue moved over to digital so I was actually lucky enough to still experience almost everything you'd mention (Southeast Asia so we maybe lagged behind for a while).

Dad took me to matinees, and I remember our tickets were 2 units of our currency but it would include roasted sunflower seeds or steamed chickpeas (whichever you preferred) so I watched Rambo and Die Hard with a full stomach. Then you'd go for a coffee and streetfood that cost the exact same amount. 2 units or 50 "cents" for the coffee and 1.50 for a bowl of noodles with mince and roast meat. I remember this very well.

Today, that same 2 units can't get even half a bowl of the same noodles. And the cheapest movie ticket now without frills is 15 units. You can get half price if you watch old releases. And countries neighbouring us have it much worse. Dollar was also 2.50 pegged for the longest time until the late 1990s... it's steadily grown to almost 4.50 now in the last 2 decades.

So not only are we putting up with inflation, the US dollar is being overvalued more and more every year.

And all that in 20-30 years. While min wage has only doubled since my parents first paycheque in 1970s to the 2000s.

Impossible for many people to see nothing but a dead end with national fiat.  People with privilege used to be able to open US dollar accounts at banks or even buy gold, but now it's Bitcoin that doesn't need privilege and access.
7937  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: March 29, 2021, 11:22:41 AM
Awesome update Steve and Sportsbet! Chat's looking good and can see the people starting to trickle in, looking forward to see all you BCT degens sharing and bragging about your wins over there;)

Just to let you guys know also, on Android mobile, after you place a bet, you can click Share Betslip and there's an option to take you directly to Club Talk to share the link to your betslip.
7938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price predictions based on actual data / mathematics on: March 29, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
Fun experiment and yeah I remember that one, which makes $10 million Bitcoin impossible to imagine in 2010. But we're seeing steady growth in total wealth every year, so $10 million then equals to about $20 million Bitcoin today -- still impossible but it makes the $1 million Bitcoin "projection" all the more "plausible with every passing decade.

Plus we're getting USD pumped into infinity so who knows?
7939  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportbet.one presents🏆The Maharaja of Bitcointalk🏆$600 Prize Pool !Free Entry! on: March 29, 2021, 07:47:05 AM
#1: 14.85: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/81111819-b0b3-4573-92dc-bd9a97e72d4e
#2: 3.58: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/bca790db-2e21-4def-8f28-e11bfbc90d38

7940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +56211 units on: March 29, 2021, 07:38:44 AM
What a crappy parlay that turned out to be, ha ha!

Let's go for halt time leads instead across friendlies and AFCON, sprinkled in with some exotic leagues in Americas and Africa. Because hey, odds are odds for favs;)

100 units at Sportsbet on HT wins from Egypt, Algeria, Ecuador, FC Hradec, Enyimba @14.85. Other odds: 13.98

Units advantage: 113

Running advantage after 283 bets: +19,197 (+113)
All-time cumulative: +56,744
Running units after 282 bets (393W|239L): +8,054 (-100)
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