Yet you said:


So how do you reconcile these two statements?  Does truth have a shelf-life for you?

In any case, it seems like a lot of members want to start going easier on plagiarists like yourself, so maybe one day some change will be implemented whereby you wouldn't get permabanned for an offense like yours (though I think that's the wrong direction for bitcointalk to be going in).  Until then, however, don't expect to be unbanned.

There IS a warning in the form of a specific rule about it, which I'm sure you didn't bother to read:


And obviously you've never visited Meta before, else you would have noticed that many permabanned members keep saying the same thing and the powers that be don't give a crap anymore.  There's an epidemic of plagiarism on bitcointalk, and it doesn't matter how long ago you did it.  In addition to that, you're now guilty of ban evasion since you're posting outside of a ban appeal thread in Meta.  You're exactly the kind of member this forum doesn't need--just a spammer with alt accounts and nothing significant to add, and you're here solely to earn money.  Bye-bye.

It would probably take someone until next Christmas to even try to summarize all of what CH has written in the past week.  There are so many inconsistencies and lies and outright rambling insane nonsense posts that I'm not sure such a task is even possible.  It would be like a doctor sitting with a schizophrenic for 8 hours listening to word-salad and then trying to write up a report of what the patient's point was.

What I'm doing, and what I'm suggesting others do, is to leave the patient in the room by himself and then lock him in there.  It's self-protection from a particularly infectious form of insanity.


And Merry Christmas to you as well, pugman!

First of all, I strongly disagree that the spamming problem bitcointalk has isn't related to signature campaigns.  I highly doubt we'd have people copy/pasting other people's shitposts if it weren't for the fact that there's money to be made by doing so.  I've never seen that being done on any other forum I've been a part of.  And I also doubt that there would be so many spammy, gargabe, nonsense replies being made in English by members who clearly have no command of the language if it weren't for signature campaigns.

But the problem isn't with the campaigns themselves; it's with the low-quality posters who get accepted into them.  There are indeed some senior members who are complete shitposters (Amph comes to mind), but the low-ranked ones outnumber them by a huge margin from what I can tell.  I don't know if there's any way to quantify my claim, but last I checked Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion had been overrun by mostly newbie spammers.  My point is that the problem doesn't come mainly from the Hero/Legendary accounts.

As far as OP's point, I'm not sure I agree with it or not but it's an interesting thing to think about.  People definitely become more excited and want to earn as much bitcoin as they can when the price is rising.  I think that may translate into more posts and more spamming being done during bull markets.  It's too bad it doesn't resolve when the price of bitcoin has been battered down to the grass, like it has been recently.  There have been as many shitposts as ever, and I'm sure the sections of the forum I have blocked haven't improved much.  My guess is that they're probably as bad as ever.

I don't see a scam happening here--what I see is two members who don't trust each other enough to send their money/item first and also aren't willing to use escrow.  OP, you might think escrow is too slow or expensive, but it's worth your peace of mind.  And hey, as it stands you didn't get this deal done and wasted time making a scam accusation thread that probably isn't going to result in any action taken against the accused.  That time could have been better spent finding an escrow, and the outcome would most likely have been better.

It's natural for people to not trust each other when crypto is involved and it's why there are escrow services available on bitcointalk.  If he stopped responding to you, OP, he probably just gave up on the deal and didn't want to waste any more time bickering/haggling.

I did read them all.  I don't do a lot of trading or buying/selling things with bitcoin and don't know anything about what bitify is, so my bad.  However, I stand by my opinion that him ceasing to contact you after all of those messages doesn't make him a scammer.  He might in fact be one, but there's not enough evidence IMO for any DT member to tag him.

Yes, it's certainly possible to improve your English over time, but when an old account goes from posting in really good English to (usually suddenly) the typical bounty spammer broken English, that's proof enough for me that the account has changed hands.  That's something that would not happen naturally outside of the member having suffered a brain injury or something.  

An application of Occam's Razor should tell you that when such a thing happens, the account is hacked or sold and I've tagged quite a few accounts because of good Engligh turning into bounty hunter spam English.  With this guy that OP is talking about, his English wasn't all that good to begin with, so I have doubts and am not going to tag him.  If any harder evidence comes along, I'll be happy to look at it again.

Oh come on, Jet Cash!  Don't get frustrated and give up so easily just because a few of your reports are either unhandled or marked bad.  How many posts have your reported in total, anyway, and what's your report percentage? 

This is me:  "You have reported 4049 posts with 99% accuracy (3561 good, 65 bad, 423 unhandled).".  Mods have obviously ignored (or just didn't act on) over 10% of my reports, and I've obviously had a lot of bad ones too, but I'm completely indifferent about those numbers.  The main thing for me is that when I report a post, it gives me the feeling that I've done something, and after that it's out of my hands.

Jet Cash, I've always suspected that you're a type A personality who likes to get things done and is fond of being in control of situations.  Am I in the ballpark?  I'm almost the exact opposite of that, so that makes it easier for me to accept any bad reports I make.  Please don't give up the fight, because I think your judgement on what constitutes a bad post is pretty good.  You just have to accept that the outcomes of your reporting aren't under your control and mods aren't always going to agree with you.  Keep up the reporting; the forum needs members like you who are trying their best to make it better.

Most of OP's posts seem to be him conducting business here.  I'm not fully confident that he's got the right intent to be a merit source, i.e., I wouldn't trust that he wouldn't use sMerits as incentives, gifts, payments, and the like.  That's not an accusation that I'm sure he would do those things, but since he left an extremely important piece of the merit source application out (examples of posts he would or has merited), I'm left scratching my head on this one.

He's not highly-trusted or highly-merited and isn't a high-ranked member of the forum, and those are things that would probably work against him in Theymos's eyes.  And OP, Theymos just added 36 more merit sources in September and nobody's sure if he's even looking at new applications.  It might be a while before he makes the decision to add more.

In the meantime, OP, go back and fill out the #2 part of what suchmoon quoted.  It doesn't matter what posts you've made that you think are good; it matters that your judgement is sound enough such that you'll give out merits to posts that deserve it, and that's why Theymos wants that list of posts in the application. 

That's exactly what I was thinking, but I haven't read the context of that thread and don't plan to.  If mr.pacy.mf was being referred to as a rich Serbian and was therefore talking about himself in that quote, then I'd definitely see the response as at least being aggressive and maybe going so far as to characterize it as a threat of bodily harm. 

But it just came off to me as just an internet dog barking--talking tough but no one's in real danger.  If mr.pacy.mf is not one of the rich Serbians, then it's not a threat at all.  That'd be like me (not affiliated with organized crime) saying "remember, the Mafia can find you and send Luca Brasi to fix your kneecaps".

It'd be nice to hear from mr.pacy.mf on this one.

I have to add one last thing about the bumping issue and what you said about prophecy.  One of the first things I noticed when I joined here was that people were continuing to post in and bump threads that clearly needed no more responses.  

Textbook case is in this thread from June 2015, where I started off posting on page 1 with an extremely lewd comment that I probably wouldn't make in 2018, but after that I noticed that the OP had abandoned the thread and kept pointing it out repeatedly until the thread finally fizzled out in April 2016.  In between my posts there, pleading with people to stop making suggestions about cupcakes and how they'd stay fresh in transit, blah blah blah, I reported the thread to the mods numerous times basically begging them to lock it.

And yeah, that thread is still not locked.  Nor is this one, but this is my last post in it.  Since OP is a relative noob, I hope he reads this and I hope other newbies do as well.

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Hydrogen, am I missing the source of that quote or what?  Where did it come from?

Anyway, I just learned more about stablecoins than I knew before, so this was an interesting article.  Since I'm not that familiar with them (but I understand the concept), I'm wondering why sending a Facebook coin would be more convenient than just using something like PayPal or a similar service.  I think even Indians working overseas can send funds back to India via PP friends & family for no charge.  The article doesn't exactly say that there's a problem that crypto in general is needed to solve, much less that an unproven, untested, not-yet-developed stablecoin is going to solve.  Are Indians finding it difficult to send money back home? 

I also understand the need for a currency to be stable in order for it to be viable, but I'm not seeing the general public crying out for an alternative to fiat--except in places like Venezuela, but the best solution there would be to use the Peso or USD as currency until the hyperinflation situation resolves.  There are still transaction fees with crypto, plus you have to go out of your way to acquire it...with cash, which, if you have it, means there isn't a problem in the first place.

Same here.  I don't use FB, WhatsApp, Twitter, Instagram, or any other social media service, specifically because of the privacy concerns.  And I agree that FB will find a way to exploit the users of its stablecoin if it ever gets off the ground.

No problem on my end about the double round.  You rock as the manager of the best campaign in existence and I too wish you safe and happy travels and a good holiday to you all my homies in the Chipmixer hood.  I will avoid using the word "gang" for reasons that some of you might be aware of. 

Wouldn't you think it would be prudent, then, for him to delegate some responsibilities to other members?  Yet he hasn't.  In fact, right around the time he put the very weak 1-merit requirement for Newbies in effect, he had time to ponder and make a thread about whether bitcointalk should have a Youtube channel.  I don't think it's a problem of Theymos not having time.  It's something else, but I can't tell if it's indifference, indecisiveness, reluctance to make large reforms, a combination of these things, or another reason entirely.

Not every shitposter is from the low ranks, to be sure, but I've read many threads in Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and it seems pretty clear to me that the vast majority of them are low-ranked members.  That's become even more true since January when the merit system was introduced, since fewer of them are ranking up, lots of new accounts are being created (and not ranking up), and quite a few older accounts have been banned as evidenced by appeals threads in Meta. 

Even Theymos knows realizes this.  Why do you think he put that 1-merit requirement in place for Newbies to rank up to Jr. Members?  It's because people are flocking to bitcointalk as a place of employment, and most of them are incompetent at the "job", which is usually to write posts in English.  Most of the Hero and Legendaries I see posting can write pretty well.  A lot of the shitposting older accounts turn out to be bought, and I've caught and tagged quite a few of these.

So yeah, it might seem like discrimination to you, but to anyone viewing the situation even somewhat objectively it's pretty obvious that any restrictions ought to be aimed at lower-ranked members.  Campaign managers who only accept Sr. Members and above are doing the right thing for the forum. 

In any case, this is a private forum--it's not a country, a court of law, a government, and most importantly it's not a workplace.  No member of any rank should claim he's being discriminated against because of not being allowed to join a bounty or sig campaign or if restrictions aimed at certain ranks are put in place.  People who come here thinking bitcointalk is some kind of equal opportunity employer should be disabused of that notion as quickly as possible.

That's why I think the SMAS effort fell apart--not because Yahoo62278, Lutpin, and whoever else was involved didn't care about spam, but that they had to fill the slots one way or another at the behest of whoever was paying for them to do so.  On the other hand, now that there aren't as many signature campaigns around (paying in bitcoin), managers should be able to pick the cream of the crop.  There are now and always were way more applicants than there are slots, and presently that should mean that a new campaign run by someone like Yahoo62278 could be easily filled with quality posters.

I think it's the shitcoin/token-paying campaigns and their managers that are the problem, because it's pretty clear that most of them couldn't care less about post quality.  I just wrote this less than a day ago:

The solution has to come from Theymos in the form of restrictions on campaign managers and who they can allow to participate (or a similar solution).  And I've said it a million times, there isn't much any of us can do but report shitposts when we see them.

That happens almost exclusively in campaigns that don't pay in bitcoin these days as far as I know, although I have seen a couple new bitcoin-paying campaigns recently and don't know who the managers are.

Yep ("winning" in the Charlie Sheen sense), that's why I've made this a vow.  Ingnore and no response.  That idiot can attack me all he wants, but it's come to the point where there's nothing is gained for anyone except him in the form of troll food.  I don't see any reason to defend myself against attacks that aren't even coherent anymore.  

Hell, he challenged me to list my accomplishments on bitcointalk and then when I did--against my better judgement--he used them to attack me.  There's no reply anyone can make that is ever going to satisfy him.  I'm actually fairly certain he'll start attacking his own sock puppets soon; that's how far his insanity has progressed--but since I've vowed to keep him on ignore with no peeking at his posts and no responses, I won't know if he winds up that far gone.  

I'm moving on from any involvement with this guy, as I feel like I need a strong shower after even visiting the same threads he's posted in.  His delusions-of-grandeur/persecution complex/schizowheebeejeebies might be contagious, like a case of brain scabies or something.  Don't want to go near him without a hazmat suit on, and I'm afraid his tinfoil hat might even be able to penetrate one of those.  This is why I'm recommending everyone, not just the people he thinks are in "the gang", to follow my lead on this one.  That ignore button is the most potent troll spray I know of and the more people who use it on him, the better off we'll all be.

I have multiple entire sections on ignore, not to mention my extensive individual member ignore list, so I'd say the problem is still pretty bad.

When the merit system was rolled out in January, it definitely seemed like a lot of people were trying to improve their post quality, but since then it seems like the shitposting problem has returned (it never disappeared, but maybe it was taking a piss break for a bit).  There definitely need to be some improvements to the system, and I'm pretty sure that if Jr. Members with 1 merit continue to be allowed to join signature campaigns, nothing's going to really improve.

For a while, there were some campaigns that had merit requirements to join, but that faded out.  There used to be SMAS, but that also fizzled. 

OP, I feel like I'm writing stuff that's been written 100 times this year.  All of this keeps getting discussed, and I worry about Theymos's shoes, socks, and toes because of all his foot-dragging.  Maybe he can use the copper membership fees that shitposters pay to get around the 1-merit requirement to see a podiatrist regularly and buy some heavy duty work boots.  I suppose if he winds up facing a twenty-toe amputation he might consider putting into place some of the solid suggestions that a lot of members have been discussing, but unfortunately I don't have much faith that it'll take anything less than that.

That's fair enough.  I'm not trying to start up a lynching posse here or anything--it's just a suggestion and the only good solution to what's become a serious trolling situation that's getting worse.  I can't even recall if CH initially had any valid points, because I don't recall when this whole drama started exactly, but it's come to the point where I cannot view his posts as anything but trolling.  The only way to get rid of a troll is to starve him to death.

I'm guilty of that as well, but in this case I'm vowing to neither peek nor respond.

Cryptohunter has been trolling the forum extensively as of late, and there is no reasoning or rebuttal that will get through to him.  He is spreading lies and espousing a conspiracy about a "gang" that exists in his own fantasy world. 

I am therefore vowing to cease replying to any of his posts and put him back on ignore permanently, because I refuse to feed a troll who is so obviously vicious, disturbed, and hungry for attention.  This thread is for members who would like to take the same vow.  I would encourage you to do so, because that's pretty much the only way to get the trolling to stop.

If you want to take the same vow, just write your response here--that's the sole purpose of this thread and is not one for cryptohunter or his sad little alt account to post in.  Those posts will be deleted.

Remember when digaran did exactly that?  Whatever happened to him, anyway?

I feel the same way about Chipmixer, though it's not the 2nd one I've been in.  No way in hell I'm going to quit it just to satisfy (which it wouldn't anyway) a mentally ill, rambling, ranting, raving, foaming-at-the-mouth, all-caps-typing, libelous troll.

I'm speaking only for myself here, but I'm not part of any gang and I'm not going to quit Chipmixer because some insane troll has challenged me to do so.  Also, there's no gang except the paranoid schizophrenic voices in your head; the members you're challenging to quit their signature campaigns aren't spammers and no one would benefit from such an arrangement except the real spammers who would apply in droves for the open campaign slots.

Which is what I've been trying to do, but I'm finding it difficult because of all the mud being slung by cryptoscunter.  He's clearly delusional, has gone full-mixan at this point, and I know I'm trying to argue with a mentally-crippled person, and yet I keep replying to his posts.  The pigeon has indeed shit all over my beautiful chess board.