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81  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟 BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino 🌟| No Minimum Withdraw | Blockchain fairness on: December 17, 2018, 07:25:33 AM
are you sure you sent to correct address ?? i don't see it here

I'm an idiot. I didn't do any testing, and my script sent money it to itself (whoops, wrong variable...  Grin)  Well, at least the transaction demonstrates that it was easy to create a transaction such that it's hash was a winner.



no problems,happens with most of us, i got what you was trying to say, thanks for suggestion, someone could have brute the system thanks again !

kindly test site further and let me know if you need funds for testing !
82  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 17, 2018, 01:07:01 AM
i myself gave example of that address dude read above quoted post.
Sorry again, I forget that this is your address presented to public as bet because of a bug showing your transactions as bets placed by players.  Roll Eyes

What is your bankroll again before(if) I place bet and can you sing message which I have been waiting for several days?

1> thanks for taking time to understand, much better !



2> current bankroll is 10.004 btc for now, if you place bet and you didn't get paid, then please open scam accusation with your transaction ID, i am here to answer that.


QUOTE THIS IF YOU DIDN'T GET PAID !
83  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 16, 2018, 10:09:13 PM
all bets are real, but due to bug its including change address and inputs, as i quoted above.
And I posted on previous page lots of things.
ill rephase count the number of bet's,  its not reached 1000 yet
Sorry, not 1000, my mistake. How many bets are yours and how many bets are from real players?
this shows that you are just gere to increase the post count.
Yes, that is what I have been doing on this forum. Not reading anything and counting my posts.

In meantime:







Player under number (or address) https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3J5GdNpdTviQPgub8eAmnuk9okB2TjqiN4 has to wonder why they didn't receive funds.


They are sitting quietly in small and dark room waiting for their anonymously placed bet to get funded by automated exchange system. (post archived http://archive.is/Tfhj0)






1✓ all players got payout, some payouts ehere delayed 2-3 hour's but everyone got it.

[...]

3✓ faking bets ?  what that even mean ? this is Blockchain based game not some c class app that i can create fake bets, everything is based on Blockchain there is no database, so its impossible for me to display a value which is not present on Blockchain, every transaction on website has verify button, why don't you click that and see how things works.

I literally randomly picked and showed you 2 addresses which didn't receive payout and then you said they might be your addresses.  Roll Eyes So either:
1) not all players received payout
2) you are faking bets.

What is it?

Quote
reason is this forum is very slow way to communicate and lot of people are just trying to increase there post count. which leads to mods deleting there post and creating lot of confusion.

Post archived http://archive.is/co4i1

Now go and report it to moderator.

or that could be input transaction from exchange, wait for update API will filter out those transaction from list.
just wait till i integrate bitcoin core, so there would be no inputs from known sources.

here i am taking time to explain you, try to understand.

1> javascripts renders UI and data on your browser
2> Api doesn't work well with segwit address, all exchange deposits are hidden by default, but sometimes it displays on the betting page like the example below.





3> when an error occurs api doesn't filter out exchange input by default

the betting page is buggy due to this transaction, this is why you are seeing some extra bets, which was supposed to not to been shown [ JUST LIKE OUTPUT TRANSACTION ARE NOT SHOWN]
http://btc.com/bbb88e10465c88327f08ceddcb70aa442dce6998c05be0c5685fe2d8b9f25dd5

4> also don't forget that the data is cached for performance, so lots of transaction are getting repeated, once segwit data is loaded, the transaction with was suppose to hide is shown and random next transaction goes hidden.







i myself gave example of that address dude read above quoted post.
84  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: New gambling site BTCJUA.com is systematically lying about their operation on: December 16, 2018, 09:54:06 PM
its good that you too took time creating this thread,  now can you explain how can a old member abuse trust system ?

since you left a negative rep, and you called my project scam, i require proof that i took your money.

Payment Method:
Proof of Payment:




bookmarked...
http://archive.is/gxot6


-----------------FOLLOW THIS FORMAT PLEASE-----------------------------------------------
Scam Report Format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
85  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 16, 2018, 09:37:19 PM
I literally randomly picked and showed you 2 addresses which didn't receive payout and then you said they might be your addresses.  Roll Eyes So either:
1) not all players received payout
2) you are faking bets.

What is it?
my project is new, i can have me and my friends test the site for transaction fees analysis, none of your business !! there is no rule that i can't play on my site, how will i know about performance of website without making transaction myself ? if i want i can play game myself for testing purpose, since i m the owner i don't need to be paid.
Quoted for record and post archived http://archive.is/HgL9e

I'll rephrase:

Out of 1000 bets showed on your site, how many bets are "real" bets from players, not your "fwiends", you or for testing purposes?

ill rephase

count the number of bet's,  its not reached 1000 yet, this shows that you are just gere to increase the post count. you have no idea about website dude you even guessed the number wrong lol.

all bets are real, but due to bug its including change address and inputs, as i explained above.

there is not bet's placed by me, all the testing was done on old address. so unless you sign a message from a address i can't waste anymore time with you
86  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 16, 2018, 01:29:13 PM
1✓ all players got payout, some payouts ehere delayed 2-3 hour's but everyone got it.

[...]

3✓ faking bets ?  what that even mean ? this is Blockchain based game not some c class app that i can create fake bets, everything is based on Blockchain there is no database, so its impossible for me to display a value which is not present on Blockchain, every transaction on website has verify button, why don't you click that and see how things works.

I literally randomly picked and showed you 2 addresses which didn't receive payout and then you said they might be your addresses.  Roll Eyes So either:
1) not all players received payout
2) you are faking bets.

What is it?

Quote
reason is this forum is very slow way to communicate and lot of people are just trying to increase there post count. which leads to mods deleting there post and creating lot of confusion.

Post archived http://archive.is/co4i1

Now go and report it to moderator.

or that could be input transaction from exchange, wait for update API will filter out those transaction from list.
just wait till i integrate bitcoin core, so there would be no inputs from known sources.

here i am taking time to explain you, try to understand.

1> javascripts renders UI and data on your browser
2> Api doesn't work well with segwit address, all exchange deposits are hidden by default, but sometimes it displays on the betting page like the example below.




3> when an error occurs api doesn't filter out exchange input by default

the betting page is buggy due to this transaction, this is why you are seeing some extra bets, which was supposed to not to been shown [ JUST LIKE OUTPUT TRANSACTION ARE NOT SHOWN]
http://btc.com/bbb88e10465c88327f08ceddcb70aa442dce6998c05be0c5685fe2d8b9f25dd5

4> also don't forget that the data is cached for performance, so lots of transaction are getting repeated, once segwit data is loaded, the transaction with was suppose to hide is shown and random next transaction goes hidden.




I KNOW YOU Won't understand technical so PUT IT THIS WAY
1> my project is new, i can have me and my friends test the site for transaction fees analysis, none of your business !! there is no rule that i can't play on my site, how will i know about performance of website without making transaction myself ? if i want i can play game myself for testing purpose, since i m the owner i don't need to be paid.



SO CAN YOU BE REASONABLE FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE AND CONSIDER A BUG AS A BUG, NOT SOME FAKE BETS. YOU ARE SIMPLY SEEING ALL TRANSACTIONS DUE TO SOME GUY USED bc.... address for playing and my basic site didn't had a way to work with that.

i know this is happened and ever since i came to know, i stopped on promoting site and started working on a solution but you guys won't stop, also check updated rules of the thread before posting .



87  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 14, 2018, 02:17:03 AM
not to mention that i gave btc to users for testing, so that would result in

btcjua -> address of tester
address of tester -> btcjua

Where can we find user who tested this game using this address 1FwKFv4nBkFNUo5Lga3uTwEzxcnParzMcj, won and didn't receive funds?

Excuse me, but if I deposit from address A and win, reward should be sent back to address A. Not to address B or address C:



here you go your (0.001 + 0.002) already returned 14 hour ago by automatic system.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f3bab01bae3207925a9ed7c1f79a7d292b93666d87002f84f06079cef3b0ac83





What is this:



More testers?

https://btc.com/351unhQnjwmStBjTPSBd4irM9zMY8RBiNV
https://btc.com/3PM6DPKerEsTNh9a6PLZrpByWFExZ8qAUg
https://btc.com/385x1rmezTJXLXXQSZJjXfS5HFx1LzcLJd
https://btc.com/3Qqw5szcez3oQj694s2HQ9dyu4NLToqJvM
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3KqYyLqJnSJpA1SJRaDirKFQyUKrtNkPHe --> I don't see this address got payed

Quote
+ Don't forget btc works differently then ETH, btc uses change address , also lot of users play regularly so if they send
So if I deposit from my address where will I receive funds? To unknown address? Where?

yes you got it right, if you play from A then it get paid back to address A.




the address you see was funded was us, so it could be one of change address generated by our old engine which used change address and amount split techniques to minimize fees, also keep in mind that if someone wins biggers then current play address then withraw is pulled from bittrex exchange and that BTC is sent to winner. [ thus 3KqYyLqJnSJpA1SJRaDirKFQyUKrtNkPHe  belongs to exchange api that maintains the payout, not sure or it could be our change address, can't say for sure as we do not keep any data about our players part of anonymity]
 


88  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 13, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
THIS IS WHY BTCJUA IS ANONYMOUS, THERE ARE NO USERS JUST ADDRESS, NO COUNTRY BORDERS EVERYTHING IS OUT AND PROCEEDED.

not to mention that i gave btc to users for testing, so that would result in

btcjua -> address of tester
address of tester -> btcjua


+ Don't forget btc works differently then ETH, btc uses change address , also lot of users play regularly so if they send

1 btc -> btcjua 0.1 btc
         -> change address 0.9 btc

[ so they placed bet for 0.1btc ] and 0.9 btc went to there btc wallet, so the next time they gonna play the deposit will come from same change address.


this is why you see address, Can you sign message from a address and let me know from which address you need the help ? cause that lot of address and lot of ins and outs and i don't have track of everything since everything is open on blockchain.

Just Sign a message and i can take time to explain that transaction, no problems !

89  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 12, 2018, 04:26:06 PM
1> game auto refresh when users places the bets, as soon as a deposit is detected game refreshes and waits for deposit to confirm.

if you can find you bet is can be easily searched using block number or transaction hash of your bets


I think you should display all the last bets at once, because how it is now seems like there is a lot of bets exactly at the time we arrive on the website.
This gives a feeling like you are posting fake bets.

Best of luck with your website but yes, please provide proof of bankroll ASAP. Smiley

I do not know how they fake it or not, but everytime I generate new address to make some deposit there is always others that play and make a huge deposit like 0.5++ btc but when I tried to check the transaction, it has already been made past few days ago so what is the point of having it keeping pop out again

But he already signed message on the first place,so there will be no big problem anymore

lot of things updated, since your last visit, try it now !
there are no new address generated anymore, everything is perfectly streamlined and verifiable on blockchain itself.

there is now only 1 address and UI is improved too, and in few days the site will have its own bitcoin node.
90  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 10, 2018, 11:19:07 PM
Okay, got it. When you refresh the website, it scrolls the last 1000 bets made. Then it stops scrolling.
This is why it may seem as "faked volume".

The roll number is calculated with the block hash. Interesting game.

However there is really a need for more proof regarding your bankroll since you accept bets.


1> game auto refresh when users places the bets, as soon as a deposit is detected game refreshes and waits for deposit to confirm.

if you can find you bet is can be easily searched using block number or transaction hash of your bets

2> yes wanted to provide fairness on blockchain, also coming bets and on going bets gives fees to bitcoin miners.

3> well i am working on it, since for now i simply used bittrex api to do automatic withdraw to casino address, i am currently working on having this game on bitcoin core, as soon as its done everything will be streamlined !!


THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
91  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw 🏆 Block Chain Fairness on: December 10, 2018, 12:12:18 AM
Where is your bankroll?

Signed address from OP shows only 0.004 BTC. Can you sign message from address where your funds are to prove that you are solvent?

bankroll verification is coming soon
This was posted 3 hours ago, it is more than enough time to sign message. I see you are online so it won't be hard to sign message in next 10 minutes.

I won't accept "soon" as an answer as you allowed deposits.

right now its in my exchange wallet, i use exchange api for withdraw at the moment as i ditched running full node.
coming soon = next update. [ this is why i specially mentioned it ] i need to integrate full node that would take some time. i been working on this non stop till last 10 days. ill see how much faster i can psuh, but since mobile ui update took me 2-3 days, i guess you all have to wait.

Bankroll will be shown on website itself, after the update, then i will entertain your request meanwhile wait for the update.

if current bankroll is low, it will be refilled by system, as you can see in history i already paid payouts. if you feel unsecure about it please don't bet until, i post an update here


AND MY FAV LINE :
post your transaction hash, if you didn't get paid.  simple plain and smooth
92  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw | 4 BTC BONUS on: December 09, 2018, 08:59:36 PM
yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

some are having even less than that ,so 0.65 bitcoins is not something unusual for an upstart
but there are many questionable business decisions as well as the points I mentioned above ( transaction results spam as soon as you load the site)
that makes me not want to gamble here at all, maybe if only given free bonus to test Smiley
it is risky for the owner , yes if a player or many players get lucky, he could go bust in a matter of hours



sure leave me your bitcoin address below, and let me know how things go and what i should improve.

ok, here is my addy:  1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv
will send with minimal fee too, hope it won't take ages to confirm


sent, try it out

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv



tried it out:
https://btc.com/4a940301c215be2e9112a4feac321ddbee01874894b1b9b49532955e1de101d3
probably lost Smiley
no way to sort bets by date, no way to look into your past bets
the only way I was able to tell if I lost or not was Fairness verify tab: https://jsfiddle.net/m04dpva1/
all in all , thanks for the owner for a chance to test the site
not my kind of game, but maybe with some improvements, this site could find its audience


what went wrong, i think you loaded the page at the same moment i pushed an UI update to app, this is why you was not able to see your bet.

here you bet shows,
https://btc.com/4a940301c215be2e9112a4feac321ddbee01874894b1b9b49532955e1de101d3



93  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw | 4 BTC BONUS on: December 09, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

some are having even less than that ,so 0.65 bitcoins is not something unusual for an upstart
but there are many questionable business decisions as well as the points I mentioned above ( transaction results spam as soon as you load the site)
that makes me not want to gamble here at all, maybe if only given free bonus to test Smiley
it is risky for the owner , yes if a player or many players get lucky, he could go bust in a matter of hours



sure leave me your bitcoin address below, and let me know how things go and what i should improve.

ok, here is my addy:  1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv
will send with minimal fee too, hope it won't take ages to confirm


sent, try it out

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MeReGV5pwy2fHze19amwsnWYqomx8opQv

94  Other / Serious discussion / Re: 51% attack vulnerability could be more possible than ever, here's why. on: December 09, 2018, 01:45:09 AM
its just new pools who joins recently check there signatures, i forgot the page where i bookmarked them all
95  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 262 on: December 09, 2018, 12:25:24 AM

1@ 0.1
96  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw | 4 BTC BONUS on: December 08, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

yes that the current bankroll, but it will grown when i grow full security of the project.
i am thinking to grow bankroll, till now the largest bet on my site is 0.01 btc and regarding trust i do put out lots of payouts and no problems arise.

also don't think of BTCJUA as a gambling game, its more like a lottery.

Lottery = Gambling

Betting money to earn money, so i dont know why need to differentiate. Your bankroll is indeed small for a gambling site specially you are just starting up.
Being optimistic on bankroll growth isnt bad but it would really need some effort and really takes time depending on how you do perform into this market.

thanks for pointing out friend, i really loved how you explained, but bankroll is low due to the fact website is new and i am worried that someone may spam payout system and take my bitcocins, this is why i want to perfect the system before putting big BTC.
Risk of abuse or exploit would be there thats why having a gambling business would always matter on how good the security would be.Polish it before going live
and bankroll management is important.I understand that you are on a test phase but if you are confident enough i dont think you should really worry about exploits.


leave me your address, i send a dollar so you can test the site.
97  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw | 4 BTC BONUS on: December 08, 2018, 08:24:36 PM
yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

some are having even less than that ,so 0.65 bitcoins is not something unusual for an upstart
but there are many questionable business decisions as well as the points I mentioned above ( transaction results spam as soon as you load the site)
that makes me not want to gamble here at all, maybe if only given free bonus to test Smiley
it is risky for the owner , yes if a player or many players get lucky, he could go bust in a matter of hours



sure leave me your bitcoin address below, and let me know how things go and what i should improve.
98  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ BTCJUA.com - Simplest Casino | No Minimum Withdraw | 4 BTC BONUS on: December 08, 2018, 08:23:10 PM
yes as you can see this project is quite new and the risk with processing large automatic payment is, that just incase someone hacks or finds a flaw he can drain whole wallet.

Current Bankroll = 0.65 btc, if someone wins more then it then i get a notification and i check its validity and fund bankroll again.


i hope you understood what position i am having here, safety 1st

Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

You're actually creating a gambling site with not even 1 full btc in bankroll? xD

Well I hope everything will go right for you but... That's both incredibly risky and completely untrustworthy. I wouldn't put more than one or two mBTC on such site.

Good luck though

yes that the current bankroll, but it will grown when i grow full security of the project.
i am thinking to grow bankroll, till now the largest bet on my site is 0.01 btc and regarding trust i do put out lots of payouts and no problems arise.

also don't think of BTCJUA as a gambling game, its more like a lottery.

Lottery = Gambling

Betting money to earn money, so i dont know why need to differentiate. Your bankroll is indeed small for a gambling site specially you are just starting up.
Being optimistic on bankroll growth isnt bad but it would really need some effort and really takes time depending on how you do perform into this market.

thanks for pointing out friend, i really loved how you explained, but bankroll is low due to the fact website is new and i am worried that someone may spam payout system and take my bitcocins, this is why i want to perfect the system before putting big BTC.
99  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS on: December 08, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
......
8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over.
[ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no]
....


I didn't know that. That was the "ah ha " one for me. Thank you for that. I didn't know that they help so much. If they didn't have faith then they would be dumping as well.

don't forget big casino like primedice stake, all use bitcoin, did they ran ? no they implemented more and more cryptos to there space.  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
100  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TROUBLED, PANIC ? READ THIS on: December 08, 2018, 01:33:29 AM
to all panic sellers,

WHO AM I ?
1> HODLER
2> Guy who lost 80% + on alt coins [around 130 BTC ]
[ means not only btc price is going down, the amount of bitcoin i hold are going down too]
3> my mining farm is not able to cope even my daily expenses
[ yes i am mining and i will keep mining no matter what]

Facts :
1> btc is down, accept it.
2> btc is down for everyone, 10000s guys like you have there money in it, you are not alone
3> so you say that you are down 70% down on your investment, how can you be down if you not sell, you bough XXX btc, which is same amount now.
4> market is not stupid
for every guy selling = there is one guy buying

Understand this
if there is no trust in crypto world then market would simply go to zero if it fell even 10%, everyone would start selling if they don't believe, and no one will buy it.
5> this forum is being manipulated by fake panic creating posts, by newbies accounts.
6> BTC trading is banned in INDIA, CHINA and people are still investing. cause our governments are corrupt.
7> all small nations are already full into crypto, people simple don't trust centralized money distributions
8> binance, bittrex, bitfinex are largest bitcoin exchanges, they don't make money in $$$ dollars, they make profit in crypto, did they shut down there website ? no because its been used now more then over.
[ they own top 10 biggest balance bitcoin addresses, are they selling ? no]
9> everyday lots of applications and companies are implementing crypto, so forget the price, use case is exponentially growing
 

REMEMBER : MARKETING TIP if you ever wanted to exit a market leave when it goes 20%-30% down, and that time is long gone, so the best a& wise decision is to hodl and smile at these whales manipulation to buy bitcoin lower

Whats Best Now ?
1> open you exchange place sell order at 7X Amount you bought, and enjoy movies and games for a while.
2> Hold on before investing in ICO at the moment.
3> dump shit coins, that are not minable


COINS you should trust:

1> minable
2> not centralized

here is the full list, https://coinmarketcap.com/coins/views/filter-non-mineable/

dump rest of centerlized shit


I think you have lost it some where, but now you can't find it

First of all there is NO MINABLE coin now, as no mining is profitable, all mining is now > than cost of electricity, so you want to mine and lose money? More power to  you, this is an idiot game, a MINE doesn't mine GOLD unless there is a profit to be made.

So mining is no longer 'mining' now its just 'wasting electricity, and losing money'

Your other point 'centralization', what a joke, all MINERS are made by one company BITMAIN, and all mining hardware call's home through MAMA-BITMAIN, and uses their mining-pools, so what in the HELL do you mean when you talk 'centralization', everything has been centralized for years, there isn't any minable, non-centralized crypto on this planet.

what i meant was minable = decentralized depended on number of nodes

this is why i said dump the centralized shit, not dump the tokens, and pos


Example =>

waves = minable for me
ripple = shitcoin for me

got the example ?
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