We are also sick and tired of scammers!





Better come with collateral.

GO WOKE, GO BROKE!

The only guarantee accepted here is collateral. Your words are not guarantee.

Another day, another SCAM.

Unfortunately, trust from other websites/platforms doesn't matter here at all.

Without collateral, there are 0 chances for you to get a loan. The only thing that you will receive is negative thrust for breaking the rulles: newbie asking no collateral loan.

Please provide collateral or lock this thread.

Best of luck.

If you are serious, than sign a message and stop playing games. This is the only proof that matters.

If you are unable to do this, than you are just another scammer, nobody serious will contact you.

Even if your story is true (I highly doubt it though) you still need valid collateral to get a loan here.

You should read the sticky first, before making a loan request: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902, especially the part about Future income.

After reading adjust your loan request accordingly, or just close this thread if you can't meet the conditions. Right now, your request is following all the rules of a scam.

Then go and ask them - the customers that have worked with you before and trusted you with much larger sums of money.

Here you have 0 rep, so you won't get a loan without collateral. Why is it so hard for you to understand this?

Don't bother to explain. OP is deliberately ignoring legit questions. Mine also was ignored twice.

If the loan would be legit, OP would engage in discussion and answer questions to prove his credibility.

Based on his shady behaviour I think that OP is atempting an exit scam. I would advice everyone to stay away from this.

I know that this is not unique to this loan request and can be disregarded for non collateral microloans, but this is not the case here (3000 - 5000 EUR is not a microloan).

So again, OP can you please explain how would the lender recoup his loaned amount if this situation would be to occur?

@OP: In the event that you "get hit by a bus", how would the lender be able to recoup his loaned ammount?

If OP gives BTC for PP, I don't see any way that he can scam (assuming he sends first or escrow is used). In fact, he is the one that he can get scammed because BTC is non reversible but PP is.

@OP: be very carefully who you trade with, do your own research before engaging in any trades on the forum.

Tastatura poate imi cumpar, dar pe vecin il astept de 20 de ani sa termine cu bormasina asa ca nu imi mai fac sperante.

De ce te'ai oprit brusc la 2027?
Continua te rog ca nu imi merge tasta "doi" la tastatura sa pot face inmultirea in continuare si am ramas si fara cerneala la stilou... Am incercat chiar sa fac mintal, dar da vecinul cu bormasina si nu ma pot concentra...

But it seems that you are under the impression that people from this forum are handing out money for free...

If it is not clear for you by now, I'll give you a hint: No, they don't!

P.s. Enjoy your red trust.

No, I don't think such a site exists, because it would be bankrupted. No one would pay back.

But what I definitely know is that you are wasting your time here. No one will give you a single satoshi without collateral, regardless of your story - we have heard it all.

The reason why the lenders won't accept this kind of collateral (phones, cars, etc...) is the following:

Let's say that you give your car as collateral and get a loan in BTC. As you know, BTC is extremely volatile and it can have a spike in price in a matter of days or hours (it can double or triple it's fiat value in a week, not likely but it is possible). In this case, the lender wouldn't be able to sell your car fast enough and when he finally does, even if the fiat value that he received is 20% greater than the amount he lended you with (in fiat), he would be still at a loss in BTC. In this case, he can't do anything to recoup his loss.

On the other hand, if you provide altcoins as collateral, the lender can keep the collateral on an exchange with a sell order at 105%. If the collateral value start to fall regarding BTC, then you have the option to top up the collateral so you are in the range of 120%. If you don't top up the collateral and the value decrease any further, the coins will be sold at 105% and the lender would still be in profit.

I hope you understand now why accepting physical goods as collateral on BTC loans is extremely risky for the lenders. And one more thing, nobody wants to go trough the hassle of the paperwork involved in transferring the ownership of a car.

As an advice, as other suggested, your best option would be to go to a pawn shop with your goods, in case you don't want to sell them.

Good luck with your project.

Nu stiu ce incerci exact sa faci, dar in acest caz, dupa spusele tale, inseamna ca ramane varianta 1. Nu ai nici cea mai vaga idee cum functioneaza cryptografia.

Sper ca esti constient ca ceea ce propui tu ca ai putea sa faci a fost dezbatut de ani de zile si daca ar fi fost posibil ar disparea instantaneu toate cryptomonezile si pe langa ele, in mare parte, siguranta pe internet (protocolul https).

Sfatul meu este sa te documentezi inainte de a scrie prostii pe forum si sa incerci sa faci cu timpul tau ceva constructiv.

VOUCHER

Tot ce incearca sa prezinte OP sunt doar fantezii si exista doua variante:

1. Ori nu are nici cea mai vaga idee cum functioneaza cryptografia.
2. Incearca un scam.

In orice caz, nu trebuie luat in serios. Un fisier walled.dat parolat este inutil fara acea parola si singura varianta de a o afla este prin brute force.


Legat de "dovada" cu screenshoturile acelea, oricine poate sa copie acel fisier wallet.dat si atunci o sa ii apara in portofel exact aceleasi informatii. Problema este ca nu poate sa cheltuie/transfere acei bitcoini spre alta adresa fara parola.


Pentru o mai buna intelegere despre cum functioneaza encryptarea clientului bitcoin-qt, inainte de a va lasa pacaliti de povestile spuse de OP, puteti sa va documentati aici: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/6b8a5ab622e5c9386c872036646bf94da983b190/doc/README