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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 23, 2021, 08:08:45 PM
I don't have another account.  Maybe one from 2011 but I can't remember the username.  Who do you think I am?

I worked on alternative currencies from 2007-2009 with cryptoanarchist and a famous bitcoin person who owns a jet -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14775

In 2009, I went to Salt Lake City to visit a mine with cryptoanarchist and for the owner of Mulligan Mint (the Dallas RCO).  There I met a person who told me something related to gauge symmetries.

From Lex Fridman's podcast with Eric Weinstein, gauge symmetries and bitcoin 2/22/21-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifX_JnBfxTY&t=7411s

In March 2008, I responded to my mysterious Japanese friend's questions about what is the ideal money.  I explained standard philosophies, then I mentioned gauge symmetries. 

I just assumed by your writing that you are interested in Bitcoin for a longer time, than your date of registration on this forum might suggest. A big part of your posting is looking more like a self promotion, than a straight contribution to this CSW topic.
So you want to say, you believe that this
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mysterious Japanese friend
was probably Satoshi Nakamoto asking you for help?

82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 21, 2021, 04:28:20 PM
I have some experience in non-traditional intelligence networks and financial investigations.

I also joined Liberty Dollar and Freedom Force International in 1999.  I later worked with the Denver RCO and Dallas RCO.  The Denver RCO also joined Liberty Dollar when he was young and met G. Edward Griffin.

I was involved in alternative currencies for years before bitcoin and later in libertarian circles in Colorado.  I discussed bitcoin-like ideas in early 2008 with people affiliated with the Sovereign Individual (1997) book.

In 2005, I created a website called UnitedElite.net where I promoted 5 steps to practical globalization.  This site was published in a question I sent to Thomas PM Barnett's newsletter in May 2005, which is widely read by the Intelligence Community-

        
http://web.archive.org/web/20050528005454/http://unitedelite.net/globalization.html
The 5th step: "Evolve the banking system to a global currency with intrinsic value and with individual economic value in the respective country."  

In January 2008, I met an interesting Japanese man at an ice cream social I was hosting for a Ron Paul campaign event in Colorado.  His friend and him were very into the Sovereign Individual.  And his friend had an interesting and radical view of consciousness.  A few months later, the Japanese guy read a blog I wrote on global currency in 2007 and emailed me asking me for detailed answers on "what is money" and other interesting questions.

He is the one who got me thinking about the issuance of currencies.  He was skeptical of gold and instead said the global currency should be volatile to showcase the threats from collectivist forces.  He also basically predicted decentralized finance and individual currencies.  But he said it would be perhaps a few hundred years before individuals would be able to issue their own currencies.  To be clear, we never discussed cryptographic-based currencies.



Before I continue, please read Gün's great article below.

        
Logical Fallacies in the Hunt for Satoshi by Emin Gün Sirer 5/4/16

https://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/04/logical-fallacies-hunt-satoshi

The most likely scenario is that the BitCoin project emerged from a NSA/SAD project.  The purpose of the project has nothing to do with finance, banks, currencies or surveillance.  It has to do with gauge symmetries.

A potential reason for Joseph Vaughn Perline's statements and Gavin Andresen's endorsement is because they have been lied to by credible people with an ulterior motive.  Or they think they're aware of a 'secret program' involving bitcoin and the Intelligence Community.  But whatever information or program they think existed, is false.

As ridiculous as it sounds, the way Craig Wright talks is very much like a 'plausible denial intelligence asset'.  Or otherwise, a bombastic egotistical person who has a friend that works for an intelligence agency.  The intelligence agency can provoke the bombastic personality via other channels, and get them to misrepresent facts or disclose classified information, in a chaotic but completely independent way.

        
Craig Wright talking about NSA, intelligence and Ross Ulbricht  4/27/2019
https://streamable.com/9y4maa

Craig Wright: Mentions Ross Ulbricht then says: "Unless you have the conspiracy theory that the government and the banks are conspiring to make me Satoshi.  Never know, that will come next, it's a CIA plot, [more seriously] I mean there's maybe a SAD group, Special Activities Division, it's a SAD group, just one Satoshi yeah, haha"
https://streamable.com/642fnh

Craig Wright had no involvement in bitcoin or the Satoshi Nakamoto group.  Craig and David Kleiman's early knowledge of bitcoin was random luck-

        
https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1141305547158724608
So who is Satoshi Nakamoto?  Who wrote the whitepaper, the emails and the posts?

And if bitcoin is a project of the Special Activities Center (SAC/SAD), what's the reason?

Interesting read. Why didn't you use your original account to post this?
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 20, 2021, 10:05:21 AM
CSW might be smart enough to brabble some incoherent technical nonsense, but is he really intelligent enough to trick the (at that time) 2nd important developer of Bitcoin (Gavin Andresen) with a sleight like he did in London?

There is a possibility that either CSW or one of his associates were able to hack/take over Satoshi's email accounts and use the info to fool Gavin by referencing the messages the two exchanged in the past.

Not sure if CSW would write the message 'Michael, send me some coins before I hitman you.' to @Theymos if he wanted everybody to believe that Satoshi is back. More possible that CSW (or one of his associates) bought the access to Satoshis emails later.

No, that would clearly mean another change of ownership, so they could have bought it, hacked it, socially-engineered customer support or used other means to get ahold of the email account.

OTOH, wouldn't Satoshi periodically delete emails anyway if he was really privacy-conscious?

Maybe he did this until the time when he disappeared.
84  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 20, 2021, 09:00:35 AM
I guess you found it somewhere in the file jungle of this trial. Mind to direct link to the source file?

Yeah, shame on me for being lazy and not linking it.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.647.1.pdf   Items 319, 341.

Hopefully the communication between Wright and Andresen gets made public.

Kinda crazy that Wright is objecting to it on grounds of it being inauthentic, among other things.

What could be the content of this contract? Payment to Gavin for supporting the story or maybe the revelation of something that would compromise Gavin? Does somebody else know the content? What could happen if the contract was broken by one party?
Interesting ...
I would pay a good price for a proven and authentic copy of that communication. Not to do something with it, but only to know.
85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 20, 2021, 08:29:17 AM
CSW might be smart enough to brabble some incoherent technical nonsense, but is he really intelligent enough to trick the (at that time) 2nd important developer of Bitcoin (Gavin Andresen) with a sleight like he did in London?

There is a possibility that either CSW or one of his associates were able to hack/take over Satoshi's email accounts and use the info to fool Gavin by referencing the messages the two exchanged in the past.

Not sure if CSW would write the message 'Michael, send me some coins before I hitman you.' to @Theymos if he wanted everybody to believe that Satoshi is back. More possible that CSW (or one of his associates) bought the access to Satoshis emails later.




I've considered that-- esp since we know the account was compromised at one point, but if that happened you would have expected gavin to say that Wright knew about that stuff and AFAIK he never did.

One thing people don't know is that the idiots at the bitcoin foundation named 'satoshi' a board member (without his consent, obviously) and as a result copied the satoshi mailbox on all their board communication.  So perhaps there was an opportunity for a hacker to exploit that information without directly showing that they were aware of it----

At least three BCF board members were bamboozled by (or complicit with) wright, now this might be because BCF's composition was unusually rich in idiots and scoundrels but it could also be because after monitoring years of their presumed private communication wright knew exactly which buttons to press for each person and was able to hack their confidence by echoing their own opinions back to them.


Which mailbox are you talking about? You mean the gmx account? So you say at least one of the BCF board members had full access to Satoshis gmx mailbox, just by naming him a board member and he posted emails from this account on their internal board communication?


Thank you gmaxwell for providing the contract information. Reading what you and dkbit98 said about the relationship between the three wild cat I think it could be the plan between them (Gavin, Ver and Craig) just to play with the mind of crypto currency enthusiast maybe they will succeed. Besides, Ver once make a statement this year that "I cant believe some people still think BTC is Bitcoin"  so it loom like a group plan and the last time I check Gavin is the only one I know that could have the knowledge to be yhe brain of Craig.


I would think that Gavin is much smarter. I assume, he knows that claiming random addresses could be a problem and I assume he knows how signing a message with a Bitcoin private key works. If he was the brain behind this plot, he would choose different 'attack vectors'
I would be amazed if Gavin was part of the gang from the start. He must've had strong reasons to risk his image and position in the Bitcoin world.
86  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 19, 2021, 08:56:42 PM
I guess you found it somewhere in the file jungle of this trial. Mind to direct link to the source file?

Yeah, shame on me for being lazy and not linking it.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.647.1.pdf   Items 319, 341.

Hopefully the communication between Wright and Andresen gets made public.

Kinda crazy that Wright is objecting to it on grounds of it being inauthentic, among other things.

Thanks! This S. Matthews guy is this one, right? https://www.taal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Stephen-Matthews-TAAL.jpg
At least there seems to be a decent group of people with the same agenda, which makes secret hiding difficult in long term. One day they'll tear each other to pieces and we will know more. Have a nice weekend everyone and don't forget to change your clothes.
87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 19, 2021, 06:39:22 PM
CSW might be smart enough to brabble some incoherent technical nonsense, but is he really intelligent enough to trick the (at that time) 2nd important developer of Bitcoin (Gavin Andresen) with a sleight like he did in London?

I don't believe that. Maybe there is somebody out there who did the planning and CSW was just the guy in the front?

Dunno why you'd assume it was hard.

Turns out Andresen had a contract with Wright-- it's one of the pieces of evidence in the florida trial, but Wright is trying to get it suppressed.   It will be interesting to find out what it says.

Thanks Greg, but you sure know why I'd assume it was hard to trick Gavin. We already had some discussions about this topic. I never read about that contract you are talking about and it is absolute news to me and also to many others interested in this topic. I guess you found it somewhere in the file jungle of this trial. Mind to direct link to the source file?
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OGs: guys, lets just sell now, let the idiots buy at 60k LMAO! on: March 19, 2021, 04:59:19 AM
I for one am selling my 26 bitcoins and laughing at the buyers to be honest


OP has made wrong statements in the past and he will continue to do so

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I don't trade with, nor do i hold any PMs.

*not the grannies, but the gold holders.

EDIT:
#hodlsleep in 3... 2... 1...

When bitcoin goes past $100k, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a little bit of some gold bars huh... Silver might be too much.
Bitcoin will never see over 12k ever again as it slides into irrelevance
89  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OGs: guys, lets just sell now, let the idiots buy at 60k LMAO! on: March 18, 2021, 07:32:34 PM
we won, but lets not make that same mistake as last time.
I for one am selling my 26 bitcoins and laughing at the buyers to be honest

Signed message of that address that holds 26BTC or GTFOH
90  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Longtime bitcoin holder starting to question the future on: March 15, 2021, 12:19:51 PM
I'd like to add that I can imagine almost any combination of characters and calculate a bitcoin address from it, which I can use to send my money to (NOT RECOMMENDED TO DO THIS, but still ...) Try this with gold!

Well, if one is rich enough and mad enough, he can ask for having built something like Voyager probes and launch it to the void  Wink
Or one can mix the gold with aqua regia and probably throw away the result (but I have enough knowledge on the matter).
The result would be pretty much the same  Grin

The method AND the result are not the same.

It took me a few seconds to generate a Bitcoin address with your posting.

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Well, if one is rich enough and mad enough, he can ask for having built something like Voyager probes and launch it to the void  Wink
Or one can mix the gold with aqua regia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia) and probably throw away the result (but I have enough knowledge on the matter).
The result would be pretty much the same

1GDKrFverko4oFPDA3NKP5piXxyA1wpB2M
5Kau4cNztUQJHKoL25hm3XLycgpCWe2QEfqTfzp9k3ZU9NP2vjb

It would take a few seconds to do a transaction to that address and about an hour to confirm. When I want my money back, I would need only your posting and some code from the internet to recreate my private key.
91  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Longtime bitcoin holder starting to question the future on: March 15, 2021, 08:36:20 AM
I just can't wrap my head around "the utility IS as a store of value", it does not make sense to me.

For the sake of analogy, just think on what banks do with gold.
Do they use it to manufacture good electric conductors? Do they manufacture jewelry? No, clearly no.
They simply store it as a "store of value" because it's known that gold doesn't change its properties and it's believed that gold is scarce.
If the banks would sell all the gold staying for no actual use, it may not be any longer such highly valuable.

Now Bitcoin. It clearly doesn't change its properties and it's known for sure it's scarce. So it already becomes something better than gold, exactly for store of value.
The fact it can be also used like a coin makes it even more suitable for the job.
What else it gives value? Its security. Unlike banks that have to pay for heavily guarded storage, you can hide billions on a piece of paper, knowing that the underlying math and the huge mining difficulty makes it a safe asset (as long as you know how to keep safe the information from "that piece of paper").

And same goes with Bitcoin as with gold. The price is high because of the demand. If there will no longer be demand, if whales sell, the price can also fall.
The "digital gold" choice of words is pretty well chosen and tells a lot.

I'd like to add that I can imagine almost any combination of characters and calculate a bitcoin address from it, which I can use to send my money to (NOT RECOMMENDED TO DO THIS, but still ...) Try this with gold!
92  Economy / Services / Re: [Hacked] Funds stolen [Reward] on: March 15, 2021, 06:22:23 AM
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reverse engineering to your pc
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maybe we can get access to hacker server and steal all he have
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since i am security expert i can easily find how your funds gone

Sounds legit
93  Economy / Services / Re: [Hacked] Funds stolen [Reward] on: March 14, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
do you have a telegram ID? Message me, I might be able to track who holds your funds now. Cannot guarantee anything yet though.

Do it here for everybody to see, otherwise you will look like a scammer.
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin back to $ 10,000? on: March 14, 2021, 10:40:46 AM
Here is ATL each year from 2012-2020

Year   Price
2012    $4.00
2013    $65.00
2014    $200.00
2015    $185.00
2016    $365.00
2017    $780.00
2018    $3,200.00
2019    $3,400.00
2020    $3,780.00
2021   Huh

I have two predictions...

2021    $7,786.00        <----- average of ATL  since 2014


2021    $14,477.40      <----- average of ATL since 2012






You stole that prediction out of my brain! How did you do that?
95  Economy / Services / Re: [Hacked] Funds gestohlen/Funds stolen [Reward] on: March 14, 2021, 09:39:14 AM
Reversing that transaction is not possible, but you should ask yourself the following: How it got stolen from my wallet? What OS am I using? How the attacker could access my OS? Did I have a password to encrypt my wallet. How the attacker could have access to my encryption password/PIN? Does my OS have a firewall/antivirus, that could have logged the attack? Somebody in RL who could have access to my PC/Phone/Ledger/etc and/or guess my password? Was the computer running during the attack? Was it connected to the internet?

96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have concluded that all governments together can't stop bitcoin on: March 13, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Death penalty world wide for Bitcoin using might help, but will that likely be happening?

I guess things will turn out kind of what happened to the internet: People (incl. politicians, policemen, millionaires etc) watch porn and download some music/vids/apps for free. Then somebody who didn't use/understand the internet calls the internet 'dangerous', 'only for criminals' and wants to protect the children by closing it down. Porn guys go 'WTF' and 'The internet is great! You can't close it down!!!' In the end everybody watches porn and instead of downloading music for free they go to a music portal and pay for it.
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's your exit price(s) on this bull run? on: March 11, 2021, 07:52:36 PM
98  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: With a clogged network, users will start abandoning BTC for alts. Change my mind on: March 11, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
As soon as many people abandon Bitcoin there will be less tx and the miner fee goes down.
Is that a good way Bitcoin could end up though? If Bitcoin cannot scale to sustain this much load and ends up with a huge exodus of users because of it, then it'll fail as the currency/asset we currently want it to be. Remember that the number of people using BTC around the world is still very, very low. Over the years, if the number grows, then it'll just be today's issue but only worse.

...

Everybody can choose the fee he wants to pay and miners can choose the fee they want to earn with a tx. So when you don't like high fees, than don't pay it. If nobody pays high fees, than the miner will accept more tx with a low fee.
99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: With a clogged network, users will start abandoning BTC for alts. Change my mind on: March 11, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
As soon as many people abandon Bitcoin there will be less tx and the miner fee goes down.
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Who is the brain of Craig S. Wright's crusade? on: March 10, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
CSW might be smart enough to brabble some incoherent technical nonsense, but is he really intelligent enough to trick the (at that time) 2nd important developer of Bitcoin (Gavin Andresen) with a sleight like he did in London?

I don't believe that. Maybe there is somebody out there who did the planning and CSW was just the guy in the front?

Who were CSWs early helpers? I remember there were some people (I will add their names later) who introduced CSW at a bitcoin meeting and the 'rumour' was spreading, that this guy was Satoshi Nakamoto, but is there more info on how they came up with the idea to invite him and who was supporting him from early on?


Some names and stories:

Michele Seven (BitcoinBelle)

https://hackernoon.com/bitcoin-belles-ccme-the-woman-who-brought-you-craig-satoshi-wright-strikes-again-f74e4ef129a4

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As one of the co-hosts on the show, she was introduced to Bitcoin by Gavin Andresen who had begun to promote Satoshi Nakamoto’s fledgling project to libertarian activists.


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Here is a very quick rundown (for those of you that did not have the pleasure of being around in 2015) of the “version of events” that most people seem to believe:

    Craig contacts Bitcoin Belle in early 2015. Convinces her that he is Satoshi. The two begin a relationship of sorts.
    Bitcoin Belle introduces Craig to a bunch of other influencers and uses her own credibility in the space to get him onto panels and conferences. People like John Matonis, Roger Ver and Gavin Andresen believe Craig is Satoshi and risk their reputations to support him.
    Craig drops Bitcoin Belle once he has enough contacts and introductions. The two stop speaking until Bitcoin Belle arranges a panel event later that year with a host of big names including Nick Szabo, who until that point had not made a public appearance in forever.
    Craig takes the bait, accepts a place on the panel but does not use the conference to announce himself as Satoshi. Bitcoin Belle does not press further with her questions (perhaps still believing he might be Satoshi) and Nick Szabo only has a limited tussle with Craig much to Bitcoin Belle’s chagrin.
    Craig Wright once he has seduced enough of the community eventually announces himself as Satoshi … but as mentioned earlier, the proof he provides is found to be not sufficient and as a result the community turns on him and Bitcoin Belle for facilitating his introduction.

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