Now this project looks very promising. I am sure that in a few months it will become one of the most popular. This already excites many already)
With BTC going higher and higher the folks that time their sells right are going to have a lots of sats to put somewhere. With another push of exposure after the fork we could be seeing some very nice gains. |
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what do ccr actually do?
has any success xfuel trade for another coin?
why did yankee lie he get 400 sat for xfuel, fake pump? how many fake things has xby or people involve say? no trust, but developer want trust?
have any dev show actual interest in help?
test net fake? nothing happen on it all happen is send fake token
how xfuel proof of technilogy? it not, any one can make coin from bitmox code and make instant transaction, no network clog mean transaction no get back up.
was spend money on promotion paid article better than pay dev?
why ccr always say people be rich just believe speak like ponzi?
what stage develop xby at? no proof of posign, no proof anything, no code review.
why first node still not earn anything at all
why first node no vote on anything like suppose to
why first node owner pay more, now xfuel exist first node owner get scammed pay full xby price not xby and xfuel?
I do not understand why this project causes so much distrust. Many people use this network and buy this coin. It is impossible to make a fake project on such a scale. I'm sorry that people are trying to slander really promising projects Many coins are now undervalued. And this coin should also cost much more. And those who do not believe in this coin tomorrow will regret this. The project is rapidly developing and the team works very well together Right now almost all alts are down so it is even more undervalued because of the fork. After mid november we should be getting new money coming in to invest. I think this latest drama had some effect but we are probably just seeing the overall movement of money into BTC. Its definitely worth more than pepecoin, which it has a lower marketcap then. So i expect a good rebound. Hopefully some new folks are getting to come in at this price will everyone else is moving to BTC. The potential growth is huge right now from 250 sats. |
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what do ccr actually do?
has any success xfuel trade for another coin?
why did yankee lie he get 400 sat for xfuel, fake pump? how many fake things has xby or people involve say? no trust, but developer want trust?
have any dev show actual interest in help?
test net fake? nothing happen on it all happen is send fake token
how xfuel proof of technilogy? it not, any one can make coin from bitmox code and make instant transaction, no network clog mean transaction no get back up.
was spend money on promotion paid article better than pay dev?
why ccr always say people be rich just believe speak like ponzi?
what stage develop xby at? no proof of posign, no proof anything, no code review.
why first node still not earn anything at all
why first node no vote on anything like suppose to
why first node owner pay more, now xfuel exist first node owner get scammed pay full xby price not xby and xfuel?
I do not understand why this project causes so much distrust. Many people use this network and buy this coin. It is impossible to make a fake project on such a scale. I'm sorry that people are trying to slander really promising projects Many coins are now undervalued. And this coin should also cost much more. And those who do not believe in this coin tomorrow will regret this. The project is rapidly developing and the team works very well together Right now almost all alts are down so it is even more undervalued because of the fork. After mid november we should be getting new money coming in to invest. I think this latest drama had some effect but we are probably just seeing the overall movement of money into BTC. |
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It seems to me that this project will reach its peak in 2019. I bought the coins and I hope. that in 2019 they will bring me a big profit. In 2018 this project will actively develop
Peak isn't the right word since it will probably increase in value as more dapps come to the network. Late 2018 could certainly be a reality. But that is only if we get the network up and running fully enough for development of dapps. As more people are drawn to the network as a platform the price of XBY should rise until we hit some stabilization point down the road. |
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I see, thank you. This is really a new and unusual approach in the crypto currency. I read the information you gave me In fact, only a few coins give complete anonymity. Even the biton will not give you complete anonymity. I think that the XTRABYTES network has many advantages without anonymity But when you think of a currency you want it fungible. and to be fungible it has to be private and anonymous. Do you think its possible for a token to establish itself as currency without fungibility? I find it hard to be achieved but maybe i´m not being able to see passed our current concept of currency. It´s been one of the biggest problems with BTC and yet it keeps thriving... I think that your reasoning is wrong here, you think because XBY is a coin that it should be able to give anonymity but it isn't meant to replace bitcoin or other altcoins that are only used to make payments and store value. XBY is a platform for dapps and the coin is the "blood"of the network, the main currency to pay with in the XBY ecology so it really doesn't need anonymity. Most people paying for apps in Playstore for example don't really care about being anonymous, the group that focus so much on anonymity is much smaller than the group that don't really care. Not only do most people not care about being anonymous but it's just asking for governments to get involved. XBY doesn't need to be an anon coin to provide value on the network. Their are plenty of options out there for at least semi-anon coins. |
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CCR should sit down and answer these legitimate questions instead of just ban everyone with a differing option. This is CRYPTO after all, we don’t ban people based on opinions like they do in real life.
Come on the above questions are not legitimate. My question was always does CCREV have the skills and aptitude to really turn what I still believe is a billion dollar project which is superior in spec at least to its peers like NEO, ETH and Stratis etc. I still have those doubts but in the end the project doesn't have in my opinion a hint of any scam and Dave isn't like some evil guy. So my hope is he just hires the right people to market and present this right. It's actually pretty simple, a good graphics guy, a good marketing guy, a few roles like that and then he just needs to let them do a good job. But don't mix what I and some were saying to the stuff above which is FUD to drag the price down. And also just cause you dont like CCREV doesn't mean the project is doomed and doesnt justify moaning forever in slack. This is crypto, projects have a long life ahead of them. Even CCCEV will work out in the end he needs to start listening to others if he wants this to grow. My thinking is CCREV need some support and he DOES need to start listening to people like Jhar and Sam etc but I fear it's too late for those relationship to recover. My problem has always been a simple cool project has been over complicated and then CCREV has floundered under his own complications. Borz does need some developing help but apart from that all these silly competitions and silly bounties are a mess. I look at projects like this and I just wish we friken pulled our head out of our asses and started making a coordinated clean and simple presentation of the project. Look at this for example. https://internxt.io/I personally blame other people in the community that throw complex ideas around and dont have the skills to back them up. Would of been better to just grab some funds and just get the right person to do a job from the start And that will take some leadership to direct that. I personally think the website is nothing to be proud of or the ANN and it wasn't just CCREV behind it. Lots of cooks spoiling the broth. IMO. I think you are spot on here especially the last paragraph. The real question is what will all these trolls do once we have another release. Will they finally move on or will they just come up with new garbage to keep the cycle going. My hope is that it will finally silence them. During these lull times they gain more tractions because the rest of us aren't talking about more important things. |
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It's unfortunate that all these trolls picked XBY to target and then to make personal issues with CCR. It really degraded our productive and project related communication process in the slack. I support restricting the slack to productive members if that is what it will take to get some work done on this. Go XBY team!
I agree with this. The slack gets bombarded with junk criticism and spamming because they thinks it's funny or they want to push the price down. If creating a layer of resistance stops or slows that down the whole community will be better off. Unfortunately there is nothing to do about it here on this public forum. The best way to deal with it here is to not let them bait you into negative talk. Respond to them in polite manner and keep the information about XBY coming. |
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People forget if the nodes come online the circulating supply falls through the floor. Combine that with demand for xby for nodes and daaps then as lomg as tech is delivered then I dont see this failing.
The fee structure is what will be important to keeping the breaking of nodes down to a minimum. Once we know the %'s for each level and what the requirements are we should have a good idea of what the turn over will be. |
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Im i the only one having problems with Slack?
Its offline on two devises!
Slack seems to be down. DDOS, maybe? Okay thx. Nice knowing its not a problem at my end. Should be back up now for everyone. Just logged in on my phone and computer to make sure it was working. |
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Can I get a slack invite? Account got disabled haven't been on in awhile.
https://xtrabytes-xby.herokuapp.com/ You should be able to follow that link and setup an account. Once your in slack a member will help you get into the channels you need to get into. |
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I wanted to repost Yankeeruinx's post about supply because I don't think it got as much attention as it should have because the the craziness of the past few days. It makes a strong argument for why we should see a price rise above what you would expect with a high supply coin. XFUEL was created to solve a problem, how to fund the development of XTRABYTES? See, XTRABYTES isn’t some corporate backed project with a $100 million budget for marketing and it doesn’t have a fancy ICO to raise funds. If it did, it would have $80 million set aside for marketing and development.
All XBY coins are in circulation so there isn’t some secret supply stashed away anywhere that the Development Team can sell off to raise capital. So something had to be done to solve this dilemma and that’s where XFUEL comes into play. However, XFUEL does much more than simply provide development funds as you will see below.
Before XFUEL, the STATIC node setup had LEVEL 1 (500,000 XBY) and LEVEL 2 (250,000 XBY) nodes as follows:
STATICS XBY Supply
LEVEL 1 512 256,000,000
LEVEL 2 1024 256,000,000
Total 1536 512,000,000
That would mean the XTRABYTES platform would run on 1,536 STATIC nodes and there would be 138 Million XBY left in circulation. This would not allow for affordable LEVEL 3 (125,000 XBY) nodes to be registered, as that would require a supply of 768,000,000 XBY, far more than the permanently fixed supply of 650,000,000 XBY available.
This is where XFUEL steps in, by fulfilling the STATIC network and making it even more decentralized. While node holders can still register their STATIC entirely with XBY, they can now use both XBY and XFUEL to accomplish the same goal.
By including XFUEL, one can register a STATIC node with a ratio of 67% XBY / 33% XFUEL. This is what the STATIC node network looks like now with the addition of XFUEL:
STATICS XBY Supply XFUEL SUPPLY
LEVEL 1 512 168,960,000 87,040,000
LEVEL 2 1024 174,080,000 81,920,000
LEVEL 3 2048 174,080,000 81,920,000
Total 3584 516,120,000 250,880,000
As all nodes are registered, around 134 Million XBY will remain in circulation to be used as a payment system for modules on the network. This system more than doubles the stability of the platform by adding 2,048 extra STATIC nodes.
XFUEL/XBY will be the first trading pair on the new XTRABYTES Decentralized Exchange (DEX) platform called the X-CHANGE. This is a double win because:
1. It allows people to buy XFUEL.
2. XFUEL/XBY showcases the X-CHANGE so people can witness proof of tech. This will allow the X-CHANGE to expand and add more pairings like you would expect from a traditional exchange but with full decentralization.
XFUEL is a brilliant solution to a complex problem. XFUEL provides a funding method for development and more than doubles platform stability. XFUEL also plays a roll in registering a STATIC node and node holders will earn XFUEL fees by securing the X-CHANGE. Since XFUEL doesn’t dilute the value of XBY value, as active XBY circulation decreases, it is literally a win for everyone who holds both XBY and XFUEL.
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ramsdaj28 here is a post from Yankeeruinx from the XBY ANN post that explains the total supply once all the statics are up and running. They total supply with change as some people break their nodes and others fill the empty spots. Most coins that get put in statics should stay in them once the network is going. XFUEL was created to solve a problem, how to fund the development of XTRABYTES? See, XTRABYTES isn’t some corporate backed project with a $100 million budget for marketing and it doesn’t have a fancy ICO to raise funds. If it did, it would have $80 million set aside for marketing and development.
All XBY coins are in circulation so there isn’t some secret supply stashed away anywhere that the Development Team can sell off to raise capital. So something had to be done to solve this dilemma and that’s where XFUEL comes into play. However, XFUEL does much more than simply provide development funds as you will see below.
Before XFUEL, the STATIC node setup had LEVEL 1 (500,000 XBY) and LEVEL 2 (250,000 XBY) nodes as follows:
STATICS XBY Supply
LEVEL 1 512 256,000,000
LEVEL 2 1024 256,000,000
Total 1536 512,000,000
That would mean the XTRABYTES platform would run on 1,536 STATIC nodes and there would be 138 Million XBY left in circulation. This would not allow for affordable LEVEL 3 (125,000 XBY) nodes to be registered, as that would require a supply of 768,000,000 XBY, far more than the permanently fixed supply of 650,000,000 XBY available.
This is where XFUEL steps in, by fulfilling the STATIC network and making it even more decentralized. While node holders can still register their STATIC entirely with XBY, they can now use both XBY and XFUEL to accomplish the same goal.
By including XFUEL, one can register a STATIC node with a ratio of 67% XBY / 33% XFUEL. This is what the STATIC node network looks like now with the addition of XFUEL:
STATICS XBY Supply XFUEL SUPPLY
LEVEL 1 512 168,960,000 87,040,000
LEVEL 2 1024 174,080,000 81,920,000
LEVEL 3 2048 174,080,000 81,920,000
Total 3584 516,120,000 250,880,000
As all nodes are registered, around 134 Million XBY will remain in circulation to be used as a payment system for modules on the network. This system more than doubles the stability of the platform by adding 2,048 extra STATIC nodes.
XFUEL/XBY will be the first trading pair on the new XTRABYTES Decentralized Exchange (DEX) platform called the X-CHANGE. This is a double win because:
1. It allows people to buy XFUEL.
2. XFUEL/XBY showcases the X-CHANGE so people can witness proof of tech. This will allow the X-CHANGE to expand and add more pairings like you would expect from a traditional exchange but with full decentralization.
XFUEL is a brilliant solution to a complex problem. XFUEL provides a funding method for development and more than doubles platform stability. XFUEL also plays a roll in registering a STATIC node and node holders will earn XFUEL fees by securing the X-CHANGE. Since XFUEL doesn’t dilute the value of XBY value, as active XBY circulation decreases, it is literally a win for everyone who holds both XBY and XFUEL.
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Damn, shame about Nova. I know it was only a minor exchange for XBY, but I think there are a lot of coins that relied on it.
For sure, you would think that another exchange will pick up their users and openness to coins. It was one of the new to trade XBY though so there wasn't much time to develop a market there it probably would have grown as fewer people went through yobit since cryptopia doesn't have all the coins that nova did. |
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This amiable atmosphere is far more appealing to believers, old and new. I hope it continues long the future along with XBY.
I think new exchanges will be a great way to garner a wider audience base. Once people see a high daily trading volume spread across multiple exchanges they will be far more enticed to look into and understand what XBY is and why it's so important. But until then we have to rely on hardcore believers which, while they are the core of any idea, they alone do not generate a high trading volume and so they alone cannot exhibit (at least effectively) the broad use cases of the project.
All the same I am a true believer in this project and I'm very excited for the future once this peace can be maintained.
If XBY was just a standard cut and past coin it would probably already be dead with all the chaos a few have chosen to partake in. But because it is attempting to do something new and exciting it seems to be much more resilient. The next few weeks are probably going to be hard for most alts because of the BTC fork. It will be interesting to see what happens to XBY afterwards. |
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Hmmmm...just to let you know, not every coin has something like this happening. The amount of tension in the community is a viable concern. Great projects with great tech can be severely hampered in its success due to an unstable community, whether that be "Fudders" who just want to buy cheap coins or a developer who people don't seem to like.
The truth is, both sides probably have truth in it. If for profit fudders are entrenched in the community and at the same time developers can't assuage their userbase, there really isn't going to be any substantial growth no matter how undervalued or how many tech releases come out.
That certainly could happen. From my other investment experience outside of crypto it just takes more in favor of the what ever it is then the FUDs. In crypto it seems the majority coins are just copies of other coins or vaporware. Then sentiment really matters. To many negative folks can drive it down. But if XBY is the game changing we hope it is then we should be on the road to success. |
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... once they see how badly its managed.
true, this is obviously worst part in here. And quite a lot of people does not have any self-reflection to see that. otherwise rest of the drama in here is completely out of reality and not nocessary at all. Idea and approach on this tech is unique, so let's wait for tech. It's been only few months now and every tech needs way more than that. If those bagholders cannot understand that, they are either stupid or dumb.  The next few weeks will probably be interesting. With the BTC fork coming early Nov most alts are going to bleed but once the fork happens people will be looking to reinvest. If we can get their attention we should see some really nice movement. |
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Who ever heard of closing a Novaexchange ? "Kindly note "Novaexchange" will have new owners and management effective April 2018, with major upgrades to the exchange to better handle scaling, stability and security. For better management and security of customer funds we have decided to close down Novaexchange so that the users can withdraw all their funds with no participation/responsibility of action of the new management." "Remaining user balances that has not been withdrawn before 2018-04-01 will be considered a donation and is not refundable." https://novaexchange.com/news/It will be nice once we get on a bigger exchange. There were a lot of comments on the reddit posts that said people were turned off by the fact XBY was on some questionable exchanges. Once we hit one of the more reputable exchanges a whole new group of investors will start buying in. That being said I haven't had any problems with cryptopia and it's unknown factor is the only thing keeping poeple away. |
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I had some communication with Borzalom today by PM, he asks that I help and support CCREV and not attack him.
I have decided that even though I'm just some internet noob my voice does influence some people. So I have decided to be more positive because the truth is I am positive about Xtrabytes, always have been and if they develop the project I always will be. A practical base for decentralised world is the future away from control of others and absolute security for individuals and companies information. Problem is because the community is so immature even legitimate concerns can't be processed so it becomes more than it is. Its all black and white to some people when really there is a lot of greys.
But the fact is Borz and Dave will be partners probably forever. But I think Borz understands that XBY is a project that will be bigger than him or Dave or anyone in the team or community. So yes I think CCREV does not have the level of skills to take us to the big levels but I do think he is ok guy I guess, honest and hardworking. Its actually no shame to not possess skills that only a few have to be a CEO of a huge company which is why CEOs are paid millions and also TECH CEOs are even harder to hire because its such a specific skills set. I'm not sure anyone involved in XBY past or present has those skills sets honestly even the best of the ex Board members.
But this is what I will be positive about. The tech is in my opinion potentially world changing, I wouldn't be here if I didn't think so. So I accept the situation is now knowing that the future is unknown and XBY will have a life far beyond DAVE and even BORZ. And that at the end of the day CCREVs main goal is to get the right people, he doesn't need to BE the right people....so maybe even harsh critics of CCREV can help him choose the right people to run various areas of XTRABYTES into the next stages. So I am back to being positive about the project....long term. I haven't sold one XBY in this last week, I guess if I wanted to make money from trading XBY I could of but I keep all my coins offline now.
*Also my wife told me to be more nicer online and not argue with people so really she is the real boss of me.
*And Biker....give it a rest, you only have one conversation and that is pump pump pump and that anyone who says different is fudding. You aren't helping the credibility of XBY with this aggressive cheerleading.
I'm glad you found some resolution. It seems to me that you can have far more influence if most of your communication looked like this versus some of the early posts. People like me will respond in a much more effective way and will actually consider the ideas that you are presenting. We will always need critics and different ideas as this coin moves along. I hope that the next time there is an issue you start with something like this. I'm sure there will be a much more reasonable response. And then there will always be those who say that anything negative or constructive criticism is FUDing, but thats their problem not yours. |
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Im out. I'm sure XBY tech will be great but it's going to take a lot of years and a lot of effort before we make any money from this. In the meantime money is better invested in other alt coins. I'll buy back in when it shows more potential.
If you are out, what makes you stay here. Exactly if u want guys leave why u still here ? I dont get it ... I just want to see how this ship sinks. I thought you sucked enough cock on Slack. Looking for some more here? Watch your language boy. U are so smart here because it is internet? Prefer to meet face to face and tell me same. If u want to watch u can do it on exchanges dont need to write over and over same shit and stay in slack channel still. It is same to you Fatoshi. Your language is this kind because u are on the internet. In real life u will not say same shit to my face. Try not to let them bait you biker. Your are a figure on the XBY team and how you respond sends meaning to the greater audience and holds more weight. If a personal slight happens take it to PM's. It's been a long day I am sure and we all have our limits. Don't take this as an offense I'm trying to keep the XBY team above dirt and grim of the FUD's. Just keep pushing forward and soon the price and the tech will prove itself. |
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I want to like this project, I really do, it seems like it has great potential. But as you said I'm also concerned about the xfuel coming out of nowhere. Also this drama that is going on for days. It puts me on the fence about the project and its future.
We are in early times. There is always going to be a risk getting involved in a project at this stage. There certainly is a bigger reward for those who get in now if when it succeeds. But just like any investment there is a risk. Infighting might effect the price now but as long as development continues the project will keep moving forward. |
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