Ebangs are out, we now know where the samsung 10nm chips went, 18ts at 5k usd per unit and shipping now. If the dragonminter is real, it just got outclassed and beaten to market.

This is what I'm doing too, mining, holding, paying the bills from my regular job. Everything is moving right now, it's a huge shakeup, and we just have to wait to see where it all lands. I continue to believe that this is all temporary and we will see things get back to normal in a couple weeks,  after the Chinese New Year on the 18th. However,  I'm prepared to mine at a loss for years if necessary. There will come a time eventually where it will all come back to me and more.

Everyone except us seems to be just pushing Sig campaigns
:-/

This. If I wasn't banging out zclassic for the hard fork I'd be grabbing a thousand graft because it's new and easy to get right now. I don't calculate my earnings at 6 cents per coin and say I made 60 dollars, because it's easy for it to go up to 12 cents, 15 cents, and then it's 120 bucks, or 135 bucks. And it's not like you have to wait very long, if selling for profit is your game. I'm a hoarder, but I watch the prices, I could have sold for triple mined value on 3 different coins so far this month, all under 15 cents. They're back down now, but so is everything.   

I think people are trying to get rich quick, like next week. Everybody needs to realize, 3 years, four years... that IS quick!

I only posted Kuala Lumpur as a joke, but if you want to roll the dice, let us know how that works out.

I did, I saved my wallet.dat file and deleted the rest, reinstalled, then replaced the new wallet.dat file with the old one, fixed.

c:/users/you/appdata/roaming/zclassic/wallet.dat

***** be careful with that file, don't lose it or mix them up. It has everything in it including your private key *****

I don't know if you read the entire thread, but I did order from them, and was refunded without requesting a refund. In addition they have changed payment processors at least three times that we know of, and the woman behind the ebay account is a bodybuilder and fitness book author with no technical or computer background. The opal kelly board displayed uses an xilnix fpga which is not technically capable of operating in the manner described. I leave it to others to draw thier own conclusions from these facts, but I personally believe it is a scam.

Intellogence was one of their websites. If you look at the card displayed at the kryptminer website, it's an Opal Kelley card and it has intellogence stenciled on one side of it.

Grab easy coins and hold. 1k etn, 1k music, then wait. It's easy for a coin to go up 5 cents,  at 1k coin that's 50 bucks. I'm hitting zclassic right now for the btc private hard fork but if I wasn't doing that I'd be grabbing a quick thousand graft. You know,  for later.

Typically deceptive media is reporting that tether is a scam because all they do is swap tether for btc and then back. But that's what tether does, that's what it's for.
Whenever you see multiple media outlets using the same terms and themes, the same phrases, it should set your spidey senses tingling. The coordination is not just you being paranoid.

I have an old house, 100 years plus, my electric was added on as it was being invented. For two 220v circuits,  2 outlets each for 4 miners, from the basement to the 2nd floor spare bedroom,  he quoted me between 600 and 800, I offered 750 If he did it the next day. He seemed most pleased. And it was done the next day. Including a small breaker box on the side of my main box, 2 breakers one each circuit. 2 slots left in the box in case I need more later. US, northeast.

Thank you.

Sold out again,  just now. I'm in the US,  northeast, can anybody lay out for me what additional expenses I can expect? Shipping, customs, etc. I read the thread, there's some conflicting information in there, especially the ups hostage taking thing, which I understand seems random,  but the rest of it I'd love to see it laid out in simple terms. If anyone familiar has the time. Please and thank you.

Problem: Identified.
Solutions?

China is corrupt, throw a few reminbri around, everyone looks the other way.

I think they're trying to imply they have something like the GMO cards that are still as of yet unseen in the real world. Obviously, they don't.

I try to give back to the community by running a full node whenever possible, I have the space, (and also I'm greedy for free btc private) but the inability to encrypt the wallet is discouraging me from doing so for this coin. I respectfully suggest to the devs this should maybe be a higher priority to get fixed. Who wants to adopt an insecure coin? Using zclassic swing wallet ui 0.58, I believe this is the "core" wallet. The dev page requests users run a full node to solve the verification problem, but then the core wallet cannot be encrypted. These two things are at odds with one another. 

I've been following this thread closely, and I wonder, what's so great about a 16T miner that nobody has ever seen that makes it worth risking precious btc on? I mean, ebang has an 18t for the same price, and they're a real company, with real products. Nobody seems to be going crazy for that. How come the dragonmint is so worthwhile? Less power consumption or something? I don't get it. I understand speculating, that's cool, but people are sending real btc to them, unrecoverable transactions. Seems kind of scary. I wouldn't mind taking a chance with a strongly protected credit card but btc is just gone if they screw you. And until recently it was 5 units or nothing. Is there some quality of the haloong miner that makes it great and I'm missing it? 

Now at .07 sia coin per hour, down 93% since 1/27. 2 or 3 days.
That's a lot of drop.