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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: t-shirt idea: "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" on: June 13, 2011, 04:19:10 PM
Lol you're killing me smalls. If you just horde them, and I just horde them, who's gonna get them?

You're just passing the buck (lol), not the bit.

Satoshi you are not :-) You need a t-shirt that sez "I'm just riding this thing for money. Give me your most valuable currency (btc/usd/yen/spacemoney) now."
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: t-shirt idea: "I am Satoshi Nakamoto" on: June 13, 2011, 03:48:24 PM
my offer was $45 for 3:)  sorry, not willing to part with btc's.

Hmm, definitely not Satoshi then.

Yeah that's almost insulting. You want to promote btc, want a btc shirt, and offer strictly USD. Mr. Nakamoto demands your bitcoins back...doesn't trust you at all with them.
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can trolls affect a solid currency? on: June 13, 2011, 05:07:57 AM
Successful _______ is successful, always.

btc, yen, teh lulz, forum, no forumz....no difference.

84  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will only succeed once it takes the right approach to the decimal place. on: June 13, 2011, 04:50:02 AM

You have it backwards.  The economy will support BTC when the decimal point moves.  Bitcoin simply cannot attract casual users at the current price point.  Pricing things in decimals is insande.  A song should cost 10 BTC.


I guess you mean a song should be 10 satoshis, right?

Because...no song is worth 1/210000 of the economy. Might want to check https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ for the scope on how it would work long term.

Finally, not many things are bought in the decimal, hence why it hasn't moved. Market first, then technology. Dick Tracy, then cell phones; Not cell phones, then Dick Tracy (and why hopefully you haven't named your son/daughter Dick).
85  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Next pool to hate... on: June 13, 2011, 02:48:25 AM
bitcoinwatch.com

+1...spread yo' mining love (though slush's rox).
86  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will only succeed once it takes the right approach to the decimal place. on: June 13, 2011, 02:44:15 AM
The decimal place will move when the economy supports it. Right now, all the coins haven't been made, haven't been adopted, and aren't being circulated. The network is small (ish), and the decimal place helps mitigate scale.

Too small and micro-transactions become nogo (not an issue now).

Too big and olav's bot starts flooding with .00000000000000000000000001 transactions.

Come back when btc > $100 usd || users > 1M || iTunes song < .01 btc.
87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions made retroactively illegal? on: June 13, 2011, 02:33:21 AM
Yes, we have fallen far. I don't agree with the current flavor of judicial review, and think justices should be term limited. That being said, we all still see that there is a basis for laws with which the machines, both ours and theirs, must work.

The issue still resolves to the fact that the Constitution is still the basis for US Federal law/operations, and that operation can not retroactively screw someone. They can be put on notice for said-plundering, and they can plunder in the present, but they can't be historically plundered.

Just think of it like this: if they did outlaw btc transactions, best chain history will provide is circumstantial evidence for crimes of the present.

That, and think of the fact that most every law now clearly has an enforcement date in the future. The man doesn't want his hard legislation overturned on "constitutionality."
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions made retroactively illegal? on: June 13, 2011, 02:14:59 AM
No, the Constitution works pretty well where applicable (it's not the only law). Last I checked I don't have troops quartered in my house, nor If you don't like the interpretation of it, contact the interpreters :-)

Now who, o who, interprets law? If only there were people who interpreted law...

...And citizens who knew the power they wield, not the powers they yield....
89  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Twitter flashes...too bad I don't speak Japanese on: June 12, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
I guess....

....Or....

I'd just like to see a btc resilient enough to persist through such craaaziness :-)

So far fetched this "rumor"....I know...inconceivable :-)
90  Other / Meta / Re: Moderation Team on: June 12, 2011, 09:28:53 PM
Cool beans... as long as its up you're legit (I'm still t'd my post count went down), though I'll try to make extra sure I keep it in the little lines you give me kk.

Though with that, any news is market news :-) Veracity is subjective.
91  Other / Meta / Re: Moderation Team on: June 12, 2011, 09:20:51 PM
No, I posted some of the ONLY "news" about a critical service down for 4 hours. Sorry "rumors" affect the market, but they need to be handled. Sorry if that "rumor" annoyed people unprepared for a possible outcome.

Guess they couldn't handle it. BTW your PM said it shouldn't be posted out of thread. You deleted the thread to. No discussion about anything.


Why not let the community judge...
92  Other / Meta / Re: Moderation Team on: June 12, 2011, 09:02:49 PM
I just had a thread deleted, along with various posts about a relative topic and subject.

Just saying...
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Twitter flashes...too bad I don't speak Japanese on: June 12, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
EDIT: It lives. Shell company must be up lol.
94  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Twitter flashes...too bad I don't speak Japanese on: June 12, 2011, 08:38:11 PM
Ok Mr. Bandwagon. While successful troll is successful, your mom is not.

Some look for information...others offer it.

Still waiting for that hot pocket huh?






Still...MtGox = lifeless. More info in allusion (sorry if your english teacher sucked, bra).
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Twitter flashes...too bad I don't speak Japanese on: June 12, 2011, 08:27:59 PM
Did they leave footprints?
96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long has Mt Gox been dead? 2 hours? on: June 12, 2011, 08:25:58 PM
It's not dead; it's just not processing orders.

Operator is either tired, or he's in handcuffs....either way gotta deal with it.
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Twitter flashes...too bad I don't speak Japanese on: June 12, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/TheRealDanQuinn

TheRealDanQuinn‎ Just got off the phone, confirmed the DEA in co-operation with Japanese authorities have raided mtgox Site is being watched! #bitcoin #mtgox
Twitter - 1 hour ago

Discuss. Key points:

1) The market deals with it.

2) All those with eggs in wrong basket...no scrambled eggs this month for you.
98  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Can't sell Bitcoin on Mt Gox? on: June 12, 2011, 07:08:18 PM
Aliens are cashing out. Private transactions only.
99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions made retroactively illegal? on: June 12, 2011, 07:06:35 PM
No, not really. Ex post facto situations tend to be obvious.
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions made retroactively illegal? on: June 12, 2011, 06:57:12 PM
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

- Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

- Article 1, Section 10 of the US Constitution

I don't understand what that text means. Does it means that taxes can be retroactive? Can bitcoin transactions come to be taxed retroactively?

ex post fac·to  (ks pst fkt)
adj.
Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. Used especially of a law.

- The Dictionary.
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