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81  Economy / Economics / Re: Article: Bank of Japan inflates the yen to infinity and beyond starting 2014 on: January 25, 2013, 08:49:26 AM
I still don't understand, artificially stimulating demand is inefficient and leads to so much waste, is that not so plainly seen? Where does most of our consumption lay? Imports?

and what's with our obsession with the status quo. "Oh, DJIA is slipping, let's borrow into infinity and hopefully that solves our debt problem! Oh bush added 4 trillion? Lets do that in one term! Better yet, let's best that and add another 2T!"

The people in charge are sociopaths. They don't give a shit about people, the country, the economy, human society. they only care about increasing their own power and wealth. They can only do this using state apparatus, which has the socially sanctioned right to use violence.

Understand this primary motive and it's easier make sense of the insanity that comes from the government.
82  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in Reincarnation? on: January 24, 2013, 05:09:53 AM
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Everyone is the same thing. The chair your sitting on is just as much of you as your arm. Everything in the universe is made of things in the universe, meaning we all are one... Interesting to think about.

I believe in reincarnation in that sense, as we are all the same thing. Its kind of like all living things are the universe seeing itself in different perspectives.

So your toilet won't flush. What action do you take? How is this action related to your philosophy?

There is no separate entity "I" that can take any action. Action will happen, but the idea that there is a separate "me" doing it is just a thought.
83  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in Reincarnation? on: January 23, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
Wrong question.

All there is is the fundamental reality, "god" if you want. Consciousness is probably a better word. The world is a manifestation in consciousness, which is aware of all things.

You are not "you" or the body or the mind. You are consciousness, which is aware of the body/mind/experience.

The confusion comes from the ego. What this means is that the mind of your average human has this idea inside it that "I am this body" (or something similar) and simultaneously holds the idea that this is a true thought. As a consequence, this neural network/learning machine that is the human brain, behaves AS IF IT IS A BODY. This is all a deterministic process. Obviously a brain will behave according to what it believes.

The result is a phenomenon where every action that the body takes and every thought that it has is associated with the belief that "I" am the doer of this deed or "I" am the thinker of this thought. This then reinforces the belief that "I am this body". This is the ego. It is an illusion.

Consciousness is simply aware of this illusion; it is aware of the experience of believing you are a body. In an enlightened being, it is aware of it's true self as the fundamental reality.

There is no reincarnation. Each human is really just a manifestation of the same fundamental reality. A vessel thought which god experiences itself.
84  Economy / Economics / Re: work for the sake of work on: January 21, 2013, 10:32:04 PM
Thank you so much, This really opened my eyes.

You're welcome! :-)
85  Economy / Economics / Re: German gold reserves hauled back to Germany on: January 21, 2013, 06:15:36 AM
So they don't have any gold then. What other explanation is there for these shenanigans?

Also, is this a sign of global conflict to come? Is Germany just distrustful of the USA with it's gold or are they just making sure they have it at home when war erupts?

Also, if it becomes clear that the USA has no gold, how will this influence markets? Could it trigger the collapse of the dollar?
86  Economy / Economics / Re: work for the sake of work on: January 21, 2013, 05:58:42 AM
The retrenched workers will find work in other areas of the economy where they will actually be paid to do productive work.

Keeping the unproductive people employed is just a lose-lose proposition. The company suffers and produces less goods/services and the potential productivity of the worker is wasted. You say this is greedy and you might be right, but society is much better off for this. The alternative is that everyone suffers; prices go up for everyone.

If the recovery is "uneven", it's because the government is intervening in the allocation of capital, such as enforcing the very policy suggested (interfering with the terms of employment). Jobs can't go where they're needed and the economy doesn't seem to recover... huh!

So, let's make up a mock experiment using some made-up Best Buy corporate store. We'll say they have 20 cashiers and 20 salesmen. The company recognizes that each salesperson is technically bringing in net income for the company. However, their workload is relatively low. Many of them have more down-time than time able to work due to a lack of customers (and overstaffing). Most of the cashiers are worked beyond what they're able. Lines at this Best Buy store are thought by management to be too long, resulting in customers avoiding the store. Best Buy has two obvious options to help alleviate or solve the problem: fire some salesmen and assume customers will purchase fewer items, relieving cashiers OR retrain some salesmen to work as cashiers (keeping in mind these jobs have a lot of crossover skills).


so cashiers are "working beyond what they are able", but the company is "overstaffed"? This makes no sense...

Firing the salesmen, I'd argue, is simply giving up on the employees, and it's probably bad for the economy as a whole. By not retraining the salesmen to do something similar, you're letting them out into the wild where they now must explain termination on a resume. Should they readily find a new job (which I can assure is very difficult in a rural area), it's very possibly these people who've spent years or decades working their job will now go into a different type of job with an entirely different skill-set required. I'd argue when a company like AmEx lets go of a mass of workers like that, it's management basically just throwing their hands up and declaring "we don't know what we're doing. We don't know what to do with these people. We can't think of any way to use 'our most valuable asset' in a profitable way, and all this time, the arguments in upper-management have always been 'do we fire them, or keep them doing what they're doing?'" I can imagine a lot of scenarios where it isn't the workers' fault, but really the lazy management's inability to repurpose relatively valuable people (given they have a history with these people, they have lots of useful data).



The point is, the company will make the most economically rational decision they can. If that means they must fire workers, then that's what they should do. If they're making bad business decisions, then they deserve to go bust and let some more productive entrepreneurs buy up their capital. Otherwise they're just wasting resources.

Are you going to pay someone to mow your lawn, even if it was just mowed, because they need the work? Yeah, the lawn mowing guy gets the cash he needs, but he's productivity is wasted by your subsidy and you lose that cash. Meanwhile, he should be facing reality and finding better work and you could be paying some other guy to paint your fence, which you actually need to have done. You would just be enabling a poor career path and denying the valid career of the painter. This is a poor allocation of resources and the company scenario is fundamentally no different.

The lawn mower will have to learn new skills and that's exactly what he should do. He needs to learn how to produce something that people actually want. That's how the market works.


Idunno. Lack studies to say anything authoritative, so I'm just shooting out speculation, too. It seems a little scummy to me to fire a large number of workers, though, without firing executive management. Maybe contractually give execs a special one-off monetary bonus to make the decision, but insist they can't be rehired, so they have to really think if there's absolutely no way to use these proven, skilled workers in some relevant way. Firing people just seems like a half-ass, lazy, "easy" solution. I'm really not arguing over whether or not government should be involved, though - just curious on whether or not firing "unproductive" workers is a net gain or loss for the economy once total unproductiveness in unemployment, demand decrease, and welfare are factored in. I guess, growing up, I only heard that "firing people is bad because companies make money, and they shouldn't make more money by firing people," and by the time I hit the age of reason, I was surrounded by libertarians so I've never heard any decent debates on the matter.

It's simple. If it's a loss for the company, then it's a loss for the economy.
87  Economy / Economics / Re: Inflation that's equally distributed. on: January 18, 2013, 09:31:20 PM
This is just robbing savers.

You should only be able to consume what you produce. Using force to impose any other distribution system will be less optimal. If an individual is so unproductive that they cannot sustain themselves, they must rely on the voluntary charity of their peers.
88  Economy / Speculation / Re: Search volumes says you are overpaying for your coins on: January 17, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
I think we could see $5 or $7 in 2013.
Such confidence.


Roll Eyes

How many times do established users google "bitcoin"?

Maybe if you looked at the integral of search volume you could find some rough correlation, but raw search volume vs. price is pretty useless.

I think the search volume for "bitcoin" might represent the first derivative of the price.
89  Economy / Economics / Re: Regression theorem & Bitcoin revisited on: January 17, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
There is no such thing as "intrinsic" value. Value is subjective, no debate.

Bitcoin is valued as a medium of exchange. You can't make zero fee online transactions that aren't tied to your real-life identity with any other exchange medium. This has value!

I think the regression theorem doesn't account for the fact that the "initial demand" of a currency can indeed be as a currency. People need to trade and trade is more efficient with a medium of exchange. The market values currency itself as currency.
90  Economy / Economics / Re: work for the sake of work on: January 15, 2013, 11:00:43 PM
“Against the backdrop of an uneven economic recovery, these restructuring initiatives are designed to make American Express more nimble, more efficient and more effective in using our resources to drive growth,” Chenault said in the statement.

greedy fucks, why not keep them employed, just a drop in the bucket to keep them employed with the profits they make.

Is that some kind of troll? This is an economically destructive attitude. Why pay people to do redundant work when those resources could be spent better elsewhere?
It might be good for the company, and in principal, it seems sound, but finding new work is generally a resource-consuming process itself (not just for the worker himself, but the economy as a whole as consumption possibly drops). Overall, it may be an economically destructive action to "give up" on employees rather than trying to "salvage" them (whether that means keeping them on-board assuming they'll be profit-makers later, or repurposing them to work in a similar role). Not taking a side either way, but it'd be interesting to read studies on the true impact of letting employees go.

The retrenched workers will find work in other areas of the economy where they will actually be paid to do productive work.

Keeping the unproductive people employed is just a lose-lose proposition. The company suffers and produces less goods/services and the potential productivity of the worker is wasted. You say this is greedy and you might be right, but society is much better off for this. The alternative is that everyone suffers; prices go up for everyone.

If the recovery is "uneven", it's because the government is intervening in the allocation of capital, such as enforcing the very policy suggested (interfering with the terms of employment). Jobs can't go where they're needed and the economy doesn't seem to recover... huh!
91  Economy / Economics / work for the sake of work on: January 12, 2013, 10:19:51 PM
“Against the backdrop of an uneven economic recovery, these restructuring initiatives are designed to make American Express more nimble, more efficient and more effective in using our resources to drive growth,” Chenault said in the statement.

greedy fucks, why not keep them employed, just a drop in the bucket to keep them employed with the profits they make.

Is that some kind of troll? This is an economically destructive attitude. Why pay people to do redundant work when those resources could be spent better elsewhere?
92  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If the minimum reason a government exists.... on: December 22, 2012, 10:25:34 PM
IMO capitalism has no purpose when gift culture could replace it, there is a place for capitalism in regard to things with inherent scarcity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

How will resources be allocated efficiently in a gift culture?

I don't think he ever suggested they would be. Note: "there is a place for capitalism in regard to things with inherent scarcity." such as resources. For things like information, however, a gift economy would work fine.

Sorry. I didn't read the whole thread.
93  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for gun control activists: on: December 22, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=132065.0

relevant thread.
94  Other / Politics & Society / Re: System building on: December 22, 2012, 10:20:50 PM
Three words, one term:

Post-structural Anarchism.

Anarchy implies without structure - there is structure here, its simply horizontal, not vertical.

Close. Anarchy implies without hierarchy (hence the "archy" part). Horizontal structure, not vertical.

I didn't read the whole thread, but what you're doing sounds like voluntarism combined with agorism. I approve :-) and think this is exactly the way to transition to a free society: bottom up.
95  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The History, Philosophy and Ethics of Gun Control on: December 22, 2012, 10:12:14 PM
Just watched it. Pretty conclusive.

Good material to forward to your liberal/gun-control-advocating friends.
96  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If the minimum reason a government exists.... on: December 22, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
IMO capitalism has no purpose when gift culture could replace it, there is a place for capitalism in regard to things with inherent scarcity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem

How will resources be allocated efficiently in a gift culture?
97  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I think I'm actually going to boycott mainstream televised news on: December 18, 2012, 08:31:03 PM
I seem to have gotten the figure wrong.  It's only 262 million corpses.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

So the "statist" response to this (and really the point of that site) is that not all governments commit democide equally, but it is a function of how totalitarian the government is.

I don't want, and never wanted, to blame "governments".  They don't exist.  All there is, is people doing things.

I blame the belief in the virtue of a group who perpetrates organized aggression to parasitize everyone else.  People under the influence of this belief, whether members or victims of this group, are the ones who believe that governments exist.  Not me.

What you see in observable reality is nothing more than (a) a tiny minority of people telling you what to do and how much to pay so they will let you live unharmed (b) a gaggle of people who incorrectly believe that the first group are their saviors and protectors, and worship them as a result of this incorrect belief.

That is, to me, the essence of statism.  It is to recoil in horror when watching an aggressor murder another, then to watch the exact same scene with the aggressor in a blue costume, only to say "well, he had it coming".  It is to feel terrified about being robbed of half of what you have, but paying up every April 15th with an unease that is hard to explain away.  It is to talk shit about Halliburton while celebrating the paid murderers in green costumes.  It is to cry in awe as the President sheds tears for the death of 20 children, when he himself has ordered the firebombing of 2000.  It is that level of irrationallity.  That is statism.

The problem isn't "totalitarianism".  It never was, not in the slightest.  The problem really isn't "aggressive people using too much aggression".  The problem is the belief that a bunch of aggressive people are virtuous and protect you.  That very belief, that the aggressive people are authorized and righteous to use aggression, is precisely what enables the aggressive people to murder everyone else, with total impunity.

If you think for a second that you live in a human farm, where you're farmed for your labor, and suppressed if you become a problem for the farmers, then the distinction between "totalitarianism" and "democracy" becomes very easy to figure out: both are merely methods to organize the farm.

The belief that a human being is righteously authorized to murder, brutalize, or cage another human being, as punishment for peacefully resisting an order, is not a totalitarian belief -- it is a statist belief.  Democide is not caused by totalitarianism -- it is caused by statism.

Great post!

I especially like the "What you see in observable reality" bit. (a) and (b) go hand in hand. This is why we have the mainstream news, to continuously convince (b) that they need (a).
98  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I think I'm actually going to boycott mainstream televised news on: December 17, 2012, 09:39:47 PM
I boycotted mainstream news and television years ago.
99  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Want to pay NO income tax? Cut welfare. on: December 15, 2012, 10:52:41 PM
Without welfare, students will have to work there way through uni, sick people will die or depend on charity donations, single mothers and the poor will end up homeless and on the street, crime will increase, and the gap between the rich and poor will become even greater.

Try looking at the other side of the coin. What are the consequences of NOT robbing people of half their labor to give handouts?

- A man can actually support his family without his wife working, leading to better raised children, less strain on the relationship hence fewer single moms needing welfare.
- More disposable income/time for voluntary charity.
- Stop the culture of dependency that the welfare system creates. These people will actually work and produce extra wealth for society instead of pumping out more welfare babies.
- More wealth produced due to NOT reallocating resources from the productive to the unproductive. This will result in lower cost of living.

Of course, most of the problems that the welfare system "solves" are problems which are also created by state violence: crime, gap between rich and poor, high cost of medical care/education, etc.

You are treating the symptoms of institutionalised violence with institutionalised violence.
100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Want to pay NO income tax? Cut welfare. on: December 15, 2012, 10:39:21 PM
Example for Australia:

$150,890 million - Individuals Income Tax (includes capital gains)

$121,907 million - Social Security and Welfare

$21,277 million - Defence

1. Remove income tax.
2. Remove social security and welfare.
3. Remove defence (we don't need to be fighting in any wars)
4. Bump up the corporate tax by 1% or so.
5. Huh
6. PROFIT!

Hell yes! I'm living in AU and have made the same point.
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