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81  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC on: August 07, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Hi Rolyland,

The new shares was sold on the market. It's the ask part. The fund always gets more than current NAV for new shares.

Great to hear.  Here's hoping you put the new funds to good use.  Keep up the great work!
82  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC on: August 07, 2013, 07:02:12 AM
Maybe I'm a bit thick, so please take pity on me.

Can someone explain why shares outstanding has been going up the last few weeks/months (for example, between the 8 July report and the 22 July report there are some 800 new shares issued)?  Are you discreetly issuing more shares above the NAV? 

Your last report mentioned share buyback, but not share issuance, and I see nothing in the OP about issuance of shares (although it does say you will issue shares above the NAV on the bitfunder description).  And the shares were scarcely trading at NAV, let alone above it.  So I hope you can forgive my confusion.

Thanks
83  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: August 07, 2013, 06:42:02 AM
Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy



Only delivered chips as far as I'm aware is zefir's batch one.

Yeah and the chips I have ordered are part of zefir's batch one. So yes, I will get my boards in my hands hopefully by the end of next week.

Lucky!  (No, not luck on your part, you were quick, I was slow - I just missed the tail of batch 2, ended up in batch 3).
84  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: August 07, 2013, 06:05:45 AM
Great news!

I only regret not ordering more chips now so that I can get more of these bad boys Cheesy



Only delivered chips as far as I'm aware is zefir's batch one.
85  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: August 07, 2013, 03:59:46 AM
Little OT, but it seems that with some of the current problems with Avalon and BFL,
the mining community is really going to benefit from having someone they're able
to not only talk to, but count on to bring a product to them. We don't know how well
Ken & co. are going to be able to do this, but there is huge potential for them in
doing so, and I really think they get that.

This.  The first mining-hardware-selling company that acts like any other consumer-goods selling company in the world (ie. I give you money, you give me product), without all the nonsense, delays, uncertainty, out-of-stock etc will make an absolute killing. 

ASICMiner isn't (yet?) up to the challenge, Avalon showed potential but keep dropping the ball, BFL LOL, and all everyone else has delivered so far is promises as far as I know.

I just hope it's ActiveMining that steps up and does this right, because I am a shareholder.  But for the sake of Bitcoin, I hope _someone_ steps up and does it right, sooner rather than later.
86  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: August 07, 2013, 01:33:46 AM
You may doubt that these competitors will be able to reach those price points but this project is being run by DeaDTerra who also invested early on in ASICMINER and Satoshi Dice which both paid off in droves. Clearly he must see a huge upside to this project, and I doubt very much that he would not do the proper $/GH calculations when formulating his plan.


That logic there my friend is a short trip to the poorhouse.  That someone who seems to have been a successful investor in the past is involved should have no bearing whatsoever on your individual decision to invest or not.  You can't know their reasons for getting involved, and they certainly won't tell you their exit strategy.  Trying to catch a ride on the backs of giants is a dangerous game.  Make your own decisions, and invest amounts that you are comfortable with, knowing there is a very real risk this will all evaporate overnight.
87  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread on: August 07, 2013, 01:28:04 AM
I've developed two small guidelines so far in my short time here.

1. If anyone posts a picture of a rocket and adds something like "To the moon!" it is time to sell.

2. If everyone is shitting their pants at the latest fud and the price is dropping fast it is time to buy, because will be all over in 15 min when the people with the attention span of a puppy have forgotten whatever it was they thought was so important.



this is how people get rich

And poor.
88  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinJar - Australia's first VC-backed Bitcoin startup on: August 01, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
They do have a progressive limit raising system where your limit goes up for each successful transaction, and a 7 day hold on the first transaction (which is limited to $100). This will help protect them from casual scamming.

That makes good sense.  Protection from casual scammers is relatively easy, it's the dedicated scammers you have to be careful of.

The fact that they claim their product is taxed as a financial product but they're not registered to deal in financial products is another worry.

Not with you on that one.  Calling something "X" for tax purposes is not the same as saying something is "X".

Some people are bothered by the fact Mr. Zhou is a principal. I wasn't on the scene then but apparently he has a controversial history with his previous ventures.

Dunno about anyone else, but I think keeping any more than a couple of coins on any exchange is risky.  Move them home, move them offline.

Another pink flag is the very low spread they charge. AFAIK it is far tighter than any competitor in the Australian market which makes you wonder, why? A grocer undercuts his competitor by 5c, not a dollar. Businesses with extraordinary prices often have non-business motives, such as scamming or money laundering.

Maybe they recognise that Aussie exchanges are gouging the hell out of us locals, and want to become the Australian bitcoin exchange (they've said as much).  Maybe they are hoping that by becoming internationally competitive, not just locally competitive, they can increase the size of the market?  Makes some sense to me.
89  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CoinJar - Australia's first VC-backed Bitcoin startup on: August 01, 2013, 06:26:50 AM
great service very good all aussies should jump on this service

Seems too good to be true. Unless they have a clever new way to do verification they will suffer the fate of Bitpiggy. Also they are exposed yet trying to play the regulatory gray area as to whether Bitcoin is a financial product or not.

Yeah, wonder how many reversed transactions they'll absorb before things change?  Even bitinnovate, that only accepted over-the-counter cash deposits, closed their doors....
90  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Looking for a laptop at BitcoinStore.com on: July 30, 2013, 11:23:15 PM
I've been hunting for a new laptop, and wishing to support bitcoin I've been looking at the bitcoinstore.  To say their offerings are underwhelming would be putting it nicely.

Some of the stuff they have there is ridiculous.  A core 2 duo laptop for more than BTC10?!
https://www.bitcoinstore.com/lenovo-ideapad-y550-15-6-notebook-intel-core-2-duo-t7350-2ghz-white.html

I've found it nearly impossible to find something on their site that meets my requirements.  I've been researching elsewhere because filtering on the site is terrible, and when I find something I think I may want it's not available on their store.

Not giving up yet, but I'll be surprised if I manage to find a laptop that meets my needs on their site.
91  Other / Meta / Re: Unfair traders of auctions on: July 29, 2013, 01:28:31 AM
Report as scammer?
92  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] 252 AVALON ASIC Chips from bizwoo's Group Buy on: July 17, 2013, 09:28:42 AM
Payment and PM sent, with thanks.
93  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] 252 AVALON ASIC Chips from bizwoo's Group Buy on: July 16, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
140chips @ 0.09BTC = 12.6BTC

For shipping to burnin for assembly
94  Economy / Economics / Re: Economics of mining today on: July 08, 2013, 07:21:28 AM
I would recommend reading a few Butterfly Labs reviews and talking to past customers before ordering.


I personally have vowed to never deal with butterfly labs.  IMO their incompetence and misinformation has been so outstanding, so outlandish, that they have not merely screwed their own customers, but they have arguably put the entire bitcoin asic mining industry back by 6 to 12 months.  Add to this their utter disdain for their own (pre-) paying customers and laughable customer service, and frankly it makes me sad this company is still in business.

But that's just me, you make your own call.
95  Economy / Economics / Re: Economics of mining today on: July 05, 2013, 11:30:15 AM
Remember the difficulty will increase from now and you will be in a queue when you order at butterflylabs...

http://blockchain.info/de/charts/hash-rate

A loooooooooooooong queue.
96  Economy / Economics / Re: Economics of mining today on: July 05, 2013, 07:23:59 AM
http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
97  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 150 direct ASICMINER shares on: July 03, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
Apologies for the useless post, but why would you sell for this price when it's so much higher (5+ now) on the btct?


It's an auction.  He's committed to sell at whatever price the auction arrives at.  That's how it works.

You could argue that he'd have been better off to transfer his shares to a PT and sell there, however that would require a) setting up an exchange account, b) transferring shares, c) selling shares over time to avoid depressing the price too much, d) withdrawing the funds.  If he values his time, privacy and a quick sale, an auction may make sense. 

That's how I see it anyway.
98  Economy / Securities / Re: How to short ASICMINER???? on: July 03, 2013, 07:06:03 AM
Find someone willing to loan you their AM shares, and sell them.  That's a good old fashioned covered short sale.

Or you could use options to achieve a similar effect.  You could buy some out-of-the money put options.  Or you could write some naked in-the-money calls.  If writing options, I would go for European style, of course.

Everything except buying the puts would require you to put up collateral to guarantee that you'd fulfil your obligations.
99  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 150 direct ASICMINER shares on: July 03, 2013, 06:48:33 AM
10 @ 4.6

For transfer to burnside, using burnside as share escrow
100  Economy / Securities / Re: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion on: July 02, 2013, 07:37:54 AM
To the person asking about what happens to the AMC holdouts if VMC buys all the AMC shares:

In other stock exchanges, depending on the place of listing, there is such a thing as compulsory acquisition.  Once someone owns upwards of 90-95% of the stock of a company, they can force the remaining shareholders to sell. 

If VMC were to list on favourable terms, offering a 1-for-1 share swap of AMC shares for VMC shares, then I have no doubt that a majority of AMC shareholders would take the offer.

I'm not sure what could be done about the sell walls of AMC shares on bitfunder and btct.  Maybe he could just sell those shares to VMC, say 1-for-1 for VMC shares.   And then AMC could sell those VMC shares on-market, and because AMC is majority owned by VMC, the proceeds go to VMC.

I don't know, it's all a bit murky because AMC shareholders aren't actually shareholders - we bought a right to a fraction of the profits of the company called AMC.

No doubt the lawyers need to get involved.

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