I am excited about this
 if you haven't already, please take a little survey, it is our top priority to understand what the community wants. We have been discussing about reducing the price drastically, perhaps down to $2xx price range. but in order to do so, i need a big volume of about 5000 orders, so i can negotiate a better deal with fpga chip supplier. initially i tried not be ambitious and just happy to make a small batch of 500 for the community members who appreciate it. but if there is high demand for this product, and want it be cheaper, we can work on that as well... |
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Thanks! we were doing some minor hw rework on the board, will send you tomorrow! Thanks so much for the recommendation / support guys - they arm_race sent me an email and stated he will be sending me a unit to review shortly, I'll deliver it as promptly as possible |
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Good job guys, adding more algos in the future definitely will attract more attention to the project as alternative to the more expensive solutions for mining. Yeah bringing cheap FPGA solution to the community is not an easy task.
Also have you researched the possibility for example of interlinking two of these chips for mining more demanding algos
Thanks good point, actually you made me think, but in order to do that efficiently i need a lot of io pins in parallel, i am not sure if this fpga chip has sufficient number of high speed IOs to support that. i need to look into that. |
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Thank you for offering help! yes i still own you some instructions i will do that right now. do you intend to test our miner against nicehash? if so we need to change on the host software. the one i sent you had programmed with KeccakC algo for CREA coin. it is essentially the same but the host side software requires a little change. ups says it comes on the 23rd. if it does use 25 watts that is only 600 a day. which is only 18 kwatts a month at 10 cents that is 1.80 a month for power
the 1070ti is 150 watts or 21.60 a month for power. at 20 cents.
I pointed 2 1050ti's at nicehash to mine keccak they do 600 mh my rig pulls 188 watts that means about 5 kwatts
at 10 cents = 50 cents on power I earn 15 cents = 35 cents in the hole.
add this 2 fpga watts go to 238 = 6 kwatts maybe 7 hash is 2600 I earn 65 cents with the two gpus and 2 fpgas
I spend about 60 cents so I make a 5 cent profit.
or better yet point them to cn7
the gpus alone use 50 cents power and earn 34 cents mining loss of 16 cents
the 2 fpgas earn 50 cents
the 2 gpus earn 34 cents
you spend 60 cents at 10 cent power
you make 24 cents a day.
point the 2 1050tis at eth
the gpus alone use 50 cents earn 49 cents loss of 1 cent
2 fpgas earn 50 cents cost about 10 cents
2 gpus earn 49 cents cost about 50 cents
rig makes 39 cents a day. is it a lot no but a dead rig at 10 cent power becomes an earner.
do I think I want 100 fpgas no but a few yes I do.
So I am will to help out.
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But on Keccak algo this FPGA would yield higher hashing performance than 1070ti, at only 1/10 of its power consumption, according to the thread below. we haven't even tried overclocking or increase the voltage to the core. look, every algorithm is inherently different, some may do better on gpu, and some may fit better on fpga. with a bigger programmer community we can build more efficient mining algorithms to serve the miners. don't forget building a gpu rig also requires investment in mobo, ssd, expensive power supplier, and cooling method as well, and you are limited to the number of PCIe ports on the board, while FPGA needs none of that, you can plug in as many as you want as long as there are enough usb ports. and it takes little space on your table  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2324651.201070TI founders 80% power 200+ core 600+ mem Keccak .871GH/s as to price, those mid-sized fpga are expensive, just do a search on digikey, the typical price for a fpga chip with 200+K logic cells cost at least $300 itself. besides we have a solid design in power supply circuit and a easy to use IO subsystem. believe me, our margin is extremely low, and taking risk of losing money. we are more interested in gaining experience, promoting crypto community, building a brand than making any profit. Thank you for good comment. From my point of view this device is way too expsnive.
For example: 500Mh/s on XDAG. With my 1070ti I can do exactly the double. 1000Mh/s.
I can buy an used 1070ti for 340usd and price is dropping.
The 1070ti uses more energy. But the 1070ti can do the DOUBLE of the hashrate and can mine ANY algo and costs a bit less (soon it will cost much less).
Sorry but this fpga is way overpriced. WAY overpriced. A more fair price would be around 160/180usd MAX. not more.
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okok guy, the domain is whois protected because it is offered for free for 1 year when i purchased it! and i intend to keep it on we are a legally registered US based company, i will update with more info on our page. sorry i was busy with other issues. OP, do you have any tech spec from your hardware design?
At least also provide us your spec, so we can really judge the performance of your fpga miner. Is it really worth to invest or not.
I myself play around already with legit and top of the line fpga development board, therefore able to give you hints at least on the performance wise based on your fpga chips and algorithm.
No answer is an answer. I think this FPGA miner is like SoftRAM / ACORN ... probably SCAM . Would you care to elaborate on why you are lumping Acorn in with scams? Acorn is a very real product with a massive amount of work behind it... Sorry, my native language is not english. I donīt want to say Acorn is Scam, but itīs like SoftRam. Acorn also donīt publish the specs. In my view the small FPGA with little blockram can only accelerate core intense algoīs(not ethash or cryptonight), whitch asicīs can do better.  This agilmine fpga is like the Acorn, maybe. Maybe itīs scam ( this agilmier fpga, not the Acorn), because the agilmineīs website is whois protected, has no imprint and no link to the real world(adress, llc number,...). In my opinion agilmine looks like scam. I hope itīs not scam. We will see ... |
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They don't look powerful enough at the moment for me to make any investment sense I fear... Unless my math is off, you'd need to stack up a few of those to come close to a GPU's current profitability, effectively negating the power and price advantage.
Let me revise this. The hash per $ is not good enough. You do indeed gain in efficiency (so good if your power costs are high), but they are too weak for the money at current profitability levels, put it that way...
i am not going to argue that based on current overall altcoin price the profitability of investing into this fpga miner is not strong. this project is trying to solve only 1 problem, which is "there is lack of a decent & affordable fpga device that is good for altcoin mining"early on, it probably took us only 2 weeks to develop the xdag algorithm bitstream on fpga, but we simply can't find a HW device to run it on, because crypto algo design requires too much power consumption than a typical fpga dev board can provide. the fpga devices you can find in the market for mining purpose are 1. too expensive/low availability 2. too big (hence much longer development cycle). that's the reason why we started this project to design our own fpga board for mining algorithm implementation only. Imagine at the early development stage if you can use this fpga device to mine coins, we would own ALL of them. |
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Hi, win 10 is better supported at the time, linux should work as well, but you probably won't run fpga programming tool on it. we have no specific hw requirement on mobo or RAM, as long as you can run win 10, and plug in one usb port, wait for the windows update finished, you should be able to use the host sw i am going to send you to start mining. I will send you specific instructions. thanks. I have a tracking number will post when I get it.
@ gpuhoarder looking forward to your acorn 215+ and nest2g adapter.
I built a thread ripper 1920x build to test it.
at op what mobo do I need
and what os do I need win 10 or linux or does your software have an os and needs its own mobo?
and what ram do i need. 4gb 8gb 16gb 32 gb
I just preordered a rtx 2080 from amazon due sept 20th
I have interest in mixing gear.
would be nice to get acorns
new gpus
this fpga all on the threadripper board.
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just now i shipped one board to philipma1957 VoskCoin accepted doing a test run for us as well, will send one to him tomorrow |
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OP, do you have any tech spec from your hardware design?
At least also provide us your spec, so we can really judge the performance of your fpga miner. Is it really worth to invest or not.
I myself play around already with legit and top of the line fpga development board, therefore able to give you hints at least on the performance wise based on your fpga chips and algorithm.
No answer is an answer. I think this FPGA miner is like SoftRAM / ACORN ... probably SCAM . sorry for you to think that way.. but fpga itself is a potent technology that can be applied to altcoin mining. i am enthusiastic about re-energizing the industry |
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send it to me I will run it and test and video it on you tube.
Shoot me a pm again I will give a shipping address.
I will also help with escrow if it is good.
Put it also on bittube please what is bittube??  |
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send it to me I will run it and test and video it on you tube.
Shoot me a pm again I will give a shipping address.
I will also help with escrow if it is good.
great i will have one shipped in two days! thanks! |
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Why not sell miners for example via Ebay? Ebay has a time-tested escrow structure. No problems with trust and charges of fraud. Or the developers have no money for the release of the first batch?
The market place like ebay would charge 10% for listing, the cost will be added the price.. we are trying to keep the price low as possible so ppl can afford it. also, we completely bootstrapped this project using our own money, with no extra fund. those fpga chips are expensive, we can't afford building the a batch of hundreds of units without some pre-order money... Ok, but maybe 10% is reasonable price for trust? People are tired of fraud. You need to understand this. agree, and also ebay, amazon would open the world wide market to you.. definitely worth the price once you have the inventory built ready to sell.. but still we don't have any inventory, and if people want us to do this, we need money to buy parts and pay for production. let me look into this, i totally understand you guys frustration .. i am open to any suggestion, grantedly we are all engineers with little experience on this topic  |
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Why not sell miners for example via Ebay? Ebay has a time-tested escrow structure. No problems with trust and charges of fraud. Or the developers have no money for the release of the first batch?
The market place like ebay would charge 10% for listing, the cost will be added the price.. we are trying to keep the price low as possible so ppl can afford it. also, we completely bootstrapped this project using our own money, with no extra fund. those fpga chips are expensive, we can't afford building the a batch of hundreds of units without some pre-order money... |
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I hope you guys will really send out samples
I PMed them, hope they will accept |
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sorry I should have spent more time on this forum.. but would you mind sending me links to these guys' profile pages? i have only 6 of those test boards, don't want to send to wrong people .. Thanks! for those who think this is a scam. we are ready to send demo boards to reputable forum member for verification and review soon. vosk or phillipma are my suggestions from this end =) |
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for those who think this is a scam. we are ready to send demo boards to reputable forum member for verification and review soon. vosk or phillipma are my suggestions from this end =) thanks for the info! we will contact them soon! |
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No, we are using Microchip Polarfire series flash based fpga chips, new product this year. This is only our first prototype, we can add a tiny PCIe to the final product. but it will add a small design risk for the change, and i'd like to know how many customers may ask for it? and for what usage? thanks. So which chip are you using?
You mention 28nm so I'm guessing Xilinx 7-series?
Perhaps the Artix7-200T?
The hashrates seems reasonable for that at least.
Is USB the only communication interface with the host?
Seems a bit limiting to only have that as interface.
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