Добре де, само BTC/ETH ли да превъртам по борсите?
А защо трябва изобщо да превърташ нещо?  Повечето койни ги държа в проекти като Nexo & Crypto.com където човек може да получи 5%-8% годишно само за държането. Аз трейдвам само ако имам нужда от това. Малките койни се манипулират прекалено лесно, а обикновено Дев тийма държи огромна част. Не се ли страхуваш, че ще ти ги щипнат (обяват фалит, самоограбят се и т.н.)? |
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I'm looking at the thread title and I cannot stop my grin  Is it really back to the beginning? |
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The pure truth is that crypto is a game of scam and many only stick to it just because of the possibility of quick money. The technology we are promoting is transparent and have what it takes to transform the world but human factor of not being able to do the right thing in an atmosphere that doesn't force them to be accountable of their actions is the shortcoming of this industry
So everything that's happening right now is a scam way to get people to believe in all this. This is very surprising and just thought by me. We all believed that cryptos might can change our life someday and to be honest it just like a quick money making if we do it correctly. I believe that peoples will accept cryptos and will be use on all around the world without banning it.if this happen bitcoin and other cryptos will pump up for sure. Good hopes will continue to emerge from the crypto world for everyone. People won't want to see something like this happen again next year and if it happens again it will get worse. Crypto users will experience a very rapid decline. Believe is a something which is not based on hard facts. In fact, it is not based on anything but some weird internal feeling, often mixed with desire. Even if you have a decent project with unique technology, it usually does not have enough money for marketing. Who can stop anyone with money to just clone the project, invest the money in it and flush the original (you) in the drain? |
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Добре де, само BTC/ETH ли да превъртам по борсите?
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Струва ми се, че във форума на hardwarebg хората са по-активни. Всички едновремешни овърклокъри и наъ-първите ентусиасти са/бяха там. Изключваме тези, които духнаха с коини Все пак ще се радвам и аз да чуя за популяризирането. Оказва се, че то е по-важно от технологията, която движи дадена монета. |
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Last time I visited this thread was a year ago.
As far as I can see people here are still arguing if Obyte
is scam or not, if management decisions are good or not.
Either a lot of people invested and are now dissatisfied due to price
or there is something wrong with the whole coin.
Whatever it is, Obyte is a popular coin, using different (than most) distribution method
which will bring variety to the whole blockchain experiment. Good luck.
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Can this coin be "mined" on Windows machine?
Can it be traded? Why does it exist?
Hi, I'm just an user, no team member, I try to answer: Nyzo can be traded here on multiple exchanges, see here: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/nyzo/trading_exchanges#panelYou can "mine" by setting up an verifier (works on a windows server with fixed ipv4 address), be aware there is a waiting period before you can join. For more details check their website, discord, replies in this thread etc. The proof of diversity consesus is an innovative concept, I quote their whitepaper: "Nyzo is an open-source, highly decentralized, democratic, and highly efficient blockchain. The block time is seven seconds, and the system scales well to high transaction volumes. This is not like most of the new coins you see: this is not a derivative of another project, and it is not just a few new features or a slight design change from other projects. This is all-new code, built from the ground up to be the most efficient, most democratic, easiest-to-use cryptocurrency in the world. " See https://nyzo.co/whitePaperThanks for the info. This project looks interesting.. a bit similar to O-byte, but without the bad management. Since I only have Windows based systems, is it possible to run a virtual machine inside which I can run a verifier? Have you tried it and can you recommend a certain VM? |
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yeep, china is only welcome on the blockchain. but remains controversial with decentralized cryptocurrencies. because bitcoin and friends can't be controlled. so China considers it illegal.
Bitcoin technology (blockchain) is indeed needed, so the Chinese government is planning to make their currency using the blockchain, and this is one way to block bitcoin and make changes to their transaction systems.
I disagree. China is the N1 maker of mining equipment, China is in the top 3 BTC mining countries, China has areas with very cheap electricity. All this means they get USD when selling the mining gear, (as the people got rich during the Gold Rush by selling shovels, not by digging themselves). But on top of that they also are one of the top miners (e.g. BTC holders). Binance is Chinese. From all this I can conclude that crypto is a huge income for China. And when something gives the government a huge income, but at the same time it gives financial freedom to your citizens, you can: 1. Put taxes on anything BTC related 2. Try to copy the technology and implement it yourself 3. Monitor and control as much as possible any huge BTC movements and track China BTC Richlist 4. you add here 5. you add here |
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BTCitcointalk is like the blockchain - it keeps all the posts all the time.
If someone wants to invest enough time, he/she can follow all the development from the very begining.
Happy birthday BTC talk!
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I disagree with you on this one, you should've listed out the once you feeling negative about and not generalized it considering the fact that bitcoin is the mother of all crypto currency follow by ETH and some other great projects out there that are really doing great.
I said what I meant. Bitcoin is not much different. Yes, it is "The Mother of all crypto". But do you put it at number one "followed by ETH" based on it's price or based on it's development, capabilities, power usage, speed, features, etc? It gets older and older and companies like Paypal now have feeles payments for friends and colleagues. By the time Blockchain develops enough, these companies will also develop new strategies to ridicule the piling up of thousands of power-hungry, noisy machines to make (not always) cheap transactions. |
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First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.
I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?
Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.
I really like your boldness to speak up on this particular case, most projects are outright scam or baseless, no matter the said products or development they claim to achieve on the roadmap. Truth is, if regulations don't come, anyone can always come up with a project, make money from it, create hype around it by claiming to achieve milestones on roadmap and make much more money repeatedly. However, mainstream adoption will take a long time to come and till then, we will just be going through a cycle of "development and use cases on paper". THank you. What I noticed among many people who commented is that they think in future tense. My statement is stated now, not in 3 months, 3 years or when Bull run happens. Not when Ethereum's, Bitcoin's etc, main adoption happens. That is why I like "development and use cases on papper"  . What I'm starting to notice is that serious companies with a legit bussiness are starting to get interested by blockchain technology, but with this speed it will take 10 more years. And for some reason I think none of them will adopt a currency which is already in circulation. All countries will just create their own, centralized digital money which will be also easy to manipulate as are the paper money. Thus crypto will be used only for shady deals, Darknet and some small shops since they can crypto can easily be outlawed. Nevertheless, crypto will brend a very nice tech to the world by the name of Blockchain. |
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A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
I agree on your statement above but except for this. Why ICO projects are in need of marketing people? They need them because they need marketing for the business, they need them because ICO project should have a real project or a physical project. It's not all about programming. If it's a group of programmers then I can consider it as a scam since I'll immediately consider that as a ICO that does not have a physical project. You definitely misunderstood what the OP was referring to because he talking about the crypto community not needing most of the ICOs, IEOs and STOs project because some of them are just imitating previous concept launched by a project long ago all for the purpose of enriching their pocket. Exactly |
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I think cryptocurrency itself is an experiment, not a scam per se. The madness started when people try to assign real-world value to the research.
The developer centralization also one of the "variables" that we put into this experiment.
Hence if someone asks me about cryptocurrencies, I always answer it with the word "experiment."
Which one will be successful? We can only guesstimate.
I like the way you see crypto.
Yea well the developers should start creating something that people will want to use, that is what matters now, its all about giving the public what they want, you are right and your point is the reason why i prefer projects with real life working products
Which projects offer something which cannot be bought using dollars? Yes, Bitcoin can also be called a scam. It exists for 10 years now and it is still underdeveloped. No fast transactions, no real decentralization, total alienation from the masses (mining I mean). Bitcoin belongs to China now. China profits from Crypto by trading it, selling machines for mining it and mining it using their own machines, delivered at lowest price. It uses tons of electric power and the only thing it still does is piling up blocks on top of each-other for 10 years. I'm in this forum, because I believe in decentralization and freedom of sending value over The Net. Because I remember the times when a bank wanted me to pay $80 so they can type a few numbers on a computer and send a few bytes to the other side of the world. Yes, I'm mad at all scammers which are hanging like a huge parasite, sucking the flesh off the ripe fruit, called people's trust in crypto. |
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Brilliant! In a couple of lines, you opened the real face of every new crypto project. Through your talks, yes, they are all scam! The same thing happening again and again but no improvement in the crypto market. If those liers really have world-famous programmers then what are they doing except managing the website and groups? I don't think 90% of crypto projects have experienced and expert developer, they are lying! Roadmap, whitepaper, vision everything is lie in the maximum crypto project but yet people are investing in them. because no one cares about the crypto market adoption in real life, they all want to earn money by using the crypto platform. Sorry, I am being harsh, but it's true!
True words brothers.. unfortunately all crypto tech, developed by the real developers, will be stolen by huge companies and when all crypto dies, it will be used against us. You can rent VPS in seconds, you can clone Monero's wallet or QT wallet in minutes and just replace the logo you can create a few threads here and there, copy some whitepaper and change a few words, strike out a nonsense Roadmap : January: create wallet, 6 months later: update walet, another 6 months later: web wallet, another 6... mobile wallet. When hashrate drops, just turn your project to PoS and hope some other morons to follow you, Then release airdrops, bounties, etc, giving away tree leaves as if they are something This has to stop somewhere. |
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First there is an announcement, then there is 3 year Roadmap,
extended each year with meaningless additions, fake recruiting of
employees, trade interrupts, software announcements, wallet updates, changes
quizes, games, givaways, airdrops, forks, ICOs etc, etc, etc.
I've seen several coins with great tech which is perfectly quick and secure, anonymous (or not) and safe.
They all have mobile wallets and wallets for every OS.
Despite this fact they cannot be adopted. Nobody wants to use them, there is no real need for them.
A team of good programmers could develop a blockchain which can replace banks and paper money
in a month. Another month for testing and another month for setting up nodes across the globe.
The main point behind all this is: who controlls these programmers?
Voilla. it is that easy.That is why I think all these announcements and Roadmaps are bullshit.
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Can this coin be "mined" on Windows machine?
Can it be traded? Why does it exist?
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Interesting project. Never met another one like this so far. What are your future plans?
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the privacy is our focuses point, maybe we can't renounce to the things that are the fundamentals.
That are both reasons why I like this coin and I also experience doubts. Saying you will do something and stick with it (not shifting constantly as others do). But also staying very niche with private payments with no option for public ones. But as with anything, a path must be walked |
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Is this Libra connected somehow to Facebook's Libra plan, or it is just a wise name picking?
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