its working now

For some time bitcoinwisdom.com worked on my mobile phone, but now it's not working again

tested browsers: Mozzila, Dolphin browser, BoatBrowser
Android ver. 2.3.6

nice find!

actually, your post looks very similar to my own
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190722.msg4425999#msg4425999
that's quite funny sir

p.s. however I don't think this "noise" is made specially against you and to "hide" big bids. I think this "noise" is still kind of manipulation, which changing M1-M5 graphs for the purposes of big guys. Or it simply helps to understand latest bid/ask price, though I have no idea why they don't use orderbook from actual trading center.

how I understand this (correct me If I wrong):
there could be periods when there is literally no outstanding orders for 5-10$ ranges.
example:

there is buy order for 50 BTC at 820$
say, last price was 821$ so candle is at 821 currently
and then there is sell odder only at 832,77 for 1 BTC and no other sell orders below.

that way, when someone issue order "buy at market price" even as low as 0,0001 BTC, price will jump to 832,77 (huge candle in M1 graph).
then someone looks on M1 graph and think "holy shit, price just jumped on 12,77$ and I bought 30 BTC at price 821$. I want to close my order!"
and then when he closes the order, if there is no new orders appeared, order will be executed as 0.9999 BTC by price 832,77 and other 29 BTC by price 820$

am I correct?

since yesterday, charts no longer working on my phone

tested browsers:
Firefox, Dolphin browser, Boat Browser

after approaching bitcoinwisdom for any trading platofmr (gox, bitstamp, etc) I'm getting a message " Loading scripts, it will take several seconds" and get frozen like this forever

any chance of point one?

Hello,

first off, thank you for amazing tool you providing. It's really great

now, up to suggestions:

1) option to summarize up all big buys/sales so these small particles like 0,001 BTC transactions will disappear.
I'm not sure who is interested in that kind of data. Though, it should be kept for transparency,but at the separate mode.

How it can be done: either sum up all sell and buy volume (each separately) for the last 7-45 seconds, or increase minimum value to show, i.e. not show anything until value get to the 1BTC or something like that

2) change view of volume candles, so it will properly show volume for "sales" and for "buys"
as I understand now, trade considered as "sale" when result is changing ex rate to lower (or touching buy orders). And "buy" considered as buy when its changing ex rate to higher

however volume candle is quite confusing:
say, for the start of M15 candle someone  can buy 500 btc on "dry" market triggering price from 800 to 820  and if there is small order book, ex rate could actually go to 790 with like 150 BTC until end of the M15 preiod - in that way, all volume for M15 candle would be red, but actual volume was more "green".

what if we divide these two volumes within one candle and color it differently?


for example. looking for the crash at bitstamp from 18-12-2013, volume 135 000 BTC
how many btc was sold, and how many btc was bought, in terms how it's changed price?

or maybe I'm horribly misunderstanding something?

Hello guys,

I have a few questions which I think might help us all:

1) Maybe it would be little bit offtopic from your thread, but it's TA thread after all?

And in order to get quality TA you should have a proper tool for that.
What sites are you using for TA and why?

I think the best source for graphs (mostly for intraday, though) is bitcoinwisdom.com

though, there is several other projects which might be good too (but I didn't find a good use for it)
https://www.bigterminal.com/chart/currency/BTCUSD/   <- Gox based
https://bitcoinaverage.com/#USD <- average BTC price
I'll add few other sites I have from home.

Still, these sites not good enough for analyzing historical data.
I tried to use MT4 terminal from BTC-e but they seem to have own limitations as well.

Bitcoinwisdom is great for analysis, especially with it volume tool. But you should be very cautious for the volume.
If candle was red, then they color up whole volume is red, while it's actually could be quite wrong (say, for the start of M15 candle someone  can buy 500 btc on "dry" market triggering price from 800 to 820  and if there is small order book, ex rate could actually go to 790 with like 150 BTC until end of the M15 preiod - in that way, all volume for M15 candle would be red, but actual volume was more "green").

Is there a website which tracks for the consolidated  "true" volume of trades?

2) Considering short term or intraday- looking for H1 chart for bitstamp(@bitcoinwisdom) - we can see there is bunch of big red candles with big volume but price didn't get lower. For me it seems like sellers don't want to crash price but rather allow it to get higher and sell in several portions, instead of big dump.

If that's correct, then we should expect a bigger dump - cause whales want to dump some coins on a better price before actual bigger dump.

From the other hand, these volumes could be quite irrelevant in a mid term. Whats your opinion?

Hello guys, I need to get in touch with rpietila (this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520 )
since I'm a newbie and I have no idea how to get past this status, can someone summon rpietila  in this thread or kindly ask him to write me at coolstbr@gmx.com ?

it's totally not a scam, I just have few analysis things to discuss with him.
apparently, after creating a new topic, I was able to send messages. So no need to summon rpietila there.
though, maybe you find graph below is usable for you

for starters, here goes tiny reworked monthly trendline from his thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322058.0

my version which I think its easier to use, since it has more values on it.
I don't know methodology on choosing "monthly averages" though, so last value is from the top of my head - 780