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81  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here's an interesting question.... on: April 07, 2014, 11:18:38 PM
If the guy was clever enough to do this to begin with, can't see him being a huge dumbass like that when the whole security issue is harped all over the place - back ups, extra copies, not in one place, various wallets, etc.
I suppose it is possible that he has offsite backups of the wallet that the FBI have not discovered and he simply hasn't had chance (given his incarceration) to do anything with them.

From what I read, Ross had the wallet on his laptop with the "offline" money, when he was arrested by the feds (administering silk road from a coffee shop) The feds hired a UK firm to crack the wallet password, and that's how most of the money was seized.   They already had control of the silk road server before the shutdown, so it was trivial to get that wallet.
82  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Miners DUMPING their ASICs on: April 07, 2014, 12:29:16 AM
Not correct.  The bitcoin network self-adjusts to keep the creation of new bitcoin on schedule.  From an investor's point of view, the creation of new bitcoin has a known, tightly self-regulated rate of creation.
That's technically not correct either. On average 25 bitcoins are created every 10 minutes however that doesn't mean we can't find 5 blocks in 5 minutes adding 125 bitcoins in 5 minutes (Unlikely but possible). It's designed that on average it should be close to 10 minutes but that's not always true. To call it tightly regulated is a bit of an overstatement - it can be a lot quicker or a lot slower.
Compared to the decision making process behind a sovereign centralized bank currency, the rate of creation of bitcoin is much more known and tightly regulated than the creation of USD, for example.
83  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Miners DUMPING their ASICs on: April 07, 2014, 12:19:50 AM
How is it going to lower prices? Mining just slows the creation of new bitcoin...the usefulness of it and the short supply is what gives it is market value...I'd imagine it would rise since they'd be more scarce.

Not correct.  The bitcoin network self-adjusts to keep the creation of new bitcoin on schedule.  From an investor's point of view, the creation of new bitcoin has a known, tightly self-regulated rate of creation.



84  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [850 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: April 06, 2014, 12:36:54 AM
Any suggestions for how to troubleshoot this???

Are you watching the console on cgminer?   It should indicate any problems you are having with the hardware or the stratum protocol.

85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is unprofitable to mine & its not a good investment... on: April 05, 2014, 11:25:01 PM
How does someone (like me) who believes in Bitcoin and all the power/potential it has, get started into the industry?

The days of small miners making significant profits in pooled mining are probably coming to a close in a few years.   The economies of scale and efficiency will soon take over.

It's sort of the same situation with gold mining.   In 1849, you might be able to find gold nuggets in a creek in California and make a living at it.  Now, modern gold mining involves strip mining a vein of dirt with a high enough concentration of gold to make it worthwhile to refine a dump-truck full of that dirt into a bar of gold.

Before you get started, use one of the bitcoin mining calculators to figure out your potential profit running a rig.   The thing to keep in mind is that your average reward will decrease by 18% every two weeks, if the price of btc doesn't change.   The last difficulty increase was 22%, which reflects the new mining technology coming online.

I did some calculations on my Antminer S1, and if the price of BTC remains the same, I have about 20 weeks until the price of electricity exceeds the mining rewards, assuming an 18% biweekly increase in difficulty.


86  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Transaction confirmation time down on: April 05, 2014, 11:05:22 PM
OK, I thought that having 51% of the hashing power allows you to do just that and more....

Assuming that you already had 51% control of the network, and at the current rate of $3 per GH/s for modern mining equipment, it would require about 15 million USD a week to maintain 51% control.   An entity that was large enough to have the initial capital and maintain that kind of cash flow is probably not going to be in the business of defrauding retail bitcoin transactions.

87  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here's an interesting question.... on: April 05, 2014, 10:25:23 PM
That is exactly what they should do....

I'm not following the logic of why a government would want to do this.
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: F*ck China! :-) (curren situation...? on: April 05, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
Iceland? they banned bitcoin and allow auroracoin?

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According to the Central Bank of Iceland, domestic entities are not allowed to buy bitcoins from foreign entities, as such transactions are considered a capital movement out of the country. Such transactions are illegal due to the capital controls imposed in the country after the collapse of the banking system in 2008

Yieehah! So will there be a difference between domestic and foreign bitcoins? ohno! A firewall on the Bitcoin ports? Search travelers brain for brainwallets to prevent bitcoins from entering the country? Auroracoins can be traded outside of Iceland, too, that is the problem.

What a joke, they have already lost, it is like the war on drugs but 1000 times harder because there is no physical items that can be seized.  Cheesy

THEY BETTER UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD NOT BE IN THIS FUCKED UP SITUATION WITHOUT FIAT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Respectfully, I don't think you understand what happened to Iceland's banking system.   The crisis, which came to a head in 2008, happened because of deregulation of the banking system, and the people in charge of that system began buying toxic garbage bonds that were rated as AAA and created by the USA financial system.  They also got caught up in some currency trading problems with Europe during the global financial crisis (rather than investing in their own citizens).   The end result is that Iceland's banks almost collapsed, since the "collateral" no longer existed.   Citizens of Iceland were given a democratic choice, to either accept a Cyprus-style haircut, which would result in much of the money held in bank accounts to simply evaporate, or to nationalize the banks and institute capital controls to keep their currency from collapsing.

Capital controls are enforced by limiting the amount of money a citizen from Iceland can send overseas, such as transferring funds to a bitcoin exchange.  They really don't care about the bitcoins you possess.

I'm not sure what alternative to fiat you propose that they should have used, bitcoin wasn't released then, and even so, bitcoin's current market cap is less than $6 billion, less than 50% of Iceland's current GDP of $13.5 billion.
89  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here's an interesting question.... on: April 05, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
Logically those coins should be destroyed, but is there any way to prove that they are?
It is possible to "burn" coins by sending them to invalid address, just like CounterParty did.

Why all this talk of "burning" coins?   There's nothing inherently illegal about bitcoin.   It would make as much sense as for the government to burn stacks of US currency seized in a drug bust.

90  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Is Property Not Currency on: April 05, 2014, 07:29:34 PM
I am 99.9% sure the IRS has no system in place for crawling the blockchain, linking addresses to real people, or linking transaction times / amounts to bitcoin prices at that time.  Hell i doubt they even have a division formed for this.  In fact, given their reticence with virtual currencies as a whole, they are at basement level at best.

It doesn't need to.  That's why you need to keep tax records for 7 years.   You provide the records if they challenge your claims on the return.  


If the IRS has no clue how much bitcoin i am "succesfully mining" and at what market rate that bitcoin was at when it got mined out, how exactly are they going to challenge an income declaration based on evasion claims?  

The error in your thoughts about this is that it is immediately a criminal matter, as if you get arrested, thrown in jail, make bail, then let the IRS prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you violated the law.   It doesn't work this way, unless you clearly commit a crime that the IRS can prove in this manner.

The IRS begins by sending you a certified letter, claiming your return isn't matching reported amounts.  This happened to me, due to not including income from a 1099 for work done on contract.  They send you a bill with the corrected tax amount and penalties.   At this point, you can just pay it, and be done with it, like I did.

If you want to go to court and challenge the IRS findings, you get a lawyer and go to tax court.  This is a civil court, not a criminal court, and it's not "innocent until proven guilty."   If you lose, the judge issues an order that you pay.  If you don't follow the court order, then the court issues a bench warrant and you go to jail.   Proving that you didn't follow the order beyond a reasonable doubt is not a problem for the IRS.

The IRS relies on voluntary reporting, not a massive monitoring system.   If you want to cheat the government out of taxes, that's up to you.   The IRS currently examines returns at a rate of 0.7% for middle income earners.   If you cheat over 20 years, that's about a 25% chance of being caught.
91  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Is Property Not Currency on: April 05, 2014, 06:33:47 PM
I am 99.9% sure the IRS has no system in place for crawling the blockchain, linking addresses to real people, or linking transaction times / amounts to bitcoin prices at that time.  Hell i doubt they even have a division formed for this.  In fact, given their reticence with virtual currencies as a whole, they are at basement level at best.

It doesn't need to.  That's why you need to keep tax records for 7 years.   You provide the records if they challenge your claims on the return.   
92  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Africa - promised land of Bitcoin? on: April 05, 2014, 09:19:08 AM
I guess it makes intuitive sense that africa would adopt bitcoin because the existing financial system is more problematic than in rich countries so bitcoin is immediately more competitive.

After the events of 2008, where private institutional banking extorted the elected government of the United States to socialize their losses (while retaining private profits, not going to jail, giving themselves bonuses, and running scams with T-bills) incurred by selling toxic, bullshit financial instruments to the rest of the world,  I think the most problematic banking system in the world is obvious.  It's not in Africa.

93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If there's a huge drop in hash power.. on: April 05, 2014, 09:08:45 AM
Here's something to ponder, why a drop in hashrate is not likely:

Assume the current rigs composing the network hashrate were purchased at a price similar to the new rigs coming out, that is at $3 per GH/s, or $3000 per TH/s.  The actual value is much higher, considering the old technology that will still be online for a while.

Today, the network hashrate is 50,000 TH/s, which would correspond to $150 million dollars worth of new mining rigs.   95% of that is $142 million, and I don't see how you can make miners to turn off $142 million worth of equipment.

94  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If there's a huge drop in hash power.. on: April 05, 2014, 01:22:58 AM
Wouldn't that cause issues?

Like let's say, the difficulty just reset, so we have 2016 blocks to go till the next change. At the current hash power, it'll take ~ 10 minutes / block like it's supposed to.

And for whatever reason, 95% of the hash power is taken off the network (which is NOT totally unrealistic. If there's a rise in electricity costs or a decline in bitcoin prices to the point where power cost > value of bitcoins mined, a lot of ASICs will be taken offline, since even if you wanted the bitcoin, it'd be cheaper to not run the ASIC and buy the bitcoin instead). The difficulty is still the same, and will remain the same for 2016 blocks. If 95% of the GH disappears, then each block will now take 200 minutes to find on average, for the next 280 days.

Not going to happen, unless you believe in a big magic internet kill switch.   

I think it's more disturbing to think that zombie miners are out there that continue running, making money for the electric power providers and not their owners.
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Africa - promised land of Bitcoin? on: April 05, 2014, 01:04:08 AM
Africa - promised land of Bitcoin?

It makes sense to me.  Consider this, that there are many African countries that have highly mismanaged centralized banks and unstable and corrupt political leadership.   Assuming that bitcoin grows to become a significant world currency, then bitcoin would make a lot of sense in developing economies on the continent.
96  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS Bitcoin is Property - Money Laundering Allegations no longer valid? on: April 05, 2014, 12:19:02 AM
Now that the IRS has deemed bitcoin to be "property" and not "currency" surely that means that charlie shrem's & Ross Ulbricht's money laundering allegations are no longer valid?
The big point that must be decided in the law is whether bitcoin is property or currency when it comes to Nemo dat quod non habet, where stolen bitcoin could be reclaimed by the original owner even though it has gone through several bona fide owners, if it is considered property.


Could you explain this further? How would people even prove that the ownership belonged to them, besides the coins going through their wallet in the blockchain?

If you obtain coins through a documented transaction, such as an exchange, or from a legitimate seller that has no problem providing a receipt, I'm sure the courts would have no problem with this establishing ownership.

97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A little bit of perspective for all of us. A reminder for all of us. on: April 04, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
No! Actually it is a problem when you need to use Paypal or your credit car to pay for a poem on a website worth 5 cents. The transaction fees are higher than the article you want to purchase, so you are stuck with selling a poem for 99 cents. Or no one will want to pay for it. Or everyone will love it and using it for free with not even a feedback nor credits, nor a "Hello!"
Now do you remember why we were blown away by the concept of bitcoin? Why so many variations of it were created after that REVOLUTION?

Since the consensus of developers of bitcoin has made micropayments approaching 0.0001 btc impractical, there may be room for an alt coin that is more conducive to micropayments. 
98  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone else ever had Avast antivirus put a new block in quarantine?? on: April 04, 2014, 08:38:41 PM
http://wiw.org/~meta/vsum/view.php?vir=4

Apparently that's a really old virus from 1992!



It should be a false positive, I found it too, but can't believe a virus from 1992 can infect my computer ... and even less, run on a mac a win virus...

When your floppy disk drives are disabled on the 29th of the month, you will know for sure.

99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone else ever had Avast antivirus put a new block in quarantine?? on: April 04, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
http://wiw.org/~meta/vsum/view.php?vir=4

Apparently that's a really old virus from 1992!

100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much longer do you think Bitcoin will last? on: April 04, 2014, 07:59:33 PM
How much longer do you think Bitcoin will last?

2 more years?
4 more years?
10 more years?

Or will it be replaced and deemed useless by another upcoming Cryptocurrency in the next month? Voice your opinion here!

By "how much longer do you think Bitcoin will last", I mean how much longer you think it'll be the head honcho, the king, the most popular Cryptocurrency...or even relevant.

Consider how long TCP IP4 has lasted, and the resistance to IPv6 adoption.   Bitcoin will stay on top for a while.
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