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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: My btc price calculation theory and future of btc on: October 11, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Why do those "dark people" or "dark company" will risk the money that they've stolen to buy it for bitcoin with the price of $20,000?
Why not now? LOL.
You always surpises me with your theories.
You moved into this board huh. Huh

Thats the most crazy/ridiculous theory i've read.
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5 - damn... do i really need to say more?
Try to take a look to his previous theories recently, most of the time he is making theories on the Economics board.
All I can say is he is making theories out of nowhere.


Because they might want profit.
The Dark people they sell for bux to just companies who then will sell it to people or the Dark people are share holders of the legit companies so they earn legit income
But all this process not cheap for them so I guess they take btc Price Up in Order to make it worthed for them
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: My btc price calculation theory and future of btc on: October 11, 2020, 03:21:21 PM
Yes, I agree with you because recently most of the people and company are  believes that cryptocurrency . Thay want to profit more and more . recently Square Thursday it bought 4709 bitcoin, worth approximately $50 million. This is huge  movement to bitcoin. i hope bitcoin touch 14k on this year.


If they spend 50mil they want at least double profit.
The rich people Move big money Only to get more money
83  Economy / Economics / Re: Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 11, 2020, 01:25:18 PM
It's interesting that among their recent buys are 3 medical companies.: amgn, syk and abbv. Right in the year of corona they are buying stocks of companies doing medical research.
There's much more going on around us than we understand. While stupid people spend money on masks that in China cost 10% of the retail price the rest of the world has  to pay, the rich manipulate the whole governments to buy covid tests that don't work, but cost millions of dollars. A great example of such tests were Polymerase Chain Reaction tests made in Turkey.


Also Before the hotels tourism shut down they sold a las vegas stocks of hotels tourism and casino Smiley 

Anyone who is with Brain can undestood world is run by them its that Simple Smiley 
84  Economy / Speculation / My btc price calculation theory and future of btc on: October 11, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
Here it is
Its involves the big companies want profit also the big dark people who need lounder their btc Everybody want big as possible %
Right now the price of btc is 10k.

So we have here 3 main  partners.

1. The lounder bad persons.
2.  The middle-men escrow and well respected person or organisation between deal.
3.the lounder company.

I guess that the profit sharing will be 60% for middle men and loundry company / Institution*

And 40% to dark people side*

That means  the Dark people want at least to get 15k -20k If they sell it.
The middlemen 30%
The loundry company / Institution 30%

It means the btc price will go more then 20k coz
The middle men and loundry company/Institution want profit also If they buy with 20k
So they will push the price up to  35k. About then they get 60% of the 20k+ 35k


This is just theory,  as Everyone have their own Vision and opinion, what you guys think?  Smiley
85  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the big funds washing money of btc? on: October 11, 2020, 01:05:24 PM
Man just as I thought I've really been missing entertaining the questions of that nature, boom, back with a vengeance.

1. How do you "wash" money by first announcing all those corporate buys?
2. Is a few hundred million enough to launder? The sums bought so far aren't even enough for slush funds of a single politician.
3. Why choose a currency whose ledger is public and unalterable?



Look all those scams around the world and dark web activity the big companies will take some% to lounder the btc into cash depends how much is the fee to lounder I think they go 50/50 deal  so
The Dark people  want at least  15-20k per bitcoin
If they sell it
86  Economy / Economics / Re: Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 11, 2020, 10:11:24 AM
Top Rich elite rotchilds 
Its interesting they sold  casinos hotels shares just Right time

Here is what they hold, interesting

Link:  https://whalewisdom.com/filer/rothschild-investment-corp-il

Lol, it's clear you don't know what you linked to. This is not the Rothschild family's investments. This is an investment adviser named Rothschild Investment Corp. It's an SEC-registered investment adviser that caters to retail investors as well as high net worth investors, charities, pension funds and corporations. The 13F holdings you linked to are holdings the investment adviser has bought on behalf of their more than 1000 clients while rendering investment advice. Again, not the Rothschild's personal money.



Ok but where is the personal money?
87  Economy / Economics / Re: Square invests 50 million USD in BTC: instrument of economic empowerment on: October 10, 2020, 10:46:31 PM
Many people state on twitter that the 50 million have nothing to do compared with the amount that MicroStrategy invested recently, but comparisons are hateful.

I think it is really good news as it serves as an example for many other companies that may make a bold investment or just gain some awareness with these same news.

I hope many others follow their path Smiley



There is ways to know!
Are they cash out  just USA money in their pockets.
Or they turn worthless USA dollars into worthed btc.

All we need to know is who is selling them and with what money they buy it.


Conclusion: if the big guys are just Behind the square or cashpp and invest their own money then the btc will go up and USA dollar down.
If they just use squares and cashh app as middle way and they actually Don't invest but just cash out btc....

All we need to do is follow the money Simple:)
88  Economy / Economics / Re: Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 10, 2020, 10:38:18 PM
If Everybody do the same and invest same Everybody can be elite
The reality is not, we can’t all be elite or else the world will become more selfish. There should be a good balance on everything, and the Elite guys knows when to sell and buy good assets, they have to remain rich so they can live the life they used to be. Many elite rich guys invested on cryptocurrency and many of them already multiply their holdings, the only thing that we can do is to keep on learning and never give up until we reach our goals.


Yes we can copy paste their Action Smiley
We can buy arts
The Right stocks
All you have to do is to check what they do it. Smiley
89  Economy / Economics / Re: Square invests 50 million USD in BTC: instrument of economic empowerment on: October 10, 2020, 07:23:36 PM
They invested 1% of their total assets. I think this is something every CFO should be looking at, given the highly asymmetrical returns of a bitcoin investment.

It would seem to be a sensible strategy. I've been surprised that this isn't more common. Whilst big investors can have a tendency to be risk-averse, which might keep them away from bitcoin, it's also true that every investment is a gamble, so why not test the waters by buying in with at least (in percentage terms) a small position? Perhaps it's just that they don't want any negative PR from associating with what is still sometimes seen in the mainstream as a counter-cultural and even potentially criminal asset class.
IMO, isn't a surprise.
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I do agree, but I disagree on the rationale.
Now that two listed companies showed that it is possible to hold bitcoin, I guess every CFO will look at the possibility to hedge the future debasement scenario (just remember how skyrocketing the FED balance sheet went during last months).
Buying 1% of free reserve of Bitcoin would hypothetically expose to a total loss of 1% (do you really see BTC going to zero?) while exposing the firm to a potential 100X upside in the case of a debasement.
Just remember when Ray Dalio bought a put on the SPX with 1% premium? Basically the same thing, being BTC a put option on the USD.
This is a low hanging fruit waiting to be picked up.





Can translate for average person what You mean?
Are we getting Rich or not by holding btc?
That's all we want to know ;Smiley
90  Economy / Economics / Re: One of the biggest problem Now with currencies on: October 10, 2020, 03:16:24 PM
People not think and not prepare they will undestood only when Military boot will kick their ass lol Cheesy

To use brain neccessary in this world to think logically and self education, but nobody Don't Care until its too late who to blame?

Only yourself!
91  Economy / Economics / Re: Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 10, 2020, 12:10:08 AM
If you are smart enought just buy same what they buy sell what they sell cmon.. This info is publick Smiley
92  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the big funds washing money of btc? on: October 10, 2020, 12:03:18 AM
There been just so many news about dark activities with btc.
So the Dark guys have a lot btc the USA grayscale and fidelity look like perfect Place for them to dump.... But with not 10k as the btc receivers want they % too and I think at least 40%-50% so we can expecting btc to go 14-15k at least.
93  Economy / Economics / Re: Square invests 50 million USD in BTC: instrument of economic empowerment on: October 09, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
Very interesting story here, and this is really making me wonder what the hell is going on such that we've got publicly traded companies buying up bitcoin as their cash reserve.

I put SQ on my watchlist and took a look at some of their stats.  This in particular does not bode well for the long term:



A lot of companies on the NASDAQ don't pay dividends, but that P/E and the fact that it's trading at the very top of its 52-week range make me think this is one of the stocks that speculators drove up during the COVID-19 lockdown. 

But we'll see.  I'm keeping my eye on it, and thanks for posting this OP.


It look like they are slowly moving stock market capital into bitcoin.
Not Directly in btc but trhough trust funds or Something like that.

The Fiat currency is getting cheaper to fight against inflation you need to have an asset what produces income to you.

Best performance will be btc if really it goes to 50k-100k.
94  Economy / Economics / Re: Square invests 50 million USD in BTC: instrument of economic empowerment on: October 09, 2020, 06:03:32 PM
So 50k-100k btc not far?

Its a massive capital inflow ln btc now!
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: October 09, 2020, 01:48:39 PM

If it's not your BTC, then arguably it's none of your business where the money comes from.  But given that these are institutional investors, the money likely comes from wealthy individuals looking for better ROI than they might find on the stock markets.
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Just remember that the only one profiting from Grayscale are accredited investors buying shares in the primary market, that is now closed, by the way.
They might even be buying those coins with “in kind” purchases.
Basically: Grayscale is benefiting only those who already are rich, in fiat or bitcoin.



It means?  Btc to up or down? 
I think it might go down as they just dump on USA dollar the btc
96  Economy / Speculation / Are the big funds washing money of btc? on: October 09, 2020, 01:39:07 PM
Are they are going to washing money to dump btc and other cryptocurrency in USA?

Is USA going to be dumping ground for dark markets and btc scammers and whales?
That's why the Fidelity and grave scale will buy btc? 

To burry btc in USA?
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / I just discover possible reason why btc is safe heaven on: October 09, 2020, 12:35:02 PM
Let's take one year time

You buy btc Now its 10k it Can fall down like to 7k likely and then it will go Back up... Right. I
in one year time  there is high change that btc go to  10k to 15k price range.
Right Now its 10k If I buy Today in few months it Can go over 12 k as the price was like this many times.
Anyone Can see that bitcoin price is quite stable on the Long period of time.

And Right Now If you buy btc its 10k its in likely possible the price will go lower.

As strong buy price are 7k to 10k

If you Don't sell with loss the btc is best investment asset I just realised.

And Right Now we are on Economic low point and Even then the btc is 10k the price likely will go up If the economy will be better.

98  Economy / Economics / Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 09, 2020, 12:48:05 AM
Top Rich elite rotchilds 
Its interesting they sold  casinos hotels shares just Right time

Here is what they hold, interesting

Link:  https://whalewisdom.com/filer/rothschild-investment-corp-il
99  Economy / Economics / Re: One of the biggest problem Now with currencies on: October 08, 2020, 08:38:55 PM
The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.
So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?

Its Not spoken problem much but its a problem
I think first of all you are talking about Kyrgyzstan. Well it has a well defined currency Pegged at 80 Som to 1 USD. What makes you say it's a worthless currency?
What are you currently using to trade if the currency doesn't have an international rate, can you still use it?

How much is food for example on average per person per month (or how much is a kilo of sugar, flour, potatoes (or equivelant)... Etc?

What's the priblem with not being able to convert? Does no one sell usd for it?


But who will want worthless currencies? 
Actually nobody!
You don't see a world's currency value with respect to other currencies but you see it in respect to the purchasing power parity of that country. If we go by what you say 1 USD = 42000 Iranian Rial but does that makes their currency worthless? No it doesn't because the price level of the economy is adjusted accordingly and 42000 Rial would buy you pretty much the similar things that you could buy using 1 USD. You are comparing 1 ADA to 1 BTC and saying ADA is worthless. Which doesn't makes sense.



I compare with usd and eur world strongest currencies and most trusted currencies.
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enough is enough! Good bye Bitcoin! on: October 08, 2020, 04:39:02 PM
I'm fed up with all this cryptocurrency thing.

First off, I make tremendous loses due to being a newbie in this market. After a second thought (and accepting the heavy loses incurred) I decided to try again and re-invest in bitcoin, only to be told this few moments ago.

I will not risking HODLING bitcoins if they will shut down the first (and only) cryptocurrency exchange in Kuwait. As such I decided to play it safe, incur further loses, and just sold all my bitcoins and getting out of this business for good.

After all, why should I HODL my bitcoins (1.25 this time) when I can't exchange them for cash when I need them? More importantly, how will bitcoin appreciate when exchanges will close in other parts of the world?

I wish I was never introduced to Bitcoin.  Angry

Any ideas on what I should do with my Ledger Nano X now?  Roll Eyes


They do it becouse your kuwait dinar will lose value like it happens now all around the world.
So Bitcoin has more value then your own currency first They ban cryptocurrency in your Country then the next step is Block swift payments becouse no eur or usd holders will not want kuwait currency They will Come for cheap resources and cheap Land in kuwait Once the currency is de-valued.
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