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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zimstake (ZS) - NOW PURE POS - No IPO / PreMine - SHA-256 - FUN on: May 09, 2014, 08:51:13 AM
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82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Fix Released to Exchanges on: May 08, 2014, 09:47:52 PM
Having read the staking specifications again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595999.msg6547116#msg6547116

How old do coins need to be before they stake?
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Fix Released to Exchanges on: May 08, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
Is anyone else still mining in the multipool?


I am yes
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Fix Released to Exchanges on: May 07, 2014, 10:32:11 PM
When the new wallet is released... What is the risk of someone using the old wallet. Will the old wallet stop working?
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Hard Fork and Voiding Pre-Mine on: May 07, 2014, 10:21:25 PM
a review from somebody independent, somebody who doesn't have a personal benefit if this turns out as another scam would be helpful.

Now this, I absolutely agree with!

Behind the scenes the foundation has been reaching out to developers to independently audit and verify.  We are even putting a bounty behind it.

Currently the independents who have reviewed this are:
  - Adriano dev from COMM coin.
  - Mullick from Cryptsy
  - Developer from BTER

Maestro has been reaching out to rat4 and CINNI developer as well.  

We absolutely need more independent auditing of the code, from people that have no benefit.  We need more stress testing, negative/whitebox testing.

I have advised that the exchanges do NOT open until this happens.. I recommend 1 week.


I encourage everyone to help find people to review and test the code.  The foundation will pay out bounties (as we can afford it.. but hey we don't have much now).. to assist.

Having been done in in both SHAcoin and AsiaCoin I posted on this exact subject today. Some views but no replies so I don't really know how the community feels about the suggestions.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599055.0
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Fix Released to Exchanges on: May 07, 2014, 10:14:18 PM
Great work, great new team, great goals, GREAT COIN !!! Grin

Come on AsiaCoin  Cool



Yea, u can also go back to Panda coin if u liked be scamed once again.

Dude you missed the 'kick the asiacoin community while they are down' party. That was last week.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ALT coin confidence check list on: May 07, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
Over the past few months I have come to love and also hate some ALT coins. I have made some money and also lost some on scam coins.
With the latest fiasco with hidden premined coins I realized that there is no way for the average interested person to know if a coin is a risk or an opportunity. Hype and the community as a whole surrounding a coin is not always helpful. What we need is a guideline or measuring mechanism to gauge safety of a new coin.

As with free speech it would be voluntary for any coin dev to adhere to the guidelines for new coins but if we as an ALT coin community lay down what we would like to see from a new coin before it is released then we will likely see the scammers avoiding any check and balances and the honest devs happy to tick as many boxes as they can. This will help us make a more informed decision whether to jump in or not.

I do not intend to run with this as a project but hopefully get a discussion started and get interested parties involved.

Parties that stand to benefit from a set guideline for creating a new ALT coin: Exchanges, miners, traders, honest developers and the ALT coin reputation as a whole

Parties that will NOT benefit: scammers!

Suggestions:

Tick box 1: Independent code review and wallet builds.
I would suggest that a few well respected developers make their services available to ALT coin developers. This should be a pool of developers that have been part of the community and have a proven record of reliable coin development. NDAs might be required to protect the coin devs IP until full source is released. I would expect there to be a cost involved for the coin dev.
  • Code should be cloned for review and all initial releases should be done from this clone. The original coin dev should not have permissions to modify on this repository
  • Code reviews need to be done prior to a coin release. This will also mitigate the risk of late launches as the dev should not still be coding and compiling minutes before a coin is released.
  • Initial wallet builds should be made available by the independent code reviewer not the coin dev. Post links to password protected files and let the coin dev release the password on launch. This should also ensure that there will be both a Windows and MAC wallet at launch.
  • Pools need to get the initial source from the git clone that the code reviewer created for the code review not from the coin developer’s repository.

With a coin being code reviewed by someone that we as a community trust and respect I believe we will all have some confidence that a coin does not have any badness in it from the start. No hidden premines or viruses. It also gives coin devs a second pair of eyes to find any bugs they could have missed.
Exchanges will likely have a lot more confidence in a coin that was independently reviewed and could possibly help with earlier listings. Exchanges could jump in here as this is a major benefit to them as well.

Tick box 2: Any IPO is held in escrow.
The actual properties of a coin is up to a dev to decide. If their coin is to have 50% premine and distributed to investors then so be it. It is their coin and they can set the parameters of their coin as they wish. There should however be safety for investors in the form of an escrow.
Add your own tick boxes you would like to see from new coin devs. Remember this is not a thread about coin properties and should not be a discussion about whether all coins should have POS or not. This is about the checks and balances that we as a community would like from new coins to give us a measurable confidence that a coin is not a scam.

I am sure we can grow the list of "Tick boxes" we would like to see for new coin releases.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SOV Sovereign SHA256 6.79billion PoS 144mil PoW on: May 06, 2014, 11:07:55 PM
Sovereign is in the news! http://altcoinherald.com/sovereign-new-sha256-pos-altcoin-100-staking/  Grin

"The future cannot be predicted but it seems likely that Sovereign will be fighting an uphill battle to attract miners, exchanges, supporters, and merchants."

Quoted from your article.

What's the point of making such a bold statement, other than to antagonise, if you are not going to at least back it with some insight into what led you to that conclusion.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Hard Fork and Voiding Pre-Mine on: May 06, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
Got my 1 AC back! woohoo Smiley
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Hard Fork and Voiding Pre-Mine on: May 06, 2014, 10:47:54 PM
Thanks, received 105.11 AC from various folks.. now to test sending back.. what are your addresses (sorry block explorer is down and too lazy to check every transaction ID.. Smiley)


!(Yes please, I insist you send my 1 AC back) Smiley

Seriously guys, i want to send it back for test purposes.. Wink


Ah ok Smiley AGPxFN6ZVdGYf8i6PdWpzWRKD1z455AKtS
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Hard Fork and Voiding Pre-Mine on: May 06, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
Thanks, received 105.11 AC from various folks.. now to test sending back.. what are your addresses (sorry block explorer is down and too lazy to check every transaction ID.. Smiley)


!(Yes please, I insist you send my 1 AC back) Smiley
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] Official Asia Coin Revival | Hard Fork and Voiding Pre-Mine on: May 06, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
For anyone that wants to help me test "the happy path", you can send me a coin to this client using your existing client.  Address: AT1hm5R4JSjkHsDcscsLb6co3oJ2JZft6Z

Sent 1 AC as requested. Looks fantastic!
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin Poll - 2014/05 on: May 06, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
Could you add ZimStake(ZS) to the list? POW+POS very active community and a star dev. IMHO a coin to keep your eyes on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583591.0
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AC] AsiaCoin Reverse-Scam | Hard Fork and Patch on: May 05, 2014, 08:19:54 AM
What I never liked of AC is that has a very high interest rate in the first year, And this will bring down its price in the medium and long term! With 5 % is OK! Wink

If you can change that too much better! Smiley

Already there are enough coins over with hidden premine sold!


yes POS rewards *will* be adjusted via patch , and hard fork..

shouldn't the PoS mining rewards remain intact. 100% interest first year is one of the few reasons why i bought AC.

Exactly, Fix the coin but preserve the original specifications.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]AsiaCoin v2 [AC2] - PoS on: May 04, 2014, 03:15:09 PM
Has it been confirmed that none of the premined coins moved from the address it was mined to? If it did move it might complicate things. If it never moved then it is an easy win.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AC]AsiaCoin - Relaunch on: May 04, 2014, 02:13:43 AM

Added a few names, including you milan74.

The list is growing. Please let me know so I can add your name to the

list. I lost tons of money in AC and would like this to be fixed. The

list so far:


AsiaCoin holders who wants to see a fix:

CryptoSteam
Nicolaas.R
silencesilence
bluebit25
WildChaser777
istop08
GröBkAz
Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc)
hrt
cjp007
kache
minuchi.str
amit2007gunjan
noobthegreat
EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself)
Maestro1
Xuorc
probrian
artem6662
Shkembe
Wolden
probrian
bittcoinn
voisina
jarserk
dirtypolecat
masterboy
nin7672
syrota
AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin)
Alpinist (200K AC)
Gambiman
Deathtoallptots (130K AC)
goldmann
bitsta (Lost 25 BTC)
ra1nb0wdash (Lost 3 BTC)
ApoloTwo (lost 10BTC or 20 BTC on it ( i am not sure). )
georgeblair (680K AC)
minuchi.str (Lost 17 BTC)
BitcoinStacker
crypto_bull (700K AC)
Maestro1 (1 Million AC)
Final
nekokenny (49660 AC)
CycleSurfer360
tarzanbigcity
gaazje
milan74 (5K AC)


Add me please
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Pandacoin (PND) thread - Second chapter [Multipool | Scrypt | KGW | 0% PREMINE] on: May 04, 2014, 01:54:15 AM
Asiacoin address: AGPxFN6ZVdGYf8i6PdWpzWRKD1z455AKtS

Balance: 14072.963154

Proof: H5OvkonULN5KC8NHJTcafyoQSEyGW9FmQewIudgdcB4Q8DwAEy9nL1r+JwkrkwaPkmIdxgXTLSbYQYg227vnRvk=

Pandacoin (PND) wallet address: PQEfHUQ6bhj4X8UzBkR8EpwtWjuc8erZhP


Thank you guys!

EDIT: Fixed user name
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AC]AsiaCoin - Relaunch on: May 03, 2014, 09:10:53 PM
ok, thank you for your answers.

I now understand what happened.

Just my opinion: I have seen several 51% attacks in other coins, which finally survived.
The 51%-attack isn't the problem if the developers create a checkpoint and handle it appropriate.
And exchanges even re-enabled such coin for trade afterwards.

But the huge premine is a new problem never seen in any other coin, as much as I can remember.
The survival of AC depends on whether the devs can handle these premined coins in a approriate manner ....
We will see what the announced AC ver2 will bring to us ....

Same thing, same code, happened to SHA coin and killed it.

Was it the same thing that happened to SHA?

I believe the code was cloned from SHA. It was mentioned in #ProjectZIM earlier. CryptoGir tried to save SHA after the dev vanished and found the badness. He then started ZS(ZimStake)


99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AC]AsiaCoin - Relaunch on: May 03, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
ok, thank you for your answers.

I now understand what happened.

Just my opinion: I have seen several 51% attacks in other coins, which finally survived.
The 51%-attack isn't the problem if the developers create a checkpoint and handle it appropriate.
And exchanges even re-enabled such coin for trade afterwards.

But the huge premine is a new problem never seen in any other coin, as much as I can remember.
The survival of AC depends on whether the devs can handle these premined coins in a approriate manner ....
We will see what the announced AC ver2 will bring to us ....

Same thing, same code, happened to SHA coin and killed it.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AC]AsiaCoin - Relaunch on: May 03, 2014, 04:49:42 PM
mintpal:

"Error!
Could not successfully generate a deposit address, please try again."

This should conclude something..

It could also mean you should just try again. i got the same message refreshed and it worked. panic slooooowly.
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