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Is any of the RBE crowd interrested in answering my concerns about the function of pricing mechanism or do you folks want to sling accusations of irrationality around all week?
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 I guess the state has a monopoly on all liberty-oriented figures now. LOLOL! Brilliant point! |
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I heard about this experiment where they found out that when told there is no such thing as freewill people tend to act less like nice people....
Lostya man... |
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If money is such a terrible idea, why did it emerge in the first place? What purpose did it serve?
You can ask that about anything You can, if you can not find a good answer then maybe it was a terrible idea. Pricing however was the basis for the accurate prediction of the end of the soviet empire. |
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Pricing attached opinionated value metrics to materials, goods or services based on perceived relative worth, desirability or necessity. It is usually easier to do this when there is an agreed upon currency scale that can be used across distance, culture and time. This system hinges on the currency in which it is valued in and the entity who enforces its use, and therefor subject to abuse, waste and increasingly negative consequences.
Specifically "and the entity who enforces its use" OK, previously you agreed money was emergent. If I wasn't clear, let me clarify I meant, money existed in a stable form before governments began enforcing it, do you agree? Also do you agree that the opinion of whether I want a $5 latte even when a cheaper alternative is available, it is still my right to expend my resources on an overpriced item if I so choose? Cult or no cult, the issue of the pricing mechanism is absolutely key to this whole issue. If pricing is truly the appendix of societal behaviour then the RBE view is correct. So again; *Is the money naturally emergent or only due to enforcement? (Question to follow on this one) *Do I have the right to misspend my own resources on what someone else deems irrational expenditures? |
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Give me any reason these socio-paths we've elected won't do this as they worsen everyone's economic situation?
Because they don't really care about this? Bernard von NotHaus was arrested for running an operation much, much smaller than Bitcoin is becoming. |
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After reading about what happened to Bernard von NotHaus, I think the government is going to label all libertarian minded people "global anarchist terrorists bent on sending the world into chaos"
Gavin Andreson will be rounded up, tortured in some 3rd world country and will end up in Gitmo. Whether he's libertarian or not will not matter, clearly he's responsible. Satoshi will move to the federal government's no.1 most wanted and ten years after that they'll kill some poor Japanese American IT professional and proclaim "victory!".
Give me any reason these socio-paths we've elected won't do this as they worsen everyone's economic situation?
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Pricing attached opinionated value metrics to materials, goods or services based on perceived relative worth, desirability or necessity. It is usually easier to do this when there is an agreed upon currency scale that can be used across distance, culture and time. This system hinges on the currency in which it is valued in and the entity who enforces its use, and therefor subject to abuse, waste and increasingly negative consequences.
Specifically "and the entity who enforces its use" OK, previously you agreed money was emergent. If I wasn't clear, let me clarify I meant, money existed in a stable form before governments began enforcing it, do you agree? Also do you agree that the opinion of whether I want a $5 latte even when a cheaper alternative is available, it is still my right to expend my resources on an overpriced item if I so choose? |
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Price mechanism, price mechanism, price mechanism!
RBE folks please explain to me if you think money is emergent (naturally occurring)?
And if so what fundamental problem does it solve?
Everything is emergent, as we live in an emergent universe. Money has outlived its usefulness, as it was developed in response to real or perceived scarcity, along with the development of early forms of government and society. We currently enjoy a highly technical society that can produce far greater resources for people through the full use of our technical and scientific capabilities. Unfortunately, the dominant monetary system and associated institutions resist such progress due to distorted values. Money is no longer needed, as its current dominant function is to deny people what they need to survive if they fail to have enough of it. A resource based economy requires that we learn what resources we have available on this planet and use them intelligently to provide a higher quality of life than the richest people enjoy today. Without such knowledge of our current resource availability, we are left with a flawed monetary system and a wasteful, destructive and abusive pricing mechanism that is functioning only to improve its own arbitrary and irrelevant metrics at the expense of human life and ecological stability. Let me phrase the question like this "What problem does (or did in your view) the pricing mechanism solve?" Please focus on only that question as I am aware that you believe mankind is now at the point where you believe we can function without a pricing mechanism. |
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"-" unless you are living in one of about 3 countries on earth I want to guarantee you that your government is also overreaching itself.
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Atlas there is an objective part of reality Ayn Rand chose not to see and hid it behind reason and intellectualism. Individuals have a moral obligation to look after other and love one another, though she was right that people could not be forced to do so or enslaved to do so.
I totally agree she should have pulled social security having been forced to pay into it.
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Price mechanism, price mechanism, price mechanism!
RBE folks please explain to me if you think money is emergent (naturally occurring)?
And if so what fundamental problem does it solve?
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hmmm, I think that's what a lot of folks are doing, this is more relevant to those who mine and sell immediately.
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OK, if you advocate the scientific method, what has recent history taught us happens when we destroy the pricing mechanism?
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OK, so 50% of miners would join a 3 day strike....
I think it would have a compound effect on market volume (since the same BTC circulates more than once) but I don't know how long it would take to see that effect.
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The more I get to do with it the more I wonder if namecoin was as well thought out as bitcoin...
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I would like to ask the RBE (Resource based economy) crowd the following;
Do you recognise that money is originally emergent and not enforced?
(Meaning something, gold, silver, shells, salt, massive stones, automatically becomes money without govt decree)
If you agree it is emergent then what purpose do you think money plays in an economy? In other words what problem did it solve?
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There's a little differance though as running a Botnet is against the will of the PC owners and probably also against law of most countries  True it's a millionth of a taste though of what compition in the future will be like :-) |
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