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81  Other / Off-topic / Re: Interstellar 10/10 on: February 23, 2015, 09:15:05 PM
Am I just being stupid or is that a paradox?
If he doesn't get the coordinates to NASA, he doesn't go to NASA. He doesn't go to NASA, he doesn't go to space. He doesn't go to space, he doesn't send NASA's coordinates to the past. He doesn't send NASA's coordinates to the past, he doesn't go to NASA.


Yes that is the paradox, it arises from linear time, where one event must precede the other. In non linear time, events can exist at the same time.

An analogy is 2d and 3d. If you are an ant  in a glass and are limited to the ground plane, you are trapped. If you are a smart ant, and are aware of a third orthogonal dimension, you can escape the spatial trap by taking advantage of it.

The idea is the the future humans, aliens, etc...have discovered this orthogonal time dimension, or multiple dimensions.
82  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Basic Stupidity of the Idea of Evolution on: February 23, 2015, 09:09:49 PM
It seems to me you are saying, humans, plants, animals are code (dna)

But what is the compiler?

Ugg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA

This isn't new people.
83  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: February 19, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
Other than that, there is a lot of propaganda hollering by a bunch of people who don't know anything at all, or who are out to deceive others for the sake of money.

Absolutely. I had a bunch of them knocking on my door about a week ago. As soon as the door was open religion started spewing out of their mouths. "You should be doing this. You should be doing that." Oh dear, they was quickly sent away.
The saddest part of all was they forced some boy (7 or 8 years old, their son I presumed) to wear a bowtie and come with them. Poor kid was totally brainwashed into oblivion.


That's right. Religious propaganda is almost as bad as science propaganda. The Bible is solid. Go there and learn how to be saved for everlasting life.

Smiley

Never had a scientist knocking on my door telling me what I should be doing.
84  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Nextgencoin ran away claiming it was late. His post history with ranting about computer nerds, damn FED, mainstream media cnbc, and gold leads me to believe he is a paranoid uneducated American praise the lord and pass the ammunition type person. It is at most 430pm where he is, and I conclude he has conceded his argument



Praise the FSM
85  Other / Off-topic / Re: Indefinite Life: Relative Immortality on: February 19, 2015, 09:19:19 PM
I think that the answers resides in telometers .



Yes I agree, but there isn't much a person can do about that.
86  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
Well in the bible...

Which translation? The King James version, which you think is the only one to exist, 1611, that pretty recent for a revision. God fucked up the original? Omnipotent supreme being needs editors and rewrites?
87  Other / Off-topic / Re: Best Guitarist ever ? on: February 19, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
dimebag
88  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
89  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: February 19, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
The Bible is solid.

Smiley

http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
90  Other / Off-topic / Re: Indefinite Life: Relative Immortality on: February 19, 2015, 09:09:45 PM
Your physical body is irrelevant ..
Longevity is all about preserving your brain/soul in a more permanent package ..
Soon, we'll all have the option of becoming "Data" ..
Android body loaded with your brain/soul ..

Triff .. 

But would that android really be you? It would behave like you. It would have the same memories. But let's say the process isn't destructive. Both your original body and mind remain and a number of androids can then be built. Are you all of them?

I have considered this, and even with current attempts at quantum teleportation, only a copy is created, the original is destroyed. Unless my brain is in the android, it's not me. I have also read about nano bots slowly replacing cells until the entire structure is electronic. In that case, I think an argument could be made that the person is still intact.
91  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 08:58:58 PM

Are you on crack? Seriously we are debating the origins of the Universe and you are comparing the originator or the BigBang as in the same realm as the source of Lightening. Seriously if you want a debate lay off the dumbjuice.

The Babylonians predated the Abrahamic God? Seriously? More crack. You are saying the origins of something are dated from the time we have recorded sources. Shit. So I guess Oxygen which was only 'discovered' and recorded was when Oxygen was started. Before we all simply died within a few minutes. In the words of Homer Simpson Dohhh!

Anymore embarrassing statements and you are dismissed from this adult debate.
So you need to be on crack to understand the most basic logic analysis? What else should you use in order to date any myth and religion but its recorded sources? Its own claim taken own face value? If yes, then there were buddhas billions of years before your god created your world, and you lose spectacularly.

He cant follow a simple analogy, that before scientific discover all natural phenomena was based on a deity.



I got he was making an analogy, what I said was it was a ridiculous one to make. 

You are arguing the god of the gaps fallacy. Study the smallest bit of history or philosophy and you will see this argument made countless times. Aristotle's prime mover. Are you more clever than he was?

The analogy applies and was simple enough that all other posters understood it.
Here's how it works.

Natural phenomena lighting - > without known causal agent - > god
Natural phenomena lighting - > with known causal agent - > static electricity
Natural phenomena inflation theory - > without known causal agent - > god

This is where we are now.

You may find this link useful
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/linguistics-and-philosophy/24-241-logic-i-fall-2009/
92  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 08:46:17 PM

Are you on crack? Seriously we are debating the origins of the Universe and you are comparing the originator or the BigBang as in the same realm as the source of Lightening. Seriously if you want a debate lay off the dumbjuice.

The Babylonians predated the Abrahamic God? Seriously? More crack. You are saying the origins of something are dated from the time we have recorded sources. Shit. So I guess Oxygen which was only 'discovered' and recorded was when Oxygen was started. Before we all simply died within a few minutes. In the words of Homer Simpson Dohhh!

Anymore embarrassing statements and you are dismissed from this adult debate.
So you need to be on crack to understand the most basic logic analysis? What else should you use in order to date any myth and religion but its recorded sources? Its own claim taken own face value? If yes, then there were buddhas billions of years before your god created your world, and you lose spectacularly.

He cant follow a simple analogy, that before scientific discover all natural phenomena was based on a deity. And yes the origins of myth are dates from their historical records. Deities are not natural phenomena, the are myth. They all necessarily can't exist simultaneous, by definition of omnipotence, hence, logically, all are wrong.
93  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 08:40:22 PM


Seriously name another religion that predicted something would happen hundreds of years later and it did.

None. I win.
94  Other / Off-topic / Re: Indefinite Life: Relative Immortality on: February 19, 2015, 07:10:21 PM
Quality of life has strong correlations to mitochondrial function and density. Investigate methods to improve these and investigate electron transport chain decoupling to reduce oxidation.



Here is a list of references...

Berneburg, M, et al, "Creatine supplementation normalizes mutagenesis of mitochondrial DNA as well as functional consequences," J Invest Dermal, 2005 Aug:125(2):213-20.

Chilibeck, PD, "The effect of strength training on estimates of mitochondrial density and distribution throughout muscle fibres," Eur J Appl Physiol Occup Physiol, 1999 Nov-Dec;80(6):604-9.

Chowanadisai, W., et al, "Pyrroquinoline quinone stimulates mitochondrial biogenesis through cAMP response element-binding protein phoshphorylation and increased PGC-1 alpha expression," J. Biol Chem, 2010, Jan 1;285(1):142-52.

Faloon, William, "Our Aging Mitochondria," Life Extension, February 2011, pp. 7-13.

Lagouge, Marie, "Resveratrol Improves Mitochondrial Function and Protects against Metabolic Disease by Activating SIRT1 and PGC-1," Cell 127, 1109-1122, December 15, 2006.

Lane, Nick, "Power, Sex, and Suicide – Mitochondria and the Meaning of Life," Oxford University Press, New York, 2005.

Luoma, TC, "Luoma's Big Damn Book of Knowledge," Punjab Publishers, Lahore, 2011.

Mortensen SA, et al, "Coenzyme Q10: clinical benefits with biochemical correlates suggesting a scientific breakthrough in the management of chronic heart failure," Int J Tissue React. 1990;12(3):155-62.

Petersen, Courtney M., et al, "Skeletal Muscle Mitochondria and Aging: A Review," Journal of Aging Research Volume 2012 (2012), Article ID 194821.

Rucker, Robert, "Potential Physiological Importance of Pyrroloquinoline Quinone," Alternative Medicine Review, Volume 14, Number 3, 2009.

Sinha, A, et al, "Improving vitamin D status of vitamin D deficient adults is associated with improved mitochondrial function in skeletal muscle," J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2013 Mar;98(3):E509-13.

Tanaka H, Swensen T, "Impact of resistance training on endurance performance. A new form of cross-training?" Sports Med. 1998 Mar;25(3):191-200.

Tesch PA, "Skeletal muscle adaptations consequent to long-term heavy resistance exercise," Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise [1988, 20(5 Suppl):S132-4].

Yu JJ, et al, "Mitochondrial function score combined with Gleason score for predicting the progression of prostate cancer," Zhonghua Nan Ke Xue, 2010 Mar;16(3):220-2.

Zorov, DB, et al, "The Mitochondrion as Janus Bifrons, Biochemistry (Moscow), Vol. 72, No. 10, 2007.
95  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 07:03:43 PM

Big Bang is only a theory that doesn't explain everything but it does explain a lot.

Gravity is only a theory. Quantum mechanics, what powers your laptop, is only a theory...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory



Who or what instigated the Big Bang?



Obviously....

Ask where lighting came from 2500 years ago and you'll get an equally ridiculous answer.

Ask the Babylonians and they'll tell you Mardok killing Tiamat was the big bang. That predates the Abrahamic god. Shouldn't it be more valid?

96  Other / Off-topic / Re: Your favorite video games of all time on: February 19, 2015, 06:17:04 PM
Mine is Final Fantasy is my all-time favorite..

1 right? I'm torn between ff1 and secret of mana. ff1 was orders of magnitude more advanced than the other games at the time..try playing super mario or Castlevania, or even Contra, and then ff1. It's gigantic. It took me years to finally beat it.
97  Other / Off-topic / Re: the key to patience? on: February 19, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
Age,
waiting a year doesn't seem so long anymore
98  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 19, 2015, 06:12:35 PM

Big Bang is only a theory that doesn't explain everything but it does explain a lot.

Gravity is only a theory. Quantum mechanics, what powers your laptop, is only a theory...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

99  Other / Off-topic / Re: Your favorite video games of all time on: February 18, 2015, 09:36:40 PM
100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bank hacks on: February 18, 2015, 07:46:48 PM
Bank hacks are not that worrying. Depositors are insured for a start. Secondly, bank transfers are reversible. Hackers can steal account balances all they want, they are shifting numbers around. The difficult bit is to withdraw cash to make the money untraceable. Accounts will be are frozen when banks sees large abnormal transfers and hackers are left with nothing.

Bitcoin is different. You can leave the coins in an address and no one can touch them. When the time comes, breakup the coins into tiny amounts , mix them and they are as good as new.

Read the stories, atms were programmed to dump cash at specific times of day, without an atm card. You can't reverse that.
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