the mainstream platforms are Bitfinex and Poloniex
If you are looking for leveraged buys/sells with margin, you can checkout whaleclub.io
Bitfinex are unregulated and there's no way of getting fiat in or out there. Poloniex might freeze you for months and not tell you why. Whaleclub has had multiple accusations of fraud against it. but if you dont have fiat, dont they not ever ask you to verify your ID? |
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ill give you an example.
I am logged in to yobit trying to get my stuff off of there to move on.
To create a yobit code, you have to be logged in. then you go to that spot... and have to do the stupid captcha for each code. Even if you dont close the window between them
Did they think after the first one you are not human anymore? I see things like this more and more... I just dont get it...
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Don't think so. It's like 10-15 seconds for you, but it provides extraordinary safety for us, users of this forum
ok, so you think its ok that once you are logged in, you should have to pass that again every time you post a message? |
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Anyone else think that captcha is being done WAY too much? I mean, I get it if you want to log in to a site... they use it there. Sorta... it isnt like there are sites that use it with 0 reason behind it...
but you go to do something after you are logged in, you get hit with it. Click the stupid cars and such... then... if you do the same thing again, they want you to do it again. Is there really a purpose or
do the websites do this just to be as annoying as possible?
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I am leaving yobit for greener pastures, but I have lots of small amounts of stuff in there.
I run in to a problem were a few things are not sold because there is less than 0.00010000 value in them.
I see people making trades all the time for tiny amounts over and over, so I know it can be done, but how would I do this?
I don't you can trade tiny amounts on yobit just like any other exchange out there. And i think those you've seen are just left over from other people who trade a normal amount required. Anyway, congratulations on leaving the one of the worst exchanges out there. Better find other exchanges like Bittrex that you can trust. Yea I see the bots buying 1 coin at a time for like 20 sat at times... so I know there is a way to do it |
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I am leaving yobit for greener pastures, but I have lots of small amounts of stuff in there.
I run in to a problem were a few things are not sold because there is less than 0.00010000 value in them.
I see people making trades all the time for tiny amounts over and over, so I know it can be done, but how would I do this?
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I had still no problems with yobit, but their are many coins that have problems with withdrawels.
And no indication there will be a problem till you try to withdraw and it gets stuck. Great system :-) |
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thanks for the info all. I will start moving stuff around to see what I can do.
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So at this point, I see bad things coming for yobit, with all the withdrawal problems, the non existent customer service... I got banned from chat for some unknown reason,
and there is no point in opening a ticket to ask why, as its a 2 week process if you get a reply at all...
Where do you all trade?
Every time I see anyone talking about an exchange I hear 10 people saying that one sucks, and you will get ripped off and i told you so...
Now is the big chance... what is a good exchange I can move to?
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can anyone give me some advice, BigVern/cryptsy said that the servers where " wiped" now i checked my wallet in the blockchain and found out my digibyte coins were transferred after the so called wipe, they were transferred a few times and are now located on the Poloniex servers
is there any change i can make a lawsuit against poloniex, demanding my coins back, i have evidence, besides that these are stolen coins
please let me know thanks
So, heres the thing with that... How do you know it wasnt the lawyer moving the funds to be liquidated for the overall sum of monies collected? If the law office took and moved the coins to poloniex they are not stolen, and are being sold for cash to pay off all the creditors. Talk to silverman law office and see what they can tell you about those coins. I can say tho even if they recovered them, you will not get them back yourself. Too many people lost coins, and if they were recovered they would be sold and the money added to the general fund. |
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When will justice reach the level at which people get a FULL repair of what they lost to the crime?
That would be right after never. |
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As the person sending the coins to show you on the blockchain the funds are being processed. A random screenschot can indeed be photoshopped, and you would never know. I have used coinbase to exchange things many times, and have had no issues with them myself. I know others have.
Unless the transaction shows up on the blockchain, blame the sender first, let them take it up with coinbase on your behalf.
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Bit embarrased to go into the detail mate. Why the heck would anyone yell out that they found a confirmed scam and that they themselves have been the victim if it wasnt true? Nothing bloody pretty about losing over $30k pal, nothing pretty at all, what a stupid thought.
Now your tryng to tell me that it needs to be a acertain format otherwise you wont accept its a legit scam??? Hey, tell you what brightness, go and buy one of their non existant machines and come back to this thread and tell me how its running for you. Guarantee youll change your handle to "Scamsucks".
So after I cought them out for steeling my money, this was her responce;
Omg Sir, we will deliver your product, no worries .
Best regards,
Jeong Lee
Online Marketing Manager
+1 305-203-6542
223 East Flagler Street, Miami, Florida 33131
HMiners Techologies Inc.
Thats a "Copy and paste" from my email, soz for not submitting the whole thing but im not putting my details up.
Anyhow, I then told her "If you are true Jeong Lee, I would rather a refund please.
Your site speaks of a full refund opportunity, will you be true in this regard?
My wallet address is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Her exact responce;
"I will go in heaven after i spend your money no worries."
There was more dialogue after that but its not fit for public consumption.
HMINERS IS A CONFIRMED SCAM!!!!
Check out there website properly, I was stupid enough not to, dont follow my money-hungry lead with your eyes shut. Open your eyes and think that if you dont do this right its going to cost you a bucket.
If you still dont believe and want more proof, spare me the stupid "pretty post" crap and buy one of their machines. Do it for us all and then send emails to all the Legit websites like Yahoo, Digital Journal, Wall Street Online etc and tell them they have theives advertising on their websites and stealling thousands of dollars from idiots like you and me.
Ive tried doing just that, no responce.
I tried Federal Police in Aus, they cant do a thing.
I tried ACORN, nothing!
Not expecting money back, just trying to stop other people getting scammned like me. So I'm pretty pissed off at stupid comments like yours SS! Like you need MY bloody confirmation in a sweet layout, nothing sweet about yelling out "FIRE" in a burning building is there? You wont be putting up 'post it notes' on everyones door will you? Or going back to your room and drafting a nice neatly tryped and doubles spaced letter and send it by courier to confirm it gets there will you? idiot.
HMINERS IS A SCAM, dont want to believe me, I couldnt care less, your problem there pal, JUST WARN EVERYBODY ELSE that they might lose their pants buying from them.
Hope thats clear enough, even if not "pretty" enough.
predig
The point is you have not shown anyone a legit scam at all. I am not in the market for buying a miner, so it wont apply to me anyway, but really... how do we know from what you posted you are not the owners ex lover trying to ruin the company? Or a competitor? Or just strung out on bath salts. You posted the thread (I assume) to warn others about a potential scam. As a new member, with 0 credibility, you would have to go a bit further to convince anyone anything happened. I used the word pretty to describe the post, not the scam. Without anything to go on its just words on the internet. Let me sum my whole point on this subject up in a nutshell... Do you take a random stranger on the internet at their word? This group wants to stop scams from stealing money... but you need to work with it to get anything out of it. Unless you are willing to back it up in some way this thread should be deleted. Either way, im out of this one. the OP is angry with me over my choice of words, even if the point was clear and correct. |
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Any chance you might want to elaborate on what happened? I mean the thread is pretty and all... but without some sort of info its not really worth posting
How can a scam be a pretty thing? I detest all this thievery and conning. It's because of a never ending coming and going of naive victims that these scams thrive and flourish. These scammers know there will always be one out there whom they can con within minutes. Even 1 out of 10 is a good failure/success ratio for them. People interested in mining should really educate themselves before investing a ton of money on these expensive rigs. Due diligence. Lots of it. Take your time to check and research your sources carefully. Don't let the excitement of quickly getting those rigs tempt you to send thousands of dollars to websites or people who promise to deliver them to your door before 9 AM tomorrow. Scammers will say, do and promise anything to lure you to send money ASAP! Cause this isnt a scam as far as we can tell. There was nothing posting about: Who we are talking about What was stolen Where the proof of any of this is when did this scam take place Why should we believe any of it. Try it this way: What happened:: Scammers Profile Link: Reference Link: Amount Scammed: Payment Method: Proof of Payment: PM/Chat Logs: Additional Notes: Tell everyone what happened. Otherwise this is just another pretty post |
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Any chance you might want to elaborate on what happened? I mean the thread is pretty and all... but without some sort of info its not really worth posting
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I see lots of these threads about online casinos. I dont know how anyone trusts any of them
First, if you create more than one account, you are more than likely breaking the rules.. there exists a method to see that more than one account was created from the same ip, and the same browser... why do the casinos allow it in the first place? If this casino can see that then the new account should not have been created at all... The casino is just as responsible in my no so humble opinion.
Asking for verification is stupid after the fact. If you dont care who I am when I deposit cash, you cant care when I go to withdraw it.
The fact that there is some licencing questions about the casino in question just makes this worse. I did however notice that the casino didnt respond to that point... handing pout your personal details to them is risky at best, as now they are claiming he cheated, are accused of stealing money and have your personal details.
Online gambling like this is against us law as far as I remember... so if (when) they screw you over its really hard to get help from the authorities.
I kinda agree that breaking the rules openly is a bad plan. Did you have more than one account and claim bonuses on more than one account?
The moral is dont gamble at these shady places in the first place. Check to see if they have a licence. Check the whois on the domain. Contact them directly to see if that is a valid phone number.
Just my thoughts...
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I would call the company directly. If you cant get Peter smith at the number listed below, contact icann and get the domain suspended for false whois info. It might help prevent others from fallin in to the same thing Domain Name: cryptodao.com Registry Domain ID: 2103151109_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com Registrar URL: https://www.namesilo.com/Updated Date: 2017-08-24 Creation Date: 2017-03-07 Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-03-07 Registrar: NameSilo, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 1479 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namesilo.comRegistrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4805240066 Reseller: QHOSTER.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Peter Smith Registrant Organization: Cryptodao Limited Registrant Street: Flat Number 12, 32-33 Cartwright Gardens Registrant City: London Registrant State/Province: London Registrant Postal Code: WC1H 9EH Registrant Country: GB Registrant Phone: +44.05603858605 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: admin@cryptodao.comRegistry Admin ID: Admin Name: Peter Smith Admin Organization: Cryptodao Limited Admin Street: Flat Number 12, 32-33 Cartwright Gardens Admin City: London Admin State/Province: London Admin Postal Code: WC1H 9EH Admin Country: GB Admin Phone: +44.05603858605 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: admin@cryptodao.comRegistry Tech ID: Tech Name: Peter Smith Tech Organization: Cryptodao Limited Tech Street: Flat Number 12, 32-33 Cartwright Gardens Tech City: London Tech State/Province: London Tech Postal Code: WC1H 9EH Tech Country: GB Tech Phone: +44.05603858605 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: admin@cryptodao.comName Server: NS1.CRYPTODAO.COM Name Server: NS2.CRYPTODAO.COM Name Server: NS3.CRYPTODAO.COM Name Server: NS4.CRYPTODAO.COM DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-08-30 15:02:38 |
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so anyone know what claims were accepted / rejected?
I would hate to see someone abuse this process...
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@spamsucks I agree with what you saying as you come to me a grown man unlike some here who keep coming here saying I told you so when I never heard of them before this thread.
But I like to be positive I know my coins are likely won't come back "notice I didn't say never" because I am a man who believes in miracles, yes I know that the lawyers could not recover much, I know they also sold our own coins without asking us, I even agree with what everyone here is telling us.
However, if there is a way then there is hope. A federal judge has ordered the 11,000 Bitcoins to be returned to their owners by U.S. District Judge Kenneth Marra of the U.S ;The court declared that just over 11,325 bitcoins were stolen from Cryptsy customers in July 2014.
Now I know the $1.4 million mansion, a $100,000 diamond ring and a luxury car is what the people are getting hopefully at the Q1 2018 is not much but it is better than nothing. The lawyers are getting 3rd of that but at least they are working on the 11K BTC's. Whenever there is a new disease researchers work sometimes decades until they find the cure which is ALRDY in existence! Who knows we might not be able to crack that wallet in 2017 but what if we can crack it in 2030? or perhaps never!?
This is my opinion I know your words are gonna be the same
I told you so
lawyers are getting richer while the people that we WARNED are getting pennies and so on, hopefully people here understand what some of us who lost their money think and I really hope you all get whatever you owned there.
Have a nice a year
No i told you so from me. I was NEVER told to get out of cryptsy before hand. I honestly would have prolly ignored them anyway. While people say things like I saw it coming for years and blah blah blah they didnt know. They suspected and made other choices. Or they got burned by cryptsy for something and moved on. Or they sold out of all crypto and had nothing left to leave in cryptsy. Or got burned themselves and dont want to admit it in public. I learned there was a problem after an absence when I deposited coins in there and then tried to withdraw. When I saw there was a problem, I came here and that's where people were talking. I didnt leave big amounts of anything on the exchange. My loses are like .32 BTC and then other coins I didnt keep track of. The amounts I lost are nothing compared to others. at today's rates, its like 1300 bucks. Again... nothing to some. My huge complaint is that we got robbed, and the people responsible got away with it. If you were not a frequent visitor here (or like me didnt come here at all I registered here in 2014) you didnt get the warnings that these people claim. Im tired of hearing the I told you so's as well. They didnt. You never know who is who in the crypto sphere. The people who were in the chat room being cheerleaders for cryptsy right up to the end told everyone it would all be good. If you said too much in there about cryptsy ripping people off you got banned. So unless you messaged every user at cryptsy and showed proof that vern was gonna steal everyones cash, you can stop saying I told you so. Its stupid and childish anyway, and not true. As for the 11k BTC. Its gone. Either the person who took it is dead or in jail, or tossed the keys. In any event I dont think they will ever get those back. A judge cant force them to be released, and more than likely the judge has no idea what they ruled on anyway. If somehow, those coins showed up.... the lawyers would liquidate them, and cash them out to people who can prove they had coins at the rate when they were stolen. You would never get the cash at todays rates. I hope I am wrong for everyones sake. REALLY. but I dont see it. |
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I would demand it, it is MY coins. Stop acting like you know what people would've done if so and so happens, the coins are up everyone who bought or invested in crypto currencies did not do so because they want to lose their own money.
I know that you want to be the ones who keep saying I told you so about exchanges such as Cryptsy are a scam until the end of time but please if you did not lose money here or you have nothing good to say about the ones who lost money like me then stop posting here. It's enough that Cryptsy workers " not sure about this one", he's wife, lawyers are all getting money except the ones who lost their own money.
Demands are worthless here. The recovered monies have a set value. its not like they have the stolen 11k BTC ... that money is gone forever. So if you take the amount left over, there is only so much to pay out. If one person had 10 BTC should they be paid at 4300 each and everyone else gets nothing? The point is we are not talking about coins anymore. The coins are gone. There is only the cash that the lawyers got from selling the leftovers and assets to split between anyone. The value of that car he bought for the ex is set. No matter what happens, the money gained from selling it wont go up cause BTC went up. The house... same thing... the ring... you see where this is going? There are no coins. Thats the part I think people are stuck on. there is X amount. the only way to be fair to the investors is to split what money there is based on what you had at the time. if you had 1 BTC you get 1 share of the funds recovered. no share is worth more than another, and it wouldn't be right to do so. The rise or fall of the value of BTC means nothing in this case unless the stolen BTC are recovered somehow. If that happens, then we can chat about best way to go forward... and if you have a better plan as to how this should work, we are all listening. Does it suck? Hell yes. is there a better way? |
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