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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ZCash vs ZCL on: January 10, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
I've been reading on twitter how good ZCL project is, to me it's not good enough, i know that this Zclassic change many lives in last bullrun, i knew someone who had 1000 ZCL and sold for 200+ per one but after doing research i noticed the coin is not listed on any top exchange, how come since all this while? If you are to choose between ZCL and ZCash which will you choose and why?

if you ask about ZCash vs ZCL its like Ethereum and ETC, i think its very diffirent betwen the main project and forking project, usually main project have biggest comunity, biggest team to maintenance also to solving any bug,and having new technology/feature, but as we know in forking, that's not any new technology just copying the main project

i vote for Zcash for future investment than ZCL
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS on: January 09, 2020, 01:08:47 PM
seem interesting project, i come after someone talking about this in altcoin discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216017.msg53557046#msg53557046) , where i can try to running full nodes in ubuntu?
any android wallet?  or ubuntu gui wallet avaible?
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XTRABYTES (XBY) on: January 09, 2020, 01:00:50 PM
Since delete all but "pro-XBY" comments. Please post your thoughts about this project here. Both pro & con.

do you mean xtrabytes is this ?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/xtrabytes/
seem the developer comeback from a long time no update  Undecided
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2583570;sa=showPosts;start=0

and back with new concept project called X-fuel right?
https://xtrabytes.global/xfuel

seem interesting the developer doing something too at github (last active 3days ago)
https://github.com/XTRABYTES

maybe i will watch this coin and interesting to get some X-fuel or XBY
84  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How did you start trading? on: January 09, 2020, 06:31:52 AM
Hello traders! 
I would like to know how you started trading? Any interesting articles,

after get bitcoin with some earning method (mining, etc) i started trading just by doing everyday, buy sell take profit, sometimes get lost too.

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videos or guides that you found helpful before you started?
for daily resistence you can check here :
https://www.dailyfx.com/bitcoin
you can check the strong signal , weak etc like this


if you want to learn more about candle you can learning at here :
https://www.newsbtc.com/category/analysis/
you will learning more detail about chart, when the "good time" to buy or sell 
like this chart
https://www.newsbtc.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Ripple-XRP-2.png

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Can you share your opinions and experiences please?


my trade experience, i get profit just by luckily holding old coin get arround $6k profit, sometimes $10k but in other day i lost arround $20.000
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Public vs. Private Blockchain, which is better? on: January 09, 2020, 06:14:48 AM
Which do you think is better?

we know both of them is a good ecosysytem, the example from public blockchain is bitcoin and ethereum where  everyone can join  to strengthen network, everyone can report the issue and helping to solve the bug too. decentralized is the main issue when sathosi nakamoto create bitcoin, and bitcoin is the first implementation for decentralization peer to peer online transaction.
this is Quote of sathosi nakamoto
A lot of people automatically dismiss e-currency as a lost cause because of all the companies that failed since the 1990's. I hope it's obvious it was only the centrally controlled nature of those systems that doomed them. I think this is the first time we're trying a decentralized, non-trust-based system.

as we know the biggest private blockchain is XRP, XRP have only 10 validator ( not miner) where the proses of minting coin can running by them, and its private, no people can join to strengthen network, but XRP have a greate company where can solving any issue and bug, centralized is the best option for bank system, in my opinion centralized blockchain still better than paypal.
goverment and bank need blockchain + centralized then IBM, XRP and some biggest tech company use this momenth to open his service.

for me both of them is good option, but decentralization still the best solution, even if XRP use centralized system the ceo of XRP still love decentralization Roll Eyes
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will the price of Altcoin be good in 2020? on: January 08, 2020, 04:10:43 PM
In 2019, the price of Altcoin has dropped significantly. It is now hoped that the price of Altcoin will improve in 2020. Is that possible?

i can say everything is possible, for 10 biggest altcoin in marketcap , i think its easy to follow bitcoin rising during block halving,
for ethereum i think its can back to level $500 anf for the rest minimum rising 20-30% in this year
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What kind of Altcoins have a future? on: January 08, 2020, 03:28:57 PM
The market for Altcoins has been bad recently, and many Altcoins have died and lost a lot of money.
of course during bitcoin down all altcoin will be down too, some altcoin is bad in utility then the price get down too, the altcoin created just for scaming people by ICO, IEO system.
but not all altcoin bad in utility, some of them have a great utility but the condition make the price get down.
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What kind of Altcoins do you think will die?thanks for sharing
i can't say name of altcoin, because each altcoin have a "unique way" to survive or dead, example Dogecoin, fogecoin created just for fun but still running right now.
if the developer still doing something, or give maintenance and solving the bug of coin, i think this coin will be survive and the reserve of it, if developer leave the project, the coin will be dead.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Mining on a cell phone on: January 08, 2020, 03:06:53 PM
Stanford grads find a way to mine on a cell phone.
500K+ downloads. Protected Google app.
its just 10.000 downloader not 500k+
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Earn everyday.
weminepi.com
be ware of scam check this review
The app works great. But there is no withdrawal, no value, it's a blank like Abe. No point it fall under the same logic as anything can be currency as long as its desired. Like the bottle cap theory at the end of the world. Same logic no point. It is a cloud miner. Will revisit in the future if it has more of a plan I will give it a new review

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blockchainvault&reviewId=gp%3AAOqpTOEGBuergzfVzkgVY_n7n8rVm7b2JdtjIUdzeCyTiKNkKs3T7gclVFZ7xF34eA7HjtK0AXgIzohmlsiPEg
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: if anyone hacked your account then who is responsible??? on: January 08, 2020, 02:59:21 PM
if I've created account/wallet on coinbase or any other exchange then my account is hacked and my coins/money lost who are responsible for it
The Exchange where I've created account Huh
80% no  one can take responsible on hacking activity in cryptoworld.

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is it my mistake Huh
usually is your mistake, i can say 99,99% is your mistake, when MtGox was scam, goverman ask for an explanation of their mistakes, as well as holding customers accountable for their funds but even the mistake is Mtgox, you will still lost your money,

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what's you thought about it Huh

and how i make my account safe  Huh

on coinbase
use whitelist IP
use 2fa auth
use phone number auth

also in mail service ( gmail)
use whitelist IP and use phonenumber verification
90  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency usage will boost economy or make it worst ? on: January 08, 2020, 02:43:48 PM
What if all those big corporates and businesses starts using crypto as a mode of payment just to avoid tax which will cause a direct loss to the government which uses tax for the betterment of the country. This might not affect corrupt countries as it doesn't matter because tax money goes to politician's coffers but what about developed nations?
microsoft already support bitcoin payment in last 3-4 years, and now still avaible too
check here :
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13942/microsoft-account-how-to-use-bitcoin-to-add-money-to-your-account
and vultr still avaible to use crypto in payment too.

using bitcoin in largest company like microsoft is not to avoid tax, its just to simplify in payment processor, just like paypal,
we have bitcoin payment gateway such as bitpay, coingate, coinpayment etc. to simplify tax in crypto payment, the payment gateway service will paye the tax to goverment so they are not avoid tax in transaction.
91  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bot trading domination: Time to panic? on: January 08, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
if you know forex market, 80% of trader using bot trade, with some secure option, like cutlost or cut profit etc. 'but the manual trade still exit, i think its normal to trade bitcoin or cryptocurrency using bot trade, im use it too in local marketplace, just to trade in 2 trade, BTC-ETH, ETH-IDR calculation the transaction fee and the margin betwen rate and buy/sell wall.

bot trade running just by programing language, no have emotional, so its very safe for people who can't control the emotional when trading, but to maximaze the profit manual is the right option
92  Economy / Speculation / Re: Return of the bull? on: January 08, 2020, 02:19:14 PM
It was funny how it was $6000 before the new year and now it above $8000.
Some people speculate it is the call of an incoming war on the horizon. But I just cant validate this being the reason why.
It was a sudden spike in a week just about the same time this happened. So it could be a correlation but I just dont see it.

The rise seems to happen due to the war tension between Iran and US and due to which many other Fiat currencies have also risen. The prices will continue to rise till the issues does not get resolve compeletely and settle down peacefully .

War should not happen, they need some peace talk to resolve the problem as many uses bitcoin to keep their assets to hide in traumatic war that may happen, that's why the price increase. It's sad that because of this war price increase happen, we wanted it in different way. In a peaceful adoption and acceptance of many countries.

and some people choose "gold" to save her money, we can see the price of gold rising and im sure will not down like bitcoin, because gold very unique asset, but for digital life and easily to use, bitcoin is the real best option to save our money.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran Buying Bitcoin’ Narrative Quashed by LocalBitcoins Data on: January 07, 2020, 01:32:18 PM
local news from iran >> https://cryptomonday.de/fake-news-bitcoin-kurs-im-iran-ist-nicht-auf-24-000-dollar-gestiegen/
international news >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/01/04/no-bitcoin-isnt-going-for-anywhere-near-24000-in-iran-heres-why/

i think this fakenews must be stop.
bitcoin is unique currency, no people can stop, if the price in iran rising to $24.000 in other place bitcoin must be $24k too, because bitcoin is decentralization market.
94  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-01-06] Mike Novogratz Expects a Bullish Period for Bitcoin and Gold on: January 06, 2020, 11:14:44 PM
Today US is unpredictable, like in forex market every news can impact value of some currency, peoplw waiting unpredictable action from US , if US continue this tension gold and bitcoin value can growing with increasing people who hate usd to be international currency
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain is not Bitcoin on: January 06, 2020, 11:01:02 PM
In my country, bitcoin is just an asset not ancurrency, government reject it to be currency and its illegal activity to use bitcoin as payment processor
But government use technologi behind it, bockchain in some application, like tax payment use blockchain sistem called "online pajak" , one of bank in Indonesia use blockchain too by cooperation eith IBM

So blockchain and bitcoin is different, blockchain is technologi behind it, and bitcoin is peer to peer currency use blockchain technologi
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can I earn 12.5% BTC in 1-2 days ?! on: January 06, 2020, 10:18:15 AM
Hello, I like the COCOS team and the project. Short term fell to 8 sats. I bought $ 7,000 on 9sats!
.8 sats very good price. Increasing my purchases. If you buy 8 and sell 9, you get a 12.5% gain! Let's see if we can make it.

https://www.binance.com/en/trade/COCOS_BTC

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Cocos is a pretty good project but its buying volume is really unconvincing. I have been watching it for 2 days now and it is going down significantly. you bought it for 8sats but now the wall buys only 7sats and it will keep going down as that wall is getting more and more broken. We need a surge from Cocos team to make the price surge. hope this bull run event will also help its price to grow better in the future.



i give you other option, this is old coin, having great cominity, solid developer and now release new "core wallet"
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/reddcoin/
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddCoin/comments/ekeskx/now_available_reddcoin_rdd_core_wallet_posv_v2/
https://thecurrencyanalytics.com/9770/reddcoin-the-social-currency-that-i-almost-missed-sydney-ifergan/

97  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ⭐Minter - blockchain generasi baru pada mesin Tendermint. on: January 06, 2020, 10:08:01 AM
Minter - blockchain generasi baru pada mesin Tendermint, dengan transaksi instan, kemampuan untuk membuat cryptocurrency dan penambangan revolusioner Anda sendiri, menarik 500.000 BIP (~$55000)

Koin itu sudah memiliki komunitas yang sangat kuat, pemimpinnya adalah Evgeny Gordeev, pencipta komunitas cryptocurrency DeCenter dan proyek crypto/blockchain lainnya. Minter mengembangkan pasar, obrolan dan bot di mana Anda selalu dapat membeli dan menjual BIP (itulah yang disebut mata uang Minter), ada cabang langsung di Bitcointalk, banyak orang mengobrol di telegram, dll. Blockchain itu sendiri beroperasi pada algoritma konsensus DPoS (bukti kepemilikan yang didelegasikan). Yaitu ini bukan sekadar penipuan, tetapi proyek dengan infrastruktur dan komunitas yang siap pakai.

1 - 150.000 BIP
2 - 100.000 BIP
3 - 75.000 BIP
4 - 50.000 BIP
5 - 25.000 BIP

Dan 10 lebih banyak pengguna acak akan menerima 15.000 BIP masing-masing.

Cara berpartisipasi dalam undian BIP 500.000. Baca lebih lanjut di saluran => https://t.me/MinterTeamEn

nama yang cukup familiar  Cheesy Cheesy
dari rusia pasti ujung-ujungnya  Manusia Makan Manusia
anyway, untuk source codenya dimana? saya mau instal clinya coba hehe
98  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Jangan pernah Investasi di Koin Lokal on: January 06, 2020, 10:04:31 AM

Pengen ngomong kalau ini permainan didapur tapi disangkanya menjelekan, ditambah tidak ada bukti. tapi kalau opini saya ini jelas adalah permainan. Pembelian minimal 0.5BTC dan laku dalam jangka 20menit.
Berdasarkan pengalaman sendiri saya tidak kebagian Token dan begitu pula teman-teman lainnya, atau mungkin ada yang disini kebagian pada saat penjualan?
Kalau memang harga faktor dari investor yang hanya memanfaatkan bonus atau diskon, Kalau dari Gambar dibawah bisa kebaca kira kira siapa yang berulah.
[img/]https://i.imgur.com/lHFdIs2.png[/img]
sumber : https://etherscan.io/token/0xdd16ec0f66e54d453e6756713e533355989040e4

Harga Presale 80K / 1 BTC. Minimal beli 0.5BTC = 40K. saya pikir bakalan banyak holder eehh baru sampe top holder di 40 udah segini saja :
[img/]https://i.imgur.com/uyvNf4d.png[/img]

yups ini kasus mau gk mau emang boroknya banyaak banget
saya sebagai investor yang rugi ya setuju dengan statemen anda
sedikit kisah ini silahkan cek disini, temen saya yang nganalisa
http://mafiacryptos.blogspot.com/2018/02/hebooh-sisi-gelap-ico-its-ala-tokenomy.html

oh ya saya pernah suatu ketika tanya, kemana kah TEN hasil dari voting dteruskan?
CS jawabnya diburning, atau dihanguskan
langsung donk saya tanya addressnya
CS jawab, kami akan mengkonfirmasi ulang, ini bukan wewenang kamim
daaaan
selang beberapa menit jawabanya berubah, token hasil vooting menjadi hak indodax, itu "rahasia" dari perusahaan
saya tanya donk b'arti bisa dijual lagi dll.
dia gk berani jawab

kesimpulan saya, hasil dari voote, hasil dari fee premium, semuanya dijual ulang sama indodax, dan itu bikin harga down parah asliii
99  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Periksa mata uang UVU, itu akan memberi Anda keuntungan tahun ini. on: January 05, 2020, 07:37:54 PM
agan ini apa ngga liat ya itu di atas aja udah ada pembuktian di papan scam, eh malah minta jatah sebagai team dari indonesia, apa ngga sayang akun nanti kena neg trust gara2 mempromosikan projek scam?

Noted, semoga di trima ya
kagak jadi dah kagak berani nglanjutin untuk gabung , tak liat-liat aja dah hehe
daripada ntar kenapa-kenapa.

Ya, saya harap pria ini akan membantu kami berkomunikasi dengan baik dengan Anda.
Umumkan disini saat dia diterima untuk mewakili proyek anda di lokal board kami
dengan senang hati saya akan menyambutnya Wink

Menunggu jawaban, kami setuju, saya pikir dia sedang tidur?

sory after see this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124861.0

 i cancel to join Smiley
hope you know why i cancel it
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is the prospect of BAT in 2020? on: January 05, 2020, 07:32:11 PM
BAT = Basic Attention Token, the native token for Brave Browser.
i think this coin must running campaign or recruite new local manager to spread BAT internationally, so contry manager can running his strategy in order to make local bitcoiner use BAT to daily transaction, so BAT can head to be 20 Biggest marketcap in 2020.

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