Thought I would share part of a reply I sent to abel, it might be interesting for all of you too just to know what I'm working on. No, the market and the multisig system is not dependent on the masternodes. Currently the masternodes are only acting as a way to put up collateral and earn a piece of the network stake earnings, as an incentive to have more nodes.
There's a fair amount of questionable stuff in DarkCoin's masternode code, and I don't trust it. InstantX for instance is in my opinion poorly conceived and just ripe for exploitation. DarkSend has a few issues that I would like to revisit and maybe find a way to re-architect. One really surprising thing that shocked me is that <snip>. This seems to me to be...an unwise point of centralization Wink So, this is why right now I hid and disabled all of the darksend and instantx functionality for the moment.
After I get through the current Roadmap 2, then I will circle back around and figure out a better way to make darksend work. There is also a lot of room for optimization of the network loop for the masternodes. It currently takes a sledgehammer approach and saturates the network every 5 seconds with broadcasts. I have a feeling this is why some people are reporting strange issues with their masternodes dropping in and out of the list and spotty payments. I think their bandwidth is getting saturated. So there will be some tweaks for that in the next update.
The whole thing can be made to work a lot more efficiently and safer. I'm actually really surprised it is as hacked together as it is given the market cap of DRK (or dash or dashpay or whatever). If you read through the code and come up with any architecture ideas that would be great. <snip>
As far as the multisig system, it is basically an API and a graphical interface on top of it for creating, circulating and executing multi-sig transactions. The piece I am working through now is whether to use an Inventory relaying mechanism or a side-channel messaging mechanism (similar to the encrypted messaging in SDC for instance) for communicating the packets/payloads between the parties.
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Surge Protector is the next big feature, will be the first in-wallet user interface for creating and managing multi-sigs. Using stealth addresses. edit: meant Surge Protector
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guys you know the masternodes rewards. 0.66 is given to nodes where does the rest go
To the person staking their coins.
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Wrong.We have huge issue but everybody scare talk about it.I've already shoot down four masternodes and left two of them .Reason is only one.I don't want to get stress because all my masternodes stop produce coins.Last 0.6666666 I've seen 69 hours ago at one of the six masternodes.All of them was listed and active for few hours and disappear from list and again come back for few hours and disappearand again show up at list for 69 hours but no payment at all. Here what I found in debug console and this happen after last wallet update.If anybody can help ?? I can have 10 or more masternodes but if i got problem with 6 so ..I don't see any reason to continue masternodes in my systems. socket recv error 10054 Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (0 -> 1) ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED Misbehaving: 92.31.187.182:30104 (6 -> 7) ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED socket recv error 10054 Misbehaving: [2001:0:9d38:90d7:288b:30e5:9333:bce9]:30104 (1 -> 2) ProcessMessage(dseep, 116 bytes) FAILED I think that error socket recv 10054 is the main problem .I understand, the connection was interrupted by the receiving process.And sometime can happen when dowloaded program ( like Crave wallet update ) wrote to appdata directory to many times.We got two updates in 3 or 4 days..So I think that I know what happen but I don't know how to fix that .Clean Roaming folder and download new wallet isn't help.I did that 4 times with the same error .Again..Anybody can help????Thank you
Your issue is with your network connectivity. Your masternodes need to have high quality consistent network connectivity to peers so that your broadcasts are propagated. There are some tweaks you might be able to do with your configuration to optimize it. What kind of network are you running your nodes on? From your other post it seemed you are running from your home connection and not on a vps? You might try limiting maxconnections in your conf to something like 8.
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their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do. There will be no change to the economic structure of this coin right now. There is no issue here. We do not agree, thank you very much for responding though ICM, we would like to keep this coin rare. If you disagree, the community has already taken off and could fork if we so chose. Good luck with that. you guys sound like you own crave or something, if you want to change something than go ahead and make new coin but don't drag crave down with it. for that matter don't even use similar name lol Well a community technically does own a coin, but anyways.. Maybe once we hit one million coins, I would be in favor of halving the block reward, and continuing to half every year. Like I said, good luck with that. How well did that work out with ecash and igotspots? Are you going to build a self-serve market platform?
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their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do. There will be no change to the economic structure of this coin right now. There is no issue here. We do not agree, thank you very much for responding though ICM, we would like to keep this coin rare. If you disagree, the community has already taken off and could fork if we so chose. Good luck with that.
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their nodes have been running for months and months, of course they have more than us right now... why the heck are we discussing 10 years from now and somehow thinking it will all be the same as it is today lol you people are too funny.
new nodes have been going up every day growing nice and steady
Personally i like to invest in projects that have a long term vision, if this project does not care about what happens in 10 years from now then i would also care a lot less about this project. I want to like CRAVE though, since so many coins are trying to be mainstream and are distancing them selfs from the dark markets. CRAVE is doing the opposite i think that is cool. So please ICM cap the block reward at 2%, so it cannot go below that percentage. It would hugely increase my confidence in this project and I am sure there are many silent investors out there that feel the same way that i do. There will be no change to the economic structure of this coin right now. There is no issue here.
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Uh dev, I got a question. On the roadmap for Urge it says "user created and operated" does this mean the investors or node holders are suppose to make the dark market/site/sites/auctions or what? This definitely needs some clarification. Because if thats the case someone with enough expertise needs to get started on it now. The coin is only going to do good and stay consistent if it has practical use to give it value. I hope you actually have a plan to make it yourself with a few helpers because people arent going to make the market for you, aside from a very few ambitious people that would actually try.
ICM hi! Question this guy miss and he's lost in previous pages Its self-serve. The people who want to own a market put up 10k coins as collateral and set it up themselves. Then vendors can create listings in the market. So whats stopping anyone from creating a market/forum that accepts crave in return for products and services with a middle man handling the crave? No need for 10,000 coin collateral. And if no one decides to create a market then this coin effectively fails, this doesnt make sense to me. Your roadmap is made with the assumption that someone is going to create this "URGE market" and follow your roadmap 2 to set it up. I think you might be misunderstanding what we are building here. You can think of it maybe as like an on-blockchain Shopify.
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ICM if I do work something out with this dev for the side projects did you want in on discussion/development or do you prefer just to let the community handle it? I'm not trying to step on your toes or anything I just really like crave and want to see it succeed and I figured these are two less things you gotta worry about.
I'd prefer to just let you guys run with it, less on my plate to worry about, so I can focus on core tech. I think its amazing how quickly the community has come together and started building out the ecosystem around this already, and we are only a few weeks old.
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Guys that is incorrect. You can't burn CRAVE for BLUR after the end of the burn period. We could possibly fork darkpoold to push the burn period out further.
That seems a bit strange to me, if it is blur that is supposed to be used for the markets, this takes away from the value proposition of crave. I would think that we should be able to burn crave for blur at anytime. Since this would mean people are expected to burn their crave in the first month of such a speculative project, considering that we can not even sell blur at this point, this is almost the same as burning money, we can not expect people to do this, it does not make sense for the long term or the present. I will say it here, I think we should be able to burn CRAVE for BLUR for the entire lifetime of this coin. It is not supposed to be used for the markets. BLUR is for crypto asssets.
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Guys that is incorrect. You can't burn CRAVE for BLUR after the end of the burn period. We could possibly fork darkpoold to push the burn period out further.
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Uh dev, I got a question. On the roadmap for Urge it says "user created and operated" does this mean the investors or node holders are suppose to make the dark market/site/sites/auctions or what? This definitely needs some clarification. Because if thats the case someone with enough expertise needs to get started on it now. The coin is only going to do good and stay consistent if it has practical use to give it value. I hope you actually have a plan to make it yourself with a few helpers because people arent going to make the market for you, aside from a very few ambitious people that would actually try.
ICM hi! Question this guy miss and he's lost in previous pages Its self-serve. The people who want to own a market put up 10k coins as collateral and set it up themselves. Then vendors can create listings in the market.
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Yep needs polishing can't read alot of text when Navagating throughout the app. This is very discouraging in terms of the devs skills.
I would imagine primary developer is doing back end framework code and having apk compiled by another involved party No, I do the Android, but my skills are apparently so bad that I don't know about the trick for correcting the font size when cross-compiling Qt for embedded devices that I could add to the APK. Because point releases don't exist, of course.
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YaY my android crave wallet is finally sync'd up (crappy phone) is there no QR code reader in the "send" part? that is crucial for an android wallet to have. and also noticed certain things don't scale well in the droid wallet for the screen size. it could deff do with some polishing up Yep needs polishing can't read alot of text when Navagating throughout the app. This is very discouraging in terms of the devs skills. Yes, so discouraging, because every other dev can make a staking wallet for Android and add kinetic scrolling. Must be the hookers and blow distracting the devs attention to detail.
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yup because each coins weight will only ever be = to "1 weight" you'd literally have to buy over 51% of staking coins to be able to even attempt it... were as other coins with no "max age" the attack can be done with much less % of coins
This isn't necessarily the case. There IS a way you could attempt it. But this issue is why I hid the darksend/instantx stuff in the UI in the wallet and default to NOT use instantx, I don't trust it and I want to remove the hooks for it before bringing darksend back / exposing it in the UI. Especially in a Proof-of-Stake coin, there are issues with it even without attempting it intentionally. Darkcoin kind of jumped the gun IMO and interwove instantx everywhere thinking that it is a better mousetrap, but I personally just don't trust it.
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Unlock wallet first, then start.
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Benthatch is an idiot. No one should listen to him. Same goes about emilliomann, neither can read code they are just good at spouting off bs and SLINGing mud around.
The crave dev has delivered so far and thats a good thing.
But until you people stop calling out coins as fudders instead of individuals all your doing is inviting the attacks and perpetuating the ongoing hostilities.
So grow up a little maybe?
This. Please, lets chill on the coin vs coin stuff, thx
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Greetings Crave community,
And congratulations on what looks like a powerful, well-conceived project, solidly executed so far. Being from Blackcoin myself, I'm always intrigued by new coins choosing to build on rat4's Blackcoin PoS 2.0 - but not always very impressed as most are just repaints done for a quick money-grab. I'm happy to be able to say Crave falls in a different category, bringing an intriguing new spin and set of ideas, and frankly a nice shot-in-the-arm to the altcoin market.
I have been playing around with the qt-client, and will set up a masternode today so I can do a full test drive of your stuff. One peculiarity I've experienced seems to be that fully confirmed stake payments aren't all reflected in total coins on dashboard view. Any idea what's up with that?
Anyway, nice work. And enjoy getting through a sea of FUD and jerk-offs. It's inevitable, and the better you are the more you have to endure. We've been there to the extreme ourselves. It will never go away completely, but it does die down a bit (eventually).
Thank you jabulon. rat4 is the only guy out there pulling recent commits in from Bitcoin Core and I don't think people appreciate just how much work that is in pulling the old PoS codebase forward. It is a tall order that nobody else has attempted to tackle. I believe he will probably be the first person to get to headers-first support in a PoS coin.
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Adrenaline Surge craving satisfied. Now we crave Surge Protector.
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The Crave Adrenaline Surge Windows wallet link is now updated in the OP. This update has the unlock-for-staking fix, in wallet adrenaline node count and list, and in-wallet configuration of your adrenaline nodes. You can use it to quickly setup your VPS's and then start them by clicking a button. The in-wallet configurator doesn't pull in the info from the conf file, it is self contained.
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