snip. I'll wait to hear more about this idea. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) PoG@KL : the GAME ---------------------- There is an empty world right now , the World of PoG@KL My project is to fill this void with people , money and game fun. Main actor in this game is a new-born (male baby .. Omg Its a BOY) Coin named DOGECENT. The game tries to emulate the "REAL" crypto currency world ! What is the first any decent coin needs in order to exist ? First of all it needs a distribution method , so in order to start we need to define a Mining method , here it comes the acronym PoG@KL ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) PoG@KL : Proof of Gambling @ a keno lottery FireworksLet me explain how and why this Proof concept has enough properties to do the job right. Keno lottery is a game you choose n lucky numbers out of 80 / then they draw 20 winning numbers. Based on Payout Table winners are decided , blah blah... It is a game of chance , tell me if i am wrong but other mining methods like PoW are lotteries too. Since we try to make a game , at least we will not need to buy 40 High-end GPUs later ! All decent Proof of <whatever> can regulate the difficulty as time pass and the payouts/block Our superior PoG@KL can regulate payouts/block changing the Payout Table We defined a mining method , lets see how we can manufacture a miner for this. We need a stable,consistent and fair random source in order to produce Keno draws 24/7. I will not reveal yet where i found the best available source for free , but in some point i will publish a few lines public python script capable to output all draws REAL-TIMESo the only thing we need is to Post our lucky numbersI will continue later , i am running to a basketball court , laterZ ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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unless some detectives here read and post a review ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) review? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Do you want a review? Ha ha ha ha ha Review of what? If you do not have a website, you just posted an idea I'm very curious, why do you want so much that your idea comes true? I want my idea comes true for a very simple reason : Like any other artist in this world , i have the need to paint my masterpiece. When people asking me why Satoshi invented Bitcoin i reply the same. He had the creative urge to do so and he was actually capable enough !
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![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Bitcointalk is becoming a hospice... joke Being sincere I did not understand anything, Can you explain me one more time, this time in a simpler way? maybe I can contribute more ideas ... who knows. Ha ha ha At first WELCOME ! , i was waiting for you , to say the truth i posted in the other thread to lure YOU here ! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) from Wikipedia : hospice care is a type of care and philosophy of care that focuses on the palliation of a chronically ill, terminally ill or seriously ill patient's pain and symptoms, and attending to their emotional and spiritual needs For people like me using English as a 2nd (or 3rd) language is great when other people using rare English words. Thank you and i think you have right , almost all bitcointalk members are or they will be in need for such care. You don't understand nothing you said , i can barely understand myself , right now morning hours i am busy but later i will post again (for activity) and to clarify things for you and the legion of future newcomers. As about contribution , you are HIRED ! , but management team members starting with ... negative wages ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Have a nice day , good morning from Salonica Greece - Elias C.
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Self quoting my old reply to keep discussion flow intactthank you for posting. it will go either joke or not , please if you like edit your post and write your 7 lucky numbers in the range 01..80 (no duplicates). We will see , have a nice day and thank you for being our Number #1 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Title : ? /Under construction/ ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Archive : Original IntroI know i am doing it wrong way , failed already some times. There is a keno lottery running by itself already , and i am trying to setup a game for me , my friends and all of you dear bitcointalk members. Games are about imagination so relax and read my concept. Every day some coins,tokens or whatever assets are born here in this forum, asking your support ,my game will emulate a new virtual^2 Coin thing. So we will pretend we have a new born coin , gather a playful community , and have some fun ... Coin Name : DOGECENT - initial value equals to 0.01 DOGE Premine : zero Max Coins : 100 times more than DOGE coin /* To the Outer space WOW */ Mining algo : PoG@KL Genesis block time : Block #1812361 of DOGE blockchain. Many details will follow as long i get some response from you all. LETS MINE this thing ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ----------------------------------- In order to mine our virtual coin , you need a dedicated high technology miner device. Here is the catch , you must buy one !! , muahah (*evil laugh*) Sell your house,wife and kids and buy some DOGE coins NOW ! Then you need to decide your 7 lucky numbers in the range 01..80 In order to buy Version 0.01 of our virtual miner you must send a valid transaction like the following example. my lucky numbers are 04,44,45,47,48,77,79 and i am willing to buy a single-ATPU , cost of device is 1500 DOGECENT / 15 DOGE coins + 5 DOGE transport <- wtf! input my preferred DOGE address ---> 10.04444547 part_one receiving doge address 10.48777900 part_two receiving doge address SPECIAL OFFER !!! -------------------- Post here in this thread comments,questions,suggestions and after i sell my house first i will send you a voucher miner for your support ! Disclaimer : No Warranties of any kind , It is a game for fun , Reputable escrow willing to help for free wanted Archive : Second PartFaq and various notes. I will try through this game to present and slowly with your help actually build a Fantasy world with real economic assets within , lot of fun and some-real life uses of existing crypto-currencies. My aim is to make a decentralized virtual world , a thing of Internet , AT (alien technology) ! Usually BB (Before Block-chain) in order to make a program with p2p interaction there was a lot of things to do , Gather User input , Process it , Produce results , Create and maintain Databases etc I strongly believe i can write just some public code , a reference library , and with some magic the whole project i dreamed , it will start running , no servers , fully transparent , stable and fair. Here is the deal , post in this thread questions,comments,ideas suggestions and i will tell you more. Disclaimer : I am not in rush , i have almost endless free time , no need to work and whatever i do in this forum is for fun , however i am not neutral against the idea to make a bit of $ ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks for reading so far. Elias C.
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@OP : since you have big activity in the sub-forum "Gambling > Investor-based games" ... i post in order to promote my game ... ALL LINKS IN THIS SECTION SHOULD BE VIEWED AS SCAM SITES - A WARNING... oops my Scam ? idea , unless some detectives here read and post a review ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I agree with most of this thread's posts, but i like to add a comment. Besides the monotony of threads ,3/4 of them are 'Double xxx in yyy' , i cant find but very few Games ... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Have a nice day @all EDIT : thanks to member Bias , the link of my game is in my sig
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After many months i will restart working on my project YAY. The only reason i edit this is because i love the acronym PoG@KL Placeholder of link to my new thread original text: Welcome ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
Work in progress... come back later or read this thread and reply. Update 28 Jul 2017 : Beta Testing,Help please
Original Intro Posts archived right after. Elias C.
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hello , here a little typo you may like to correct. Whats the difference between STC tokens and lottery tickets?
You get one lottery ticket for each 0.1 ETH you are sending via the lottery contact form. You could also get one STC for every 0.1 ETH you are sending. The differnce is, that your STC is safe. You get them transferred no matter what. Your lottery ticket only represents a chance to get either a lot, nothing or something in between that. After the drawing you can check how much you have won and get your STC token sent to your ethereum wallet.
Greetings and good luck. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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from their respected site (whole 2nd paragraph): We've discovered this flaw recently and have not yet managed to win a lot, but every day we multiply our money hundredfold times and want to do it more. We all understand that such a freebie can not continue for a lot of time and this flaw will be found and corrected in the near future, but until that happens, we want to win as much as possible. That is why we have launched this website, where you can make an investment and we will multiply it twenty times. Half of this money we will give to you, it means that your investment will be returned to you hunderfold in the next 24 hours. Starting capital 0.01 , 5 days later = 100 million new Bitcoins , not bad at all. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And look the well hidden typo in green letters ...
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Reserved for Updates. The thread failed ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But i will be back soon , have a nice day @ all Bitcointalk readers and posters.
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After many months i will restart working on my project YAY. The only reason i edit this is because i love the acronym PoG@KL Placeholder of link to my new thread original text: In my country there is a Keno Lottery running for 15 hours every day with draws every 5 minutes. The game of KENO is actually the worst choice for a gambler since House edge can be up to 30%.
In order to participate in my keno game here you need to post 7 lucky numbers in the range 01..80 You post once and after 24-36 hours your ticket will be listed and stay valid for as long this game is running.
When you hit in any draw enough numbers you will credited in-game currency called EqPS. There will be an Equity Pool , all sold Tickets or other income/donations will be collected there. So far we have distribution of a baby-boy future-coin through playing a keno lottery game.
My last line defines the concept behind this simple game , this game actually defines a "mining" method. A valid ticket behaves like a 'miner' entity ,abstracting the equipment+electricity+hassle costs.
The acronym PoG@KL expanded is Proof of Gambling at a keno Lottery. Other than some fun , this thread will serve me as Proof of concept for my main coin project.
Comments,suggestions,questions are welcome.
*Forum members with at least 113 activity can post once their lucky numbers
Elias.C
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A new day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Good morning and thank you for posting/reading my thread . Checked my wallet just few seconds before , just in case ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) My virtual "miner" working hard , and i am just 29+ days away from the day i will get paid. ( Endless fun and profit) Whoever set this great site/trap he/she can make me ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) with just 10$ worth of BTCs ... Joke of the day My earnings as you read in OP are Pending , that is fine , i just wonder ... In case Bitcoin Split at August 1st , is my future Moneyz safe enough ? Disclaimer : I feel bored and i like to read a couple of funny replies here. Thanks in advance
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Warning !! This thread is not to promote the specific site , not even in PMs you will get the link and/or name ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
Clicking around , i found here in this forum a "mine pool" ... Since it was easy to get it started , filled up a BTC address and instantlyi was "owner" of a free virtual "miner" with fixed daily output of 60,000 satoshis A nice animation was sending 2 sat every 3 seconds to my Balance Of course the site's pages are about Paid Upgrades or Referral Bonuses but i kept myself calm ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I let my glorified FREE miner ran for a couple of days and then i tried to withdraw my earnings. OOPS #1 : Minimum withdrawal is 0.005 BTC ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) No big worries i said , i can do it , so my next step was the 9th day with balance of 0.00513857 BTC YAY!!Told my family with excitement : " We will have lunch today " and clicked the withdraw button... OOPS #2 : Site says all good ,balance is 0 ,and nothing goes to my wallet... You may say : WHAT DID YOU EXPECT idiot? there are not free moneyZ in this world !Chapter TWO : From this point is where the Awesome Scam is setting the real traps. There is a tab 'Finances' at the bottom of a page and there we see whats next. 2017-07-18 10:25:15 -0.00513857 BTC Withdraw (Pending as text and Cancel as clickable option) OOPS #3 Reading just few lines up ... Increase your IPV for instant withdrawals, or wait 30+ days until your withdrawal is processed manually. Your IPV (Instant Payout Value) is Low | What is (IPV? is the only clickable option) Clicking IPV? i got ... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) IPV allows you to withdraw instantly without waiting days for manual processing. - Upgrading <site name removed> will greatly increase IPV and make withdrawals process faster. - IPV increases every time your referrals upgrade their <site name removed>. We strongly recommend to invite referrals. - You can upgrade to V1.5, this is the highest versions and have infinite IPV. All V1.5 withdrawals are instant. AFTERMATHIn just 6 lines we have one of worlds finest definition of a Superior Ponzi/Pyramid scheme. Fireworks!!Increase your IPV for instant withdrawals, or wait 30+ days until your withdrawal is processed manually. Comment , yes we owe you money but please as free player wait until we collect $$ from idiots and RUN. - IPV increases every time your referrals upgrade their <site name removed>. We strongly recommend to invite referrals. Comment , besides Ponzi we have strong Pyramid elements so don't forget to invite your friends too And the FINAL BLOW !- You can upgrade to V1.5, this is the highest versions and have infinite IPV. All V1.5 withdrawals are instant. Comment , V1.5 Upgrade cost just 7 BTCs ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) but you may throw away as little as V1.1 -- 0.01 BTC ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That is all dear readers. Have a nice day and thank you for reading. Elias.C.
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The Most Awesome , Unique , Fun Coin Ever... Warning : If you need fast Profits please RUN away now ! KAINOTOMIA <-- A Greek word , meaning innovation. My mind always running elsewhere, after a couple of years into Crypto-world i think i can try to present a different ,fresh and perhaps useful Coin idea. Dont expect to see anything similar with other coin projects. Abstract logic and Eleven year old kid's imagination is all my credentials. I can only promise some fun , welcome to my thread and be patient. Here are random thoughts to tease you a bit with. Proof of <whatever> ------------------- As i see the whole crypto-scene proof of something is going nuts. Sold-out GPUs worldwide and record electricity bills is fun yeah. My proposal here is to save some real $ with abstraction ... Virtual mining : If you have Coin Address you are mining already. You don't need even a computer,phone or smartphone ... LOooooL Coin Address ------------ You must pick a random key of 64 Hex digits (256 bits) That is your secret key , your Coin address will be SHA256(your_random_key) After that , pick 7 integer numbers between 1..80 You publish Coin Address and your lucky numbers in this thread. YOU ARE MINING !!! How it works so far ------------------- Every day there is a national keno lottery 20/80 with draws every 5 minutes for 15 hrs There will be a payout table and if you hit some of your numbers in any draw , you get coins through a Proof of Keno Lottery Gambling <-- Hilarious idea i know !!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Equity , is this coin worth anything ? -------------------------------------- This coin is old fashioned really , make money out of thin air was not the trend 10 years before. There will be an equity pool , there are already 2800+ DOGEcoins backing up our newborn coin. You may say those are not really big money but wait , IT IS FIRST NEGATIVE premine EVER (yay me) WARNING:: WARNING:: This thread will go Uber-Sarcastic and Funny? - If you cant handle FUN , run AWAY now --To be continued-- Welcome comments,ideas,greetings,donations to equity pool, etc etc --Stay tuned and AMA related to this Wow Awesome To The Mars Idea and Coin and and and... --Disclaimer : besides the fun there is still a lot of serious project underneath , Later ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) --PS : for bitcointalk accounts with at least 77 activity you may start posting Coin Addresses Elias.C.
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When i was thinking to make a fair game i had one serious issue. Where to find a reliable and cheap (or preferably free ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) way to draw fair results. This argument is not against provably fair schemes found in our crypto world.. Given a random seed , provably fair protects players enough but it leaves a little thing out of the whole picture ... Where House finds random seeds at first place ? For a lottery ,things are worst because you have all players playing against same seed Lets say a lottery is a kind of multiplayer game and as such you need a 3rd party otherwise you may inject winners at will. (*or worst..*) Riding a National Lottery was my conclusion too, so i am familiar with your concept enough. In case you are a capable programmer i like to talk with you , best wishes / good luck. comments some of many ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) * You need to provide somehow the list of participants and bets before the draw in a way no one can alter after. * If you offer fixed odds you need Bankroll to cover this game / cold wallets-escrows-trust * legal implications may arise if your lottery grows big - you may use draws of a national lottery as historical data but mention it only at FAQ-Is this game fair? ..etc
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It may be possible out there are capable programmers to work on a unique concept even for free. But before you expose some of your ideas nobody can make a move. Give people here something to read and dream on. As about Bitcoin talk this forum is just that most of times. We all have various motives to post but very little motive to read what others writing .. (* 5% sarcasm *) Have a nice day all and welcome in the forum cmdcoin ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I was playing Simcity from the very first version , you know a box with manual ,floppy disks etc It was fun for long ,and there was also other games from Maxis like Simfarm,SimTower,SimEarth After that i played a lot Caesar 2 , you brought me back good memories and nostalgia !
Thank you for posting here , Have a nice day/life
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I spend some time playing Evony and Caesary (Call of Roma) It was fun to have something to care every day Please share some memories if you played such games in the past I know most people here are to make moneyZ but i am looking for fun most of times Perhaps with enough feedback we may end to make a new Proof of <Fun playing games> algo... Then we will launch an ICO and collect say 2-3 Billion $ in order to make a game... Have a nice day , and plZ make my thread Glorious fast. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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First read this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_ruinOR if you feel lazy just read this : Gambler's RuinThe original meaning is that a persistent gambler who raises his bet to a fixed fraction of bankroll when he wins, but does not reduce it when he loses, will eventually and inevitably go broke, even if he has a positive expected value on each bet.Another common meaning is that a persistent gambler with finite wealth, playing a fair game (that is, each bet has expected value zero to both sides) will eventually and inevitably go broke against an opponent with infinite wealth. Such a situation can be modeled by a random walk on the real number line. In that context it is provable that the agent will return to his point of origin or go broke and is ruined an infinite number of times if the random walk continues forever. So theoretically a casino with 0% Edge and big enough Bankroll can still make profit. The whole concept acts like a hidden House Edge ,i can speculate it is around 0.6-1.0% on dice games. But such casino for casual players can give them more fun time for their money , not bad heh?
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I cant tell about conspiracies or whatever hidden agendas behind crypto... But i can see what happens right now , i think . Sold out all capable GPUs , big electricity bills , newcomers willing to turn flat into crypto ... Exits are closed , HODLing is more than religion to many Crypto natives. The whole Crypto ecosystem produce what Governments,Banks etc WANT ! CONSUMPTION ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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