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81  Economy / Economics / Re: How adoption will happen on: April 28, 2019, 05:21:32 PM
Is it going to start with poor countries and their dictators?
Is it going to start in the USA with their SEC and ETF and everything?
Discuss.

All the reasons you mentioned above are all equally strong. The dictator does have absolute power to implement a decree. And if Bitcoin is legalized and used there, then all of its followers will use bitcoin because it is allowed.
No exception with the SEC and ETF, this is also the same where many of the various individuals from around the world look forward to the SEC's decision regarding Bitcoin and crypto ETFs, the decision will later become the basis of regulations and how to play. And this will later cause an explosion of adoption and use.
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's value after being more recognized and accepted globally. on: April 28, 2019, 05:06:52 PM
Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency in general are slowly been accepted and recognized by some financial institutions in some countries in the last few years. And there are well-known personalities that promotes the use of cryptocurrency around the globe.

But the questions is how come its value decreases after it has reached the highest in the last quarter of 2017. Was it being more accepted affected its value? What are your thoughts?
 

I think this is about a very big sell-off after reaching the highest price. This happened because many of the BTC holders wanted to sell their BTC. The selling pressure that created this resulted in bitcoin experiencing price corrections and finally, prices dropped dramatically. And this is reinforced by the feeling of disbelief in BTC or frustration that forces to sell. This in my opinion, has nothing to do with the growing acceptance of bitcoin. In my view, if BTC is received or adopted massively, prices will tend to be stable and not volatile.
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is Comodities/Currency/as Payment Methode? on: April 28, 2019, 04:46:06 PM
Asset/commodity.

I can't see it ever becoming a widespread day to day currency. Lightning networks may cure the time and fee issue. They don't cure the fact that most people don't want to spend something that may be worth more in a few days. If they have an alternative that doesn't do that then that's what they'll use instead.

It does many things an awful lot better than any bank, but I don't see how that circle can be squared.

Yes, your perspective with me is almost the same that considers Bitcoin as an asset/commodity. Maybe because Bitcoin has a limited supply and our understanding of bitcoin is attached to the word Asset / Commodity from the start. If this perspective continues to go wrong until the end, I am worried about the purpose of bitcoin itself from the beginning of its creation. Because it is honest until now Bitcoin has not become an actual or legitimate alternative digital payment/currency that is legal in my country.

Bitcoin is indeed much better than a bank, and until now I'm grateful that many banks have done development and research on bitcoin, this could be a good sign for Bitcoin or banks can just make another version and forget about bitcoin. And Bitcoin will still be an asset.

84  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the Bitcoin is still down? on: April 28, 2019, 04:22:51 PM
what is the another ways to lifted up the Value of bitcoins in the market?

I think there is a big demand from the market that can affect price increases, plus a limited supply from bitcoin. Mass adoption is also the main trigger of soaring demand in the market which will ultimately help increase Bitcoin prices.
if prices have not risen high means mass adoption is still slow running, so prices that rise are not in a large margin. if the price continues to fall, surely the trend and news on the market is still bad and you have to understand that, sometimes the price has decreased

The hype around BTC is over. people have become rationalists. They do not rush to buy as much cryptocurrency as they can and they do not sell the business and real estate to invest in Bitcoin. The demand is not so great yet.

This is just like the season, where one of the Bitcoin seasons is highly sought after, and wherein one of the seasons Bitcoin is not searched for, it is sold on a large scale. And indeed, being able to return or raise the price is a return request from buyers on the market.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 6 Reasons why IEO is better than ICO on: April 28, 2019, 11:46:36 AM
Until now, the ICO is indeed too many scams and only a few percents have succeeded and still survive today. I think the IEO is the best breakthrough where projects and investors are no longer confused to face the future after the fundraising process is complete. Investors and platforms are easily facilitated by exchange from the process of collecting funds and later trade activities.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will you stake your token to make profit? on: April 28, 2019, 10:57:07 AM
Yes, I will do it if the staking rate is interesting. This is like not doing anything to get money with only the tokens we have. But if the rate is less attractive, I will choose the trade rather than staking. In addition, I will also do research on the token platform first, so that my security will not end tragically as before. I furiously did staking on one of the tokens, because the staking rate of the token was attractive (40% per day) so I did it and the price of the token was pretty good at around $ 1 per token. But after the daily rate drops and the rate per week goes up, I move to the rate per week. When I staking weekly, prices dropped by more than 100 percent and this made me lose.
In my opinion, staking is interesting, but we must be really observant so we don't get the loss I experienced. Staking always has a negative and positive side.
87  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoins - What will happens to BTC on: April 28, 2019, 10:37:09 AM
Future of Bitcoins - What will happens to BTC

When discuss about future of Bitcoin there are lot of Articles on various forums with different opinions and stories. Few of them agree that Bitcoin will remain as it is and has the idea that value of Bitcoin will increase. Some of them say that Bit coins will collapse it's own position soon. What will happen to Bitcoin...?

Many world analysts and economists have now glanced at and said that they are bullish on bitcoin, moreover, many of the few countries declare legal and implement laws against bitcoin. The development of the adoption and project of the Bitcoin Blockchain is also continuing and more and more consortiums of banking bodies are researching bitcoin. This clearly illustrates the future of bitcoin later. With so many large investors entering, Bitcoin is now expected to continue to grow and away from collapsing even though there is a possibility.
trust and functional factors that will bring bitcoin to its true function as a currency. with the increasing number of people who believe it will certainly urge the government to make a policy for bitcoin

Brilliant. We are now on this threshold, where trust and functionality must continue to grow. This is a defining period where the future of Bitcoin will be formed strongly. And with the emergence of several legal statuses and Bitcoin/crypto legislation in various countries such as Japan, the direction of the development and value of bitcoin will become clearer in the future.
I believe that the price of Bitcoin will be able to reach $ 100,000 in 2021 plus halving BTC event which will occur in 2020.
88  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the Bitcoin is still down? on: April 28, 2019, 10:16:40 AM
what is the another ways to lifted up the Value of bitcoins in the market?

I think there is a big demand from the market that can affect price increases, plus a limited supply from bitcoin. Mass adoption is also the main trigger of soaring demand in the market which will ultimately help increase Bitcoin prices.
if prices have not risen high means mass adoption is still slow running, so prices that rise are not in a large margin. if the price continues to fall, surely the trend and news on the market is still bad and you have to understand that, sometimes the price has decreased
Adoption is just a single factor among so many other things which decide the market moving of bitcoin. If the price correction takes place there will be fall in value, and we need to to have a overview on each and every activity happening through the network only then it is possible to find the right reason for price being down and moving up.
Right ... There are many factors that can drive prices, not only because of the large demand or the inclusion of various angle and institutional investors, the price correction can also move the price which causes a decline to test the resistance support. The biggest influence in driving prices is the entry of investors or large demand in the market. regardless of the influence of whales or not. Withdrawal of funds or disbursement of funds by investors can also lead to drastic price reductions.
89  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin Beat Banks? on: April 28, 2019, 10:04:04 AM
This will not happen, crypto and fiat complement each other. banks are actually happy if there are new technologies such as blockchain and crypto/bitcoin appearing and just look at now, how many banking institutions are starting to research and want to implement blockchain on their systems. On the one hand, we will also need both fiat and crypto in our lives.
"crypto and banks will complement each other rather than defeat each other"
Yeah there may be an innovation where both can help each other, in a bank there are several foreign currency deposit facilities, and I think bitcoin or others crypto will be included in the list when legality has occurred. both dont need to be pitted for this

Yes, it's true,
Collaboration or new innovations from banks and crypto blockchain will probably emerge in the future given the interests of the banking consortium that has now emerged and conducted various studies. This is also intended to facilitate all fiat cross-border transaction activities and crypto/bitcoin transactions themselves, and in the end we will enjoy them. Actually, this is a complementary package to each other in my opinion towards a system perfection.
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price in December 2019 on: April 27, 2019, 03:53:38 PM
What do you think about Bitcoin price movement? What will be the year ending situation? I believe it will be around 10k to 12k USD. Let's hope for good things coming and let us know your thoughts.
Thank you.
December 2019, I believe Bitcoin is already in the bull run area. Where Bitcoin prepares to rise again. My predictions that Bitcoin in that month could reach a price range of $ 8000, just my prediction.
91  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will religion save you? on: April 27, 2019, 03:46:20 PM
This always comes into my mind whenever 2 or 3 religions are quarelling about whos gonna be save. Also, Other religion destroying other religion in anyway they can like saying something bad in that religion, discouraging people not to join in that religion or go out in that religion, etc.

What can u say about this? Anyway in Christian world we all believe in one savior, Jesus Christ. So why are we fighting amongs ourselves which is which that will be saved? All I can say is Religion can't save you, HE WILL!

Yes, I think religion can save me. In my religion Islam, religion helps me to do better for fellow human beings, the environment (earth), other living beings. During this time I believe, that only myself can save me from the act of sin by exploring the religion that our prophet has taught. The more we know the science of religion in Islam (my religion), the greater our love for our GOD and the better our deeds to our fellow humans, the earth and everything in it.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think? on: April 27, 2019, 03:37:29 PM
I see that the crypto world is developing very fast, including bitcoin. And also with the entry of technology and breakthrough breakthroughs, especially in the ICO project. But my question is whether it would be good if there were still many people who were reluctant to develop and increase their knowledge too and still depend on the opinions and predictions of others?
In my heart I say that is not true. What about your point of view?

Maybe for some people and those who are classified as newbies is a natural thing. And honestly, as long as it is new in learning technology and new things, it is very difficult to do their own research and development. For my own example, I need 2 months to know and be independent in seeking information. And after that, I can find the information myself even though I still need some guidance. I am aware that dependence is a bad thing and we must eliminate it. discuss better than depending on the opinions of others.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH: Deep crash before going to the moon? on: April 27, 2019, 03:14:30 PM
Really puzzling to see Ether price keep following Bitcoin. Bitcoin crashes and everyone crashes. So now we are seeing ETH back at $166, after trying to hard not to go back down from $170. I guess we can see it go even past back to $155 like it was before the sudden increase,,, I guess the theory of deep crash has not played out 100% yet. Maybe they really want to push it to 5% of ATH which is around $70 first.

Bear bitcoin isn't really over yet. Because Bitcoin hasn't perfectly realized the bull trend. And this will affect crypto especially ethereum. I think you are right, ETH might be able to return to $ 70 again, as long as bitcoin hasn't really ended its bearish, crypto period still in the bleeding season.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do the Bitcoin casinos are based on blockchain? on: April 27, 2019, 01:58:03 PM
Bitcoin casino has not yet been developed on the blockchain technology system yet.
But just like every normal casino it is very transparent and I don't think there is a need for the blockchain technology

Yes, I also agree with that. The Blockchain technology in the casino is only used to launch the payment process (deposit and withdrawal) besides that the blockchain has not been used as a system to run casinos.
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto film brings Bitcoin to Hollywood on: April 27, 2019, 01:42:03 PM
Any info when the film will be released officially and will it be available world wide? The trailer looks so attractive, I hope it will be released soon so it can be the first Bitcoin Film and hopefully it will bring good effects to bitcoin in general. More adoption, more demands, and obviously price boost.


I have watched this film 1 week ago, and in my opinion, this film is very interesting where crypto is uploaded in a hollywood film. In the film, mining and crypto transactions are uploaded to the story. I really enjoyed the storyline.

to watch crypto movies, please see this link: https://indoxxi.cx/movie/crypto-2019-subtitle-indonesia-c62d
96  Other / Off-topic / Re: If you die; what will happen to your accounts on: April 27, 2019, 04:47:01 AM
I will record all my account and websites where I can access all of my accounts and save them to a flash disk that can later be accessed by my wife and family. And fortunately, my wife and sister know a little about this stuff.
97  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin Beat Banks? on: April 27, 2019, 04:35:45 AM
This will not happen, crypto and fiat complement each other. banks are actually happy if there are new technologies such as blockchain and crypto/bitcoin appearing and just look at now, how many banking institutions are starting to research and want to implement blockchain on their systems. On the one hand, we will also need both fiat and crypto in our lives.
"crypto and banks will complement each other rather than defeat each other"
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best 5 Unpopular Altcoins to invest in 2019 on: April 27, 2019, 04:17:41 AM
From the list, I glance at the waves. Aside from the stable price and development of the project that continues there, I believe that waves can be a promising coin for investment in 2019
99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Regulations only for BTC to increase in FIAT value? on: April 27, 2019, 03:27:24 AM
Hi all!

People in this forum and in many other discussions are fast to talk about the 'need for regulations'.

Most of the times it is in connection to mass adoption and for price speculation ideas.

Is regulations really only for Bitcoin to increase in price? What about the whole idea about a P2P currency without governments and banks being involved as a middle man .... Regulations issued by authorities, is that not only for the old system to take control of this emerging p2p currency market? I dont know but why should Bitcoin be regulated by governments and other authorities according to you?

Regulations made by the government solely to oversee the circulation of BTC used for legal activities are not illegal. The term is that all transactions using BTC or activities related to BTC are legal. And the government cannot mix hands, in my opinion, the government actually gives free access to BTC in the region. The biggest role of the government will be supervising, not taking control.

And in my opinion, if the government legalizes and provides clear regulation on Bitcoin, the best impact is mass adoption and use of BTC as the mainstream of transactions. This will trigger price increases,
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future of Bitcoin as a sustainable currency. on: April 26, 2019, 02:42:08 PM
I think in parts of Asia it has started to legalize Bitcoin and use Bitcoin as a legitimate payment tool. Just say Japan. This is the beginning of mass adoption in my opinion. Ok, we need to worry now about the future of Bitcoin, playing through illegal trade, ICO, scams and all things that are bad but it cannot cover the kindness or revolution brought by Bitcoin. Slowly, various countries have begun to pay attention and create a new regulatory framework for bitcoin at this time. With the legitimacy of Bitcoin that is currently starting to emerge, this is the beginning of bitcoin as a digital currency and legal payment instrument or payment option.
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