i just can't understand. what is the corelation between opening spreadsheet and the security issue. if they think opening spreadsheet can make whole participants in dangerous because of the stolen data, then why they open it before the campaign ends. it's should not public since the first time.

i still didn't get the exact amount. it's like 1/3 of what i deserved. and everytime i ask about it, the team always said it is the right amount without give me the real calculations. crypto is about transparency, and they don't show it. they are forgetting the most important thing in crypto space, bulding trust.

I think we should vote on having 2 trusted individuals looking at the spreadsheet to confirm paid amounts, that way you dont gotta worry about it getting comprimised or w.e the f*ckin excuse is you are trying to use.
I vote for Mibambino to look at the spreadsheet.

First of all, for the sake of investors Envion should prove immediately that they are a real company. How to do that?
Give legal adress and especially whareouse adress so they can invite potential costumers to take a tour.
Make videos and photos of the team working, videos and photos of people actually working on the container not fake interviews of Matthias talking with a greenscreen depicting Fankfurt financial center.
Second: why the f**k a seroius company like Envion keeps the owners of the company in shadows? Do you know why Envion is giving up the names of the team members? Because they will have no penal responsability if everything goes wrong.
Third: if the so called CTO Matthias is half of what he claims to be ( investing 300ml € in solar energy) why the hell should he need tiny random investors from bitcointalk. A man of his caliber, with a strong financial background has, for sure, ties with the german financial hub and does not need 1000 people investing 2-3k in his enterprise.
Envion wants to collect money from as many people as possible because people who invest 2-3k is not going to risk to hire a lawyer to get some saved money back.
Fourth: Where does the money go? From as far as I know it could go into a bank account called charity and end of story. Envion should give IBAN or bank wire account of the destination. Here we go with the fifth.
Fifth: Envion is a swiss startup operating in germany...why is that?
If everybody reads the whitepaper carefully it states that American citizens and green card holders cannot participate to ICO. The reason behind this is simple, swiss bank account holders have something called professional secrecy wich protects the account holder( ex. Banks do not have to give id of their costumers to law enforcement agencies)
The only way to bypass that is to commit an action that it is considered crime in both US and Swizerland and that the owner can be prosecuted in one of these countries. Hence, if he commits fraud to a US citizen and it is sued by him/her, its bananas in the dark hole for the account owner.
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