Any update on getting a clock in the menu bar showing site time?  It's helpful when figuring out what time blocks were found.   Or the ability to set the site to show everything as your timezone when you are logged in.  Similar to the option most forums give you in your personal settings.

If you have stable GPU miners on on older versions (3.0.0 or 3.1.1 for example) is there any performance increase inherent to 3.2 that is worth the upgrade?  I see the majority of changes are for ASIC people.

Another minor bit of feedback to add to your long list of things you might do to improve the site.  I think it's safe to switch the "fastest users" section of the live stats from Mhps to Ghps. I don't think anyone in the top 50 list will be under 1Ghps ever again in the new ASIC world of bitcoin mining.

OK, so my logic was correct then.   A pool that gives you a lower reject rate, over a long period of time, will provide a better income then a pool that gives you a higher reject percentage.    Basically p2pool with it's 15-20% reject rate is worse then any pool (fee or no fee) that gives you 5% or lower rejects.  1Ghps on p2pool will provide a lower payout (averaged over a few months) then the same put on a fee pool. (if the fee is 5% or lower and your reject rate is only 1-3% roughly)

Should also note I'm not complaining about the reject rate of p2pool, I get that it's higher because of the nature of how it works, I'm just trying to sort out how the percentages of rejected shares affect a miners profit.

Yes yes this part I am well aware of.  But regardless you are only paid for accepted shares, which is what my question is about.  If the pool (p2pool or another like bitminter etc) only pays on accepted shares then isn't a pool with a higher accepted amount going to pay out that much more?  I know with p2pool, even though you may submit a ton of shares you only get paid for.. how to explain this, shares that are above a certain level... I can't really verbalize that but even though I may submit many shares I only know certain ones above a threshold (in p2pool) will actually get me payout.  (Why you add +xxx to the end of your address to cut down on useless shares at the expense of lowering hashrate reporting accuracy on your p2pool site).

If only 85% of my accepted shares are useful, is the 15% that aren't causing a reduction in my possible payout over a pool that accepts 95% but then takes it's 2% cut?

I may be way off here, but hopefully the question I'm trying to ask can be gleaned from my ramblings.

In my head what I'm about to explain sounds correct, but I'm posting here as I'm willing to admit often I am wrong and want to be sure...


So as great as P2pool is for it's decentralized nature and all that, the many small payments (and variance if you have a low hashrate) can be annoying at times.   Also it seems no matter what p2pool node I run on I will see, over time (a week or so) an average of between 80-90% efficiency of submitted shares. (without using add ons to your address to only submit higher dif shares).

I see a much better accepted rate on pools with fees (averaging 95% on my LTC CPU miners, and over 99% for stratum GPU mining).  [Before you yell at me for CPU mining I have free power and CPU's to spare.]

So while there might be no fee on a p2pool node, it's still more efficient to mine on a pool with a fee that has a higher overall accepted percentage? 

95% accepted with a 2% fee is still better then no fee and 85%(avg) accepted, or am I wrong here.

I await your mocking comments and being called dumb, but thanks in advance.

Could be worse...  I found 3 olllllld machines buried in the equipment room here at work.  Figured what the hell, I don't pay for power here so I ordered up 3 7950's and got all three machines happily crunching away in the equipment room next to all the servers and other random loud machines.  It's a massive power hungry building already so 3 extra machines is only a drop in the bucket for power.  I run "IT" here anyway so no one even noticed.  Figured I'd just let them sit there and do their thing until... well until they died.

Two months later got offered new job (yay!) out of the blue, and now I'm leaving here in 3 weeks.  Don't really want to set them up at home (power costs not really worth it) and I'm pretty sure I won't be able to set them up at the new place.

Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.  Did manage to pay for almost 2 of the cards with mined BTC so no real loss really I guess.

This is minor, but is there a way you can add the ability to set your personal time zone on the site, or perhaps at least put a clock up on the menu bar with the current time for the site's clock?  I think I'm 6 hours behind the site time and constantly trying to do the math in my head for the block found times.
Thanks.

Thanks.  I might be granted access to a location with free power (hydro) but it's off the grid and has no internet.  There is 4G cell service tho.  Didn't know if it's feasible to set up some miners over a cell connection without using hoards and hoards of expensive data.

So is mining over a cellular modem connection basically impossible due to it's bandwidth usage/cost?

Yea, just because a 51% pool could happen doesn't mean they would use that power for evil for the reasons listed above.  But as others had brought up, if the pool fell into the wrong hands with a hack, then the hackers could cause some serious issues for the lulz.

Ahh, OK.  I'd seen them with a high percentage before but never that high.   Disregard.

Anyone else notice this?  Screenshot from 24hr avg, May 18th, 7:50pm MST.


/edit  Nvm, on closer inspection and it isn't that high in reality.  Caught me off guard for a moment tho.

Noticed Bitminter went down, then noticed this while investigating.

7:09PM MST, May 18th.

If you are mining bitcoin you don't need beefy memory speeds, thats more a litecoin thing.   For bit I run engine at 1200 and mem at 1050. (Sapphire 7950's, Linux, cgminer 3.1.1 & 3.0.0)  If you are in windows you can downclock the memory speed even more using third party apps.    Downclocking memory might give you some extra wiggle room to bump the engine speeds up a bit more, or just help lower card temps/fan speeds.

Try http://mining-foreman.org.  I have all my CPU miners on there.  It doesn't have stratum support so all my GPU miners are on other pools.  But it's 0% fee, PPLNS and since it's small it avoids most of the DDoS attacks that hit the bigger ones.  The only downside is, since it's small the rounds last a very long time.  But payout and all that does with just fine so far!

Yea if they have their own power source then you can get any decent brand USB hub, even unpowered ones.  Perhaps some of those cheap 10 port unpowered strip style hubs.   I don't think they (the BFLs) are bandwidth intensive so using several on one USB bus shouldn't hurt anything.

Any decent brand powered USB hub will work fine.  Are the BFL's powered by USB or do they have their own power supplies?  If they are all powered by USB you should look for a hub that provides full 500 to each USB port.  Some cheaper "powered" models (I have one) are powered, but only provide a total of 500 to 5 of my 7 ports.  (Only has enough juice for 5 full powered devices, but can power all 7 if the draw isn't quite full power)... 


Anyway, just don't go cheap.

Its ASICMiner.  They have some of their machines on bitminter for awhile while they are getting them setup.  The plan I believe is to eventually move them to solo mining.  So enjoy it while it lasts on Bitminter.

If the numbers are still wonky over a period of several hours then I would look more into it. 20 min really isn't a good amount of time to judge.  Also you can always just do a little adding of what your miner on your machine states for shares, and what the website total paid share says.   Stop everything and wait for the pool to settle 30 min or so should do it, you just want to make sure there aren't any in the unpaid column.  Then reset your miners to zero and fire them all up.   After a few hours pause them and wait again for the pool count to settle on the website.  If the accepted/rejected share total from your miner is the same as the whats the total is on the website (minus what was already in there before) then you should be fine.

/edit   my website hash numbers are never close to accurate, but the total shares on the site matches my miners total locally.  I basically just use the site hash numbers to tell if my machines in the office have crashed over the weekend.  If I see 0 from one for a hour or more I hop over to the office and restart it.  Thankfully it's only a few minutes away.