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81  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: January 24, 2018, 02:13:23 AM
Guys sorry for this question above but I would like to ask here that

What is the difference of Trading to Investing?

though I know that I can search it in google but I want an answer from those people who have already experienced this two.
Thank you.

I hope you can help me in my confusion..


I hope you can help me in my confusion ..

hopefully i am not wrong in explaining it this is my opinion

trading that we invest our capital but we who manage it, profit and loss we specify
but if investment is we invest our capital but here we are passive not much we can do with our capital, just waiting for result of them
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wiil bitcoin price raise up again? on: January 24, 2018, 02:04:46 AM
if you already understand bitcoin surely you will just relax to see this, because the bitcoin price reduction is just a matter of time, see bitcoin trading chart is always up and down but he will repeat the same chart with other words his pattern is almost always the same
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best Time To Buy Bitcoin!! on: January 24, 2018, 02:01:08 AM
exactly once this is a good time to buy bitcoin to see the price is going down, if we have good funds also make invested in bitcoin, may be for short or even we keep waiting until the price rises until the price we set to sell again, this is the best opportunity because I think the lowest bitcoin price is 9 to 10 k the normal up and down
84  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin untuk transaksi offline? on: January 23, 2018, 03:02:01 AM
Saat ini bitcoin sudah banyak diketahui umum, terutama para pemgguna internet.
Kira kira di masa datang apakah bitcoin bisa digunakan untuk jual beli atau alat pembayaran secara offline?
Misalnya untuk bertransaksi di pasar atau supermarket?

jika sudah dilegalkan oleh pemerintah maka pasti dengan sendirinya bisa digunakan tapi ya masih di kota besar karena mungkin untuk yang didaerah itu belum tahu, cara penggunaannya, itulah harapan saya agar bitcoin bisa di legalkan setidaknya mata uang virtual juga boleh
85  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Indonesia pengguna blockchain. on: January 23, 2018, 02:09:46 AM
Gan saya mau sering nih apkah benar bank  Indonesia akan menggunakan technology blockchain soalnya saya menemukan sebuah article  tantang BANK INDONESIA SIAP MENGGUNAKAN TECHNOLOGY tahun depan: https://dailysocial.id/post/bank-indonesia-siap-uji-coba-teknologi-blockchain-tahun-depan/

beberapa waktu yang lalu juga ane baca sebuah artikel yang memberitakan kalau ada 5 bank besar di indonesia yang akan mengadopsi teknologi dari blockchain, ini merupakan sebuah awal yang bagus buat kita semoga berawal dari ini pemerintah nantinya bisa menerima mata  uang virtual
86  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: tentang wallet address on: January 21, 2018, 04:12:24 PM
Saya mau cerita sedikit jadi dulu saya membuat akun btt dan akun tersebut unable post lalu saya membuat akun ke 2 dan akun tersebut di banned dan saya membuat akun ke 3 yg dipakai saat ini
Dan ketiga akun itu saya pakai menggunakan wallet address yg sama
Pertanyaannya apakah saya perlu mengganti alamat address saya?
Mohon penjelasannya

Lebih baiknya diganti saja gan karna jangan sampai dibelakang ada sesuatu yang tidak diinginkan
Lagian ganti address pun tidak ribet, sangat gampang tidak ada persaytan khusus

untuk cari amannya sebaiknya di ganti saja agar tidak terjadi penyesalan di kemudian hari karena hanya beda akun tapi memiliki address yang sama, itu saran saya semoga bermanfaat
87  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Kenapa Pemerintah menilai Bitcoin itu merugikan? on: January 21, 2018, 04:09:47 PM
Kenapa sampai saat ini Pemerintah selalu menilai kalau Bitcoin itu merugikan untuk masyarakatnya? Padahal yang kita semua tau Bitcoin itu sangat menguntungkan buat kita semua. Karena sudah banyak bukti kalau di antara kita semua sudah sukses dengan Bitcoin.

Apa pendapat kalian tentang masalah ini? Mungkin ada yang bisa menjelaskan secara detail Huh

yang merugikan masyarakat maksudnya bagi pengguna baru yang hanya mengikuti arus  yang akhirnya akan terjebak harganya di pasar, hal ini lah yang di kawatirkan oleh pemerintah karena harga bitcoin itu sangat fluktuasi, selalu berubah setiap saat
88  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin sah-sah saja selagi tidak merugikan menurut fatwa MUI,Hasanudin AF on: January 21, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
Nah saya setuju dengan ulama hasanudin tentang fafwanya.
Dengan alasan yang dapt diterima bitcoin tidak ada unsur haram. Dan juga tidak merugikan seseorang
Mengapa fatwa mui tiap daerah beda2 pendapat  Huh

ini merupakan angin segar, bagi pengguna bitcoin yang selama ini merasa terpojokan karena banyak yang menilai bitcoin itu haram
sekarang ini semua itu sudah terbantahkan, lega rasanya
89  Economy / Economics / why bitcoin is banned by the government on: January 21, 2018, 03:51:19 PM
is not that bitcoin able to change the state of its users which effects also on the state of the country's economy, why even banned hemzzz Grin Huh
90  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: January 21, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
Governments are already aware of the blockchain technology and they acknowledge the potential that it holds and how it is going to affect and change the existing banking and financial system. But they are not ready to use bitcoin being something they have no control over. I'm sure they already have something in plan to utilize blockchain but as i said what they want is to have something that can exist alongside their system.

the point is now that bitcoin can not be received by the government because it can not be controlled so it is still in the search for the gap, but its blockchain system can be accepted by the government proved more and more banks are studying the system from blockchain
91  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2018 end of the year BİTCOİN price on: January 21, 2018, 03:20:16 PM
Hi guys,

The first guess is me    65k-70k USD

I guess that would be too much but some investors and even businessmen predict it to be $45k by the end of 2018. So in this part of the year where bitcoin price is still in ups and downs, it is better to invest more since the price is still low.

it is now a good time to invest because the price in my opinion is still relatively cheap up and down not far from the number 10k - 19k, but in your opinion this bitcoin price reaches 45k means to invest is not too late
92  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: January 21, 2018, 02:41:32 PM
Saving bitcoins is one of the best thing to do with your current bitcoins and there is a lot of good things to be a reason why you should save now. Saving bitcoin for a long time is one of the best option if you buy your bitcoin at a high price like 900-1000$ because you can see in that price chart that long term is still the best option because the price is unpredictable and it can be double or triple the current price now so if you want a good and big profit then long term is the best.

really right up to now the best choice of investment in bitcoin is still with the long-term method, what if we start at the beginning we plant it still at a low price then until now still safe will not mersa loss even though the price dropped drastically
93  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is 2018 the downfall of bitcoin? on: January 21, 2018, 02:35:24 PM
Why'd you say that 2018 is bitcoin's downfall? Because it dropped in price? Bitcoin's price has been hugely fluctuating in price since forever; and price doesn't determine the success of bitcoin. Lightning network isn't even being currently used besides for testing, so I'd say bitcoin is just getting started.

this is only at the beginning of the year, there are still 11 months to be less agree if 2018 is the fall of bitcoin, you can see the chat at the beginning of the year for the last 3 years must come down all, after that the price began to rise again, this hopefully can be repeated again so that buy above can be at least behind the capital first
94  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm gonna sell my house on: January 21, 2018, 02:23:22 PM
but I think for those who do not understand correctly about bitcoin do not rush to do this because you could be wrong prediction because this is a speculation of the trade, just use the funds you have and even then if you are interested to invest in bitcoin, so as much as we just after understand and there are new benefits you develop again
95  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Blockchain bisa diaplikasikan pada teknologi apa? on: January 20, 2018, 11:16:27 PM
Blockchain adalah teknologi yang hebat. Saya pikir blockchain harus diterapkan pada catatan Internet.

Atau akankah itu diterapkan di mana?

sistem blockchain kebanyakan di gunakan di bidang perbank kan, yaitu untuk pencatatan keuangan, dengar dengar di negara kita sudah ada 5 bank besar yang akan menggunakan sistem blockchain
96  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin vs saham siapa yang lebih prospek? on: January 20, 2018, 11:07:22 PM
kalo saya baru nyobain satuyaitru trading di bitcoin untuk saham saya belum pernah
saya kira kalo soal untuk pasti semua menguntungkan tinggal bagaimana anda menjalaninya
menurut saya prospek yang lebih baikl adalah di bitcoin karena kita bisa lebih cepat memperoleh keuntungan
97  Economy / Economics / is it a bubble? on: January 20, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
many people say that bitcoin bubble, honestly I still do not understand what is meant by the term bubble earlier?

until now I am still curious
98  Economy / Economics / Re: Still Trading When Red? on: January 20, 2018, 10:55:37 PM
every moment I always take advantage to gain, the way if we have already bought at the top price then the price decreased, if like this happens then I will save and if there is still capital then I will buy at the bottom price to keep the purchase losses at the top price just now
99  Economy / Economics / Re: DON'T DO PANIC SELLING !!! on: January 20, 2018, 10:50:27 PM
It went up because of the upcoming fork and down due to russian News  Roll Eyes
So true, no Need to panic; get yourself some cheap alts!

panic sales is a very avoidable by traders, because it would be detrimental, we should learn to understand the price chart so that when there are events such as price reductions yesterday to half the highest price

calm in taking steps to sell and buy would be much more profitable
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: KFC to accept Bitcoin! on: January 20, 2018, 10:39:52 PM
whether in all KFCs in any country we can already buy food with bitcoin, or still in certain countries only
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