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81  Economy / Securities / Re: Has anyone tried crowdfunding real estate? on: May 16, 2017, 12:04:46 PM
The idea is obvious: raise funds in an ICO and use them in a property buy-to-rent scheme, sharing the profit from rent using the rent money to buy back the crypto asset. Then ultimately reselling the property on the market if majority of investors votes so, and buying back the remaining coins.
The obvious problem is the trust issue: legally the property belongs to the coin issuer, (s)he could just run away with the money. But that would be the risk associated with any kind of crowdfunding, wouldn't it ?
Has anyone tried doing it? How did it go? What are the potential or real issues?

That would be a good idea if you do it solely for yourself but if your asking some money to do it then it maybe suspicious act to do since people would provably wait for long time before the real estate properties price will rise and we didn't know on where to reach you up since we didn't know you personally aswell as we didn't know if you really buy some of it. So for this inquiry might better if you think for yourself and don't ask for funds since its not a good idea mate.

The idea of crowdfunding property investments sounds like a good idea, and could potentially be a profitable venture. This is true: "the property belongs to the coin issuer" (don't know if it's "legally" his though) and could very likely happen because of how easy it is to steal and transfer cryptos anonymously. However, if the creator can establish some kind of credibility (having a legitimate company that demonstrates transparency and that it has safeguards/legal procedures in place to assure the public that there is some accountability with regards to the funds), then I think the trust problem can be mitigated.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: May 16, 2017, 11:12:49 AM
I think the price of ETH $1500 is impossible.

the first thing about price is coming from its supply and demand and that is true for literary anything in the world. from a loaf of bread to the most expensive things on earth.

now bitcoin has only 16 million coins available and will have 21 million after a long long time. and all this time it has gathered a lot of deamand. even big countries are accepting it as a legal way of payment. aka a currency. now bitcoin with this supply and this ever growing demand is barely worth $1600

now lets talk about ethereum. it already has nearly 92 million coins available and it has no maximum amount. until the end of this year it will probably have 150 million coins and growing. the demand however has always been restricted to two things:
1. traders buying it on exchanges. to dump later on.
2. newbies who are looking for profit buying ETH to invest in a scam ICO
both of these demands have an expiration date. and with this supply and this dwindling demand prices can only drop.

in short you can only dream about $1500 for eth Grin
They told the same when it was 8$. Wink

I think bitcoin might be trading at 15-20x the price of ether right now, but in terms of market cap, the difference is actually much less (btc has mkt cap of 28bil vs ethereum 8bil).

That said, I think it's pretty unlikely ether can ever get to $1500, because it would be hard to imagine ethereum's total market cap becoming 4-5 times the entire size of current bitcoin's entire market any time in the near future.
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