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801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 22, 2023, 10:06:36 PM
                          Aston villa Vs  Sheffield United

Aston villa aren't playing as if they need a win, they seem to unprepared to take the lead even if they are playing at home, there is no intensity nor any form of seriousness from the aston villa side despite all the possessions they have all through the game, they really dont seem ready to get to the top of the table yet, maybe not tonight or maybe never, i dont consider  them a potential contender for the title judging by whats happened tonight and if aston villa is the only team left to chase arsenal in the title race then its gonna be a smooth sail for the gunner allthrough.
A 1-1 draw was a fair one though, considering that they where losing up till towards die minute before they had a breakthrough.
802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 22, 2023, 08:55:00 PM
But about Napoli, if Napoli manage to stay in the top four of course, that result is good enough because yes, just to stay in the top four is a difficult job for Napoli this season. Therefore, if Napoli are able to finish in the top four this season for me it is already a good result, because of course it is difficult for Napoli to defend the title.
It seems that it is difficult for Napoli to defend their title so it is possible that this season they will fail to win the title again and let Juventus and Inter Milan fight for the title this season, Napoli must be able to correct all the mistakes that have been made in several matches with bad results and it's not satisfying for their fans, changing several coaches still doesn't make any better changes, I think Napoli should be able to focus on maintaining their position in the top four, it seems that is their last hope apart from winning the league this season

Title defence is one of the most tedious task in football nowadays and Napoli's case is not exception, and am not surprised seeing them struggle the way they are doing this season but I expect to see them finish at the top four in the table log so they can have a place in the champions league, at least they deserve that even if there was a change in the coaching crew which i think is responsible for their recent decline but i think they will be fine as soon as because such is expected whenever a new coaching crew comes on board in any team, but as for the title race, count napoli out, they are not anywhere near that circle this season.
803  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Abeg Na true say say porthacourt Refinery don start dey work? on: December 22, 2023, 06:48:32 PM
For our brothers and sisters wey dey stay around eleme  or wey get person around there make una confirm this matter,because like this I no believe anything wey dey comot from this government dem mouth. And person just ask me this question this morning based on say I be Rivers person but I confuse I swear.so may Graduates needs job and dey wait to get update so dem fit put head of available openings..
Omo I see for news say the refinery don start operation but I no know if na eleme refinery or Abi na the port Harcourt own, but I no really put interest for the refinery matter because say, presidential spoke person talk say wether we refine the product locally or we import am, the price go still stay the same, Omo that talk pain me well well, i no come send if the product them refine am for Nigeria or not. Because watin the need to come tell us the say local refinery don dey work when we cannot get the product at a cheaper rate.
804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 22, 2023, 02:00:44 PM
For Manchester United this is another big and important game and I think this is especially true for ten Hag. If he wins it, he will again manage to stay close to the qualifiers for the UEFA competitions, but if he loses he will drop further. Against one of the closest competitors in the league now another loss would be devastating and could trigger the bosses to make some decision before this year ends.
The UEFA Champions League have become the main ultimate target of every elite clubs in these European leagues. Manchester United will face Westham United this weekend, who's wining? Remember the Hammers got humiliated 5-1 from Liverpool and I see everything wrong to watch pure defeats coming on the track of Manchester United. I hope Erik Ten Hag is planning solid position to ensure his side is base on winning every matches that crossed their path because the fans can't stand to watch the Red Devils lose another game.
Considering the recent results of Manchester United, I don't think the club can afford to lose more matches in the English Premier League. Like I said before, I think the manager of the club Erik Ten Hag is absolutely lucky to still remain as the manager of the club after they were eliminated from the UEFA Champions League competition during the group stage in a group that contained teams like Copenhagen, Galatasaray and European giants Bayern Munich.

Manchester United play against West Ham this weekend and in their quest to finish the season in the top four of the league table, they'll definitely do anything possible to win that game. West Ham have been impressive this season and I won't be surprised to see them defeat Manchester United in that game. So I think it'll be a very difficult game for both teams but I'll go for a Manchester United win or draw

Trusting Manchester United to win the game against West Ham, is something i find hard to agree with, Manchester United are too inconsistent for you give them direct victory, because as it's stand now, i cannot pin point the exact game pattern of Manchester United, so I cannot say this is a strategy they use week in week out that has been successful. Sincerely Eric Ten hag is absolutely lucky to still remain as the manager, because Manchester United fans are seriously running out of patient, as they cannot wait to hear that ten hag has been shown the exit door. Looking at the group members of Manchester United champions League group, you will agree with me that, Ten Hag losing out at the group stage was really embarrassing, at least they would have gone pass that stage, maybe round 16 before losing out.
805  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: What opportunities do you see around you? on: December 21, 2023, 11:21:35 PM
In a bit to feed the Nigerian population, the vast lands we have that are not being cultivated is not because of the fact that there are no farmers but it's because of their unavailability of farming tools like mechanized farming system, because you don't expect holes and machete to be used to feed the multitude of crowd we have in our country,  so if we can come together as a people to form some co-operation in a bid to help the local farming system by introducing machines to either farmers or those of them that want to go into farming it will help to boost our agricultural sector. Another angle to some of these problems is the hike in price of goods and services and  inflation which have affected the economy due to the hike in fuel price,  which has multiplier effect on the economy negatively.
806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 21, 2023, 10:10:26 PM
Liverpool vs Arsenal will certainly be a crucial match, a direct clash that could make it clear who really rules in the Premier League. Statistics in hand it is difficult to say which of the two will be able to win, the technical differences are really minimal. But I think Liverpool have a more compact team than Arsenal. On December 23rd we will know who can be elected Winter Champion
Going by statistics it's definitely going to be difficult been able to predict this match probably almost unpredictable because the statistics Will be given both team so many similarities in performance and other statistics this season so far and no doubts these two team have really done so much that has earned them various spots on the league table this season.

I would want to look away from the regular statistical analysis, looking from the psychology analysis, the last premier league game Liverpool played was against Manchester united which ended in a goalless draw and yesterday in their EFL match against westham, they won by 5 goals, this could tell they have an average confidence In the premier such that can't be seen as really strong enough meanwhile Arsenal  won Brighton in their most recent premier league game by two goals with Brighton getting a single goal, but against Liverpool Arsenal will be playing from away so some how this may tell ok their confidence and mentality but then they still have a good psychology tho not in a 100% good form,  home advantage is the edge Liverpool has got in this game but the gunners will definitely fight to get a point at least .
Looking at the psychological confidence the arsenal players have now, i think liverpool will have a very difficult game, yeah looking at the way Liverpool played against Manchester United the other day, we might give them some credence because they played with some level of dominance against Manchester United but the playing pattern of Manchester United and Arsenal are quite different, however the Arsenal team have a lot of defensive and attacking midfielders that can easily create chances and score, Liverpool on the other hand will try to have some defensive and attacking mindset more like a counter attack mindset, it's really going to be an interesting game to watch, because it will be very intriguing.
Any team trying to play Arsenal using a counter attack is probably risking the game. I have seen it several times, when Manchester United tried it, Chelsea tried it and Luton as well. Any team that want to challenge Arsenal strongly should focus more on breaking and dominating the gunners midfield properly. Only through that way there will be opportunities to score and handicapped Arsenal in the game. Liverpool is a team i believe that loves the counter strategy but they should remember that Arsenal has intelligent defenders which they may not succeed in their counter plans.
Counter attack has been the game Liverpool normally plays, so that pattern of choking the midfield is what Manchester City normally plays, so that was why they had a clash that was more than that of the titans when they met Arsenal, because both teams we are fighting to control the midfield and create more chances at the front. Liverpool will try to fight because it's a big game and they wouldn't want to be seen as the weak side but most people are already seeing them on that light.
807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 21, 2023, 06:28:45 PM
Liverpool vs Arsenal will certainly be a crucial match, a direct clash that could make it clear who really rules in the Premier League. Statistics in hand it is difficult to say which of the two will be able to win, the technical differences are really minimal. But I think Liverpool have a more compact team than Arsenal. On December 23rd we will know who can be elected Winter Champion
Going by statistics it's definitely going to be difficult been able to predict this match probably almost unpredictable because the statistics Will be given both team so many similarities in performance and other statistics this season so far and no doubts these two team have really done so much that has earned them various spots on the league table this season.

I would want to look away from the regular statistical analysis, looking from the psychology analysis, the last premier league game Liverpool played was against Manchester united which ended in a goalless draw and yesterday in their EFL match against westham, they won by 5 goals, this could tell they have an average confidence In the premier such that can't be seen as really strong enough meanwhile Arsenal  won Brighton in their most recent premier league game by two goals with Brighton getting a single goal, but against Liverpool Arsenal will be playing from away so some how this may tell ok their confidence and mentality but then they still have a good psychology tho not in a 100% good form,  home advantage is the edge Liverpool has got in this game but the gunners will definitely fight to get a point at least .
Looking at the psychological confidence the arsenal players have now, i think liverpool will have a very difficult game, yeah looking at the way Liverpool played against Manchester United the other day, we might give them some credence because they played with some level of dominance against Manchester United but the playing pattern of Manchester United and Arsenal are quite different, however the Arsenal team have a lot of defensive and attacking midfielders that can easily create chances and score, Liverpool on the other hand will try to have some defensive and attacking mindset more like a counter attack mindset, it's really going to be an interesting game to watch, because it will be very intriguing.
808  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Glo and it's network wahala on: December 21, 2023, 06:02:24 PM
my country pipo abeg I no just understand this Glo network again almost all the time them go just disappoint you even when you get enough unused data since two days now I no fit use my Glo sim way I just sub data for no be say after now wen the network come alive sef them no go even compensate us for all the troubles way we pass through these few days sef o, Omo Glo is really frustrating I no know if na only me they experience am na why I bring the matter hear make we deliberate on am because e no really gel at all make them improve their standard this na one of the major reason people believe Mtn pass them no be say Mtn no dey get network issue o but e no dey come constantly like Glo, Glo should invest heavily on mast all over the country like Mtn if them one compete with them
My brother this tin way u dey talk, I dey experience am well well for Glo network, I had data on my line but I wouldn't be able to use it, I really got frustrated, though i have other lines like MTN but omo the way them dey drain data no be here oh, i can confidently use Glo 2g for over a week, but i can never try that one with MTN, its as if they don't give you complete amount of data when you buy. Glo have their lapses but I still feel they give good amount of data that is sustainable.
809  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Work on your habit: on: December 20, 2023, 11:42:09 PM
The quest for Momentary satisfaction and urge is something that has become a major problem in our society and we find more people doing things that get them excited at the moment and face a huge consequence in the future that is far greater than the momentary fulfilment they received at the point of performing the act.

Individuals in their 20s are engaging in act like smoking, use of enhancement drugs and consumption of sugary substances, [their is a friend of mine that must take at least two bottles of sugary drink everyday and doesn't seem bothered of the effect], and so many other vices that will hunt them down as soon as they are getting old.

As we de travel through life, no allow the momentary comfort when doing certain things go give you take destroy your future for you o! Ask those girls when been abort at a tender age and no come later get pikin again, them go yarn you real matters. I just want tell us say make we no go engage in stuff when go make us kpai before our time or even live a frustrating life as we de grow old oh

Even as you de prepare to celebrate xmas and new year, no go de eat anyhow come carry problem come back o, try use your head and know say anything when you do, you go still face the consequences latter on in life.

Let's celebrate the season wisely.
At every early stage in life, it is always difficult for teenagers not to engage in youthful exuberance, this exuberance are what makes them to get that momentary satisfaction that they want, some can also be as a result of peer pressure or societal pressure just in a bid for them to feel among their peers. And most times some of the habits that  are developed during teenage age stays till adulthood.
Na why we need to dey check our pikin the kind of habit way them don dey dey use to, if na watin way dey detrimental, we go begin correct then so that next time, them no go do am.
810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 20, 2023, 03:48:14 PM
then what about Manchester City, they are becoming more and more worrying day by day and are very far from their usual performance like at the start of the season, they are losing a lot of points, and yesterday's match they only got one point against Crystal Palace because the match ended in a draw, Guardiola's squad couldn't added more goals, and ended with a score of 2-2.

but it is reported that KDB and Erling Haaland are ready to return to the field because they can be said to have recovered from their injuries, and is it possible that with this Manchester City can return to the top of the standings?

There isn't much to say about it, and there's no guarantee they'll return to the top of the league. After the players return, they will still have to go through the process of recovering themselves back in the field, which can be the most difficult part of it all. Long periods of inactivity always have an impact on a player's performance when they returns to the pitch. With the way the top teams are performing, there is no guarantee that they will return to the top of the table so easily, even with their entire squad back. All I can say is that the way they lost points to small teams will not happen again, and they will try to minimize how they lose points to those smaller teams.
You cannot say the way they lost point to small teams will not happen again, this is football anything is possible to happen, those teams you call small clubs are the hurdles you need to get pass through before winning the league, last season their losses and draws weren't that much at this point in time of the season, even with return of KDB into the squad, it will not automatically make them spring up into winning ways, it will take time and that time it will take other clubs too like arsenal are tightening their loopholes.
811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? on: December 20, 2023, 03:04:26 PM
So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



For beginners, the quote seems like something that is sarcastic, and it could as well make them look like desperate people if they apply it entirely without caution, of course it is believed that every gambler is one step away in making generational wealth, but taking a loan for gambling, it's something i wouldn't recommend, it is good to only gamble with what you can afford to lose not going to take loan because loan is subject to repayment, so what if you don't win because as a gambler is not every game that you will win, how do you repay your loan if you haven't won any game.
812  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: New year resolution on: December 19, 2023, 11:06:57 PM
My country people good evening inside this evening, hope everyone is fine, today I want talk about new year resolution.

The year don almost end, as a naija blood we be, most of us dy normally say our new year resolution towards the end of the year, but I wan ask, how many of us dy fit keep to it?
Brothers and sisters i know say e no easy because las las we be still human being, we get addiction wey we vow to let go , but one way or the other, we still dy do am, I no know if anyone get similar experience?
My brother, new year resolution no easy to keep oh, I no how many resolution I don try keep For myself, Omo I no dey fit keep to some, but I dey try keep some of them, but true true, if you really want to keep the resolution, you need to be very determined oh, so that nothing go distract your pursuit. Talking about addiction, Omo anything concerning addiction no easy to let go oh, sometimes you need a therapist to walk you down that road of trying to stop whatever you've been addicted to.
813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 19, 2023, 10:55:01 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed before or not.
 
Reading about gambling addiction I don't think it's a new topic, but fitting to be in here, I just want to ask: between casino gambling, in-house gambling, and one-on-one gambling with physical players available on the table, which among these is more likely to turn someone into a gambling addict if the person doesn't have self-control in all his gambling activities?
 
Now are days I see much or all this in house gamblers becoming addicted and acting weird over gambling results, and walking down into some betting shop, you will see most of those gamblers spending their whole day in the gambling shop, which made me have the above question. I know any form of gambling can produce gambling addicts, but among all, there is one that is most common, which is what I want to hear from others.

I'm trying to wrap my head around what you mean by in-house gambling and one on one gambling, however I think the most attractive of all you've mentioned should be casino gambling. If you walk into a casino, you are likely to see same person's coming to gamble over and over again within a week interval, but then I cannot outrightly say they are addicted, it can actually be as a result of the fact that, they are regular winners, Because hence your good with your predictions, you can either be booking your games online or you visit the casino physically. The other form of gambling that you mentioned about one on one, I don't think a lot of person would want to see it as professional gambling, because it's always results to physical confrontation at the end within the players.
814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have any one had experiences with banned bank/providers because of gambling? on: December 19, 2023, 04:15:08 PM
I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

I think you're brother most have gone against their rules, maybe because of the gambling activity that the account has been involved in, they're either suspected it to be fraudulent, which your brother needs to let them know, that's if he gets across to the customer service.
But at least they are supposed to do their own due diligence before taking such action on the account, or getting across to the customer to ask some questions as to whatever they suspect before going on to ban the account. I will advise to your brother should continue in trying to reach their customer service, they have a lot of explanation to make.
815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 19, 2023, 03:50:56 PM
Inter Milan continue three consecutives matches in Serie A and special achievement success made clean sheet last three matches, although have many public doubtness with Simone Inzaghi's squad but they have success managed top position in domestic league and qualified to knock out round in champion league. Inter Milan have top level striker with Lutaro Martinez and Marcus Thuran have scored 22 goals with Martinez 15 goals and Thuran 7 goals beside has Hakan Çalhanoğlu scored 7 goals.
So far, Inter Milan has only suffered one defeat against Sassuolo and Inter Milan holds a good record so far in Serie A because they are one of the most consistent teams. Martinez, Marcus Thuran and Hakan Çalhanoğlu are three important players who have brought Inter Milan to the top of the standings and the level of play of these three players is also quite good this season. Simone Inzaghi answered his criticism and produced quite good results for Inter Milan and now he is increasingly busy with a fairly busy match schedule in all competitions.

Current standings, Inter Milan have four points remaining from Juventus and they can take advantage keep defend the first standings, I think with advantage several matches later against not really strong teams has potential for Inter Milan keep on the first position and hope the rival teams Juventus and Milan loss their points.
Simone Inzaghi should try to make some rotations because they have a busy match schedule and because the next few matches are much easier then I think Inter Milan will benefit much more. Only in January Inter Milan have much tougher matches where they will face AS Roma and Juventus.
Inter seems very well focused this year. They are very ambitious for the championship and the players are united. Of course, the players who score goals attract attention, but I think they also play great matches in the defensive zone. They do not give opposing forwards a chance to score. Their goalkeeper is no longer a concern after Onana left. There is an Inter that is completely focused on the Scudetto.

Right now  inter Milan are the best team in the serie A, they are picking points both at home and away, scoring goals, they have an amazing squad and it would be pretty difficult for any team to beat them at the moment because they attack and also defend very well as a team and that's why they hardly concede much goals, I believe they can win the scudetto this season if they maintain this form, though the point gap between them and their closest rivals is not that much, but I think they are currently on advantage side because of their style of play.
816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 19, 2023, 03:27:57 PM
It's spectacular what Girona has achieved this season, a small Club between the giants Barcelona and Real Madrid.
No one expected Girona to compete at the top of the La Liga standings.
And based on points scored, Girona is the best team in Europe's top five leagues.
It's great to see a club that plays football well and has its style.
Michel Sanchez deserves appreciation for his hard work. He built the current team over the past two years.
The consistency built by the Girona players and the Girona coach this season has really provided very satisfying results for themselves in La Liga. Girona is not in any other competition this season apart from La Liga so Girona can make quite amazing tactics this season in every match in La Liga so it is not surprising to see Girona able to be at the top of the La Liga standings by leaving Real Madrid and Barcelona behind. However, Girona does not have to feel proud about the current results because Real Madrid and Barcelona are still very dangerous teams in La Liga who even still have the potential to disturb Girona at the top of the standings this season.


The entire coaching staff and players of the Girona FC should be given kudos for what they have achieved so far in the Spanish laliga, for the character and hard work they have put in to be where they are today, especially in a league like this that have been dominated by only these two giants (Barca and Madrid) for decades, this goes a long way to show that, no matter the obstacle, any football club can thrive in Europe their financial status not withstanding, for years it has been between Barcelona and Real Madrid, but now we have a team like Girona at the top of the table, it's unbelievable yet true and it's worth emulating and I also see a similar situation happening in the German bundesliga as Bayern Leverkusen seem to be replicating same feat in Germany.
817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 19, 2023, 12:48:29 PM
They are consistently performing well in every match. And the team is unbeaten in the Bundesliga so far. The title battle between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen has become quite intense.

A small mistake makes Bayern Munich have a points difference with Leverkusen. Against Frankfrut, who is not too strong, Munich lost. It shouldn't happen because of mistakes like this that sometimes make regrets. And this happened to Dortmund last season who failed to win the League because of a draw in the end match. Indeed, maybe these 2 teams will compete a lot until the end. At present, Leverkusen has never lost, so they are also strong candidates. In February they will meet, maybe this can be decisive.
Bayern Munich has 1 match missing and they only lost in that match. Currently, if they win their missing match, there will be only a 1 point difference between them and Leverkusen. We can talk about a fierce competition. Leverkusen should have won the match they drew last week. Now there is not much difference. I think the points competition between them will continue like this until the match in February.

In as much as I love Bayern Munich I wouldn't mind seeing the Leverkusen side lift the bundesliga trophy this season, although both sides have been consistent fighting to retain their place but Bayern Munich have had some issues this season in the domestic league having dropped point severally in this campaign so far which is something they are not really known for, Bayern Munich have been dominant in the German bundesliga for some decades and is surprising to see them perform below their standard but it's also good to see another team emerge to help strengthen the competition so that it won't be league where only one team always win the title.
818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 19, 2023, 12:24:46 PM
I think Aston Villa's victory over Brentford was lucky because Brentford took the lead towards the end of the first half thanks to a goal scored by Lewis Potter. However, in the second half, Brentford lost one of their players, namely Ben Mee, in the 71st minute, which made the direction of the match completely belong to Aston Villa. Even after only playing with 10 people, Brentford's defense became weak and as a result Aston Villa managed to score 2 goals through Moreno and Watkins.

Victory in the away match with a score of 1-2 for Aston Villa and even though in the final minutes of the match they also had to lose a player due to receiving a red card, but that would not threaten Aston Villa's defense. But indeed losing Boubacar Kamara due to the red card will be quite detrimental to Aston Villa in the next match. This result also solidifies Aston Villa's position in 3rd place in the standings with the same points as Liverpool.

On the flip side, I think Aston villa deserves the victory they got, having found their way into the game in the second half with the first goal which got them back into the game and the late goal which also gave them the win is a pointer that villa can also become one of the contenders in the EPL and perhaps clinch a place in champions league, remember how they beat arsenal and Manchester city, so am not surprised how they beat Brentford because I saw it coming despite the fact that the home side lost one of their players which made them lost focus in some part of the game.
819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 07:35:14 PM
Yeah Manchester United where playing a defensive football, but also playing a counter attack game too, the game was more of clash of the titans, as the both teams played brilliantly, though that Red card given to Dallot towards the end of game was very unnecessary, I feel the ref made a mistake on that, onana on the hand performed excellently well today, the shots he saved where really impressive, if not Liverpool would have made it 2 Goals. Liverpool actually played like a home team, they where constantly trying to maintain the pressure on Manchester United. However the game ending goalless draw, was a fair share for both teams.

Jurgen Klopp dissapointed and Erik Ten Hag prosper, his defensive strategy do actually works and they have the best defendlines that could label them to be infront against Liverpool. André Onana deserves his flowers, he made brilliant saves and gave hope for the Red Devils when everyone thought they could end up not having a relevant results. The match was entertaining, and there's presence of high pressures measured by both sides. The match, Liverpool vs Manchester united ended 0-0 with both sides giving everything to record good scores.
I agree with your line of thought, the defensive patterns Ten hag played actually paid of at some point, because i feel he set the formation with a defensive mindset,  even when he introduced rashford to the game it wasn't effective because of the pattern of play he came in to meet, they where all falling back to defend and also running to the front for counter attack, Antony was making good runs from his wing, but had poor passes and crosses to strikers especially whenever he gets close to the goal mouth.
820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 07:12:54 PM
Man Utd proving to be a hard nut to crack. I expected it btw because more often than not Big teams will often lose to smaller teams but deliver world class performance against teams in the top 4. This is becoming a norm especially this season with Chelsea deliver big performances against City, Liverpool and Arsenal but lost at home to Brentford some weeks back.
Anyway, second half is underway. I have my fingers crossed for this half and hope Liverpool finds the net on more than one occasion + 3 points.
Manchester United are playing a completely defensive strategy against Liverpool today. The United Ten Hag is well aware that Manchester United have no chance of winning against Liverpool. That is why he is keen to draw the match 0-0 by playing a defensive strategy.
Manchester United made only two shots in 65 minutes. And only 29% of ball possession. Liverpool's players have been dominating the match so far as well as trying hard to break down Manchester United's defence. But they are not succeeding. Liverpool have had 71% of the ball possession so far and have had a total of 19 shots. It will be very sad for Liverpool fans if Liverpool lose points despite such a good performance.
Yeah Manchester United where playing a defensive football, but also playing a counter attack game too, the game was more of clash of the titans, as the both teams played brilliantly, though that Red card given to Dallot towards the end of game was very unnecessary, I feel the ref made a mistake on that, onana on the hand performed excellently well today, the shots he saved where really impressive, if not Liverpool would have made it 2 Goals. Liverpool actually played like a home team, they where constantly trying to maintain the pressure on Manchester United. However the game ending goalless draw, was a fair share for both teams.

We don't usually see such poor defensive gameplay in the Premier League. And so I was very disappointed with Manchester United's performance in today's match. The players of Manchester United did not make any attempt to score. Manchester United is not a weak team. Despite having a strong squad, Manchester United's performance has been poor. But I would have been happy if Liverpool had won. Because in today's match, we are only dominated by Liverpool. I saw 69% possession of the ball by Liverpool players. At the same time, Liverpool players made a total of 34 shots. Even then he could not score a single goal.
However, Liverpool dropped 1 point behind Arsenal due to the loss of points in this match. Liverpool lost the top spot in the points table.
You shouldn't be disappointed by Manchester United performance, they've been inconsistent lately, remember they lost their last match, so draw against Liverpool isn't a bad idea. What is the essence of having a strong squad without winning games. So I feel they where even lucky in this game, because Liverpool where played as a home team with so much control on the ball leaving Manchester United on the defensive side.
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