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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] UTRUST The future of online payments is here. on: October 24, 2017, 12:30:31 AM
Alice sells the private key of her Ethereum wallet to Bob. Bob pays through UTRUST. Alice is notified that the money is in escrow and sends the private key to Bob. Bob claims the key does not work. Alice opens a dispute.

Tell me how the UTRUST Mediator resolves this transaction.

Good question I haven't thought so much about. But you are right, a situation like this can hardly be solved probably. But maybe if Alice gives the private key to the mediator? Something someone would probably never would like to do...

You already figured out giving your private key to the mediator has a risk. The mediator may take the funds in the address, then refund Bob. Alice will say the mediator stole the money, but it is her word against both Bob's and the mediator's.

There is a sort of a built-in solution for these kind of transactions in the form of signatures and multi-signature wallets. Several escrow protocols based on signatures have been developed, for example the 2-of-3 multisignature. Some of those are still vulnerable to other kinds of attacks, such as extortion.

But there is not a word about escrow protocols, flaws and vulnerabilities in the UTRUST whitepaper.

Well maybe they haven't thought about this kind of problem and thought a mediator would be able to handle all problems which could occur. Hopefully they will think about it again and try to get a good solution for this or maybe they just forgot to write about it.
As far as i know , utrust will handle buyer protection manually, maybe they will think about his.
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 24, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
Hello everybody! We would like to announce that SCT is now listed in Etherdelta. In addition, SCT will be listed on several exchanges after the ICO. We have already contracted with three exchanges, but Etherdelta is the only one which we are allowed to name at this point. Rest of the exchanges are revealed after the ICO.

nice. Etherdelta is not bad for start.
Etherdelta is the place for almost all erc20 tokens to get started  Grin
803  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [WTS] Akun Member to Hero Member on: October 24, 2017, 12:17:38 AM
kok invalid token smua gan?
804  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: (WTS) - Jr.Member Pot full member on: October 24, 2017, 12:16:54 AM
boleh liat link bctalkaccountpricer nya gan?
805  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: October 23, 2017, 11:39:57 PM
Address
Code:
1J856FdMuRvHEen152pxQWwe7yWnuuR1GC

Message
Code:
This is my address
toolucky98
24/10/2017

Signature
Code:
HLYKHNWTsG74Aacl7p142ooJkzzg5UO8hdQrsXr8MFQ3aZkgfPSQe9ow6EO0VRKBFI3QkX3ZF5xQrxwsgd6EYPs=

Please quote and verify, thanks  Grin
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MIROCANA.COM - FIRST ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR TRANSPARENT INVESTING on: October 23, 2017, 11:09:50 PM
I think of the IA is powerful, it would be hard a human to predict the bot, if MIROCANA has really powerfull algorithm I think the benefit can be really huge, that kind of project can make a lot of money in the future.
As far as I know predicting bot moves is impossible. It's just too much variables and indicators, especially for human Cool
Well, the best trader is a trader without any bot for now  Cool
But its true that bot can help ordinary traders.
If someone is professional trader then he don't need to use this kind of tools but most of investors don't have enough time and knowledge Wink
Yes, for investor its pretty good.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 23, 2017, 10:46:09 PM
Companies will pay for data in DAT tokens or in other cryptocurrencies (ETH, BTC) ?

I don't know how will companies pay to datum, it probably will be on fiat.

But datum will pay in dat to people who it buys their data from.

The companies will probably get a choice in what currency they will need to pay.
DAT tokens, BTC, ETH or FIAT would be my guess.
Is that somewhere described in the Whitepaper?
Whitepaper pages 15 sir, i think it will be only with DAT, so you need to buy DAT first.
808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MIROCANA.COM - FIRST ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR TRANSPARENT INVESTING on: October 23, 2017, 10:32:30 PM
I think of the IA is powerful, it would be hard a human to predict the bot, if MIROCANA has really powerfull algorithm I think the benefit can be really huge, that kind of project can make a lot of money in the future.
As far as I know predicting bot moves is impossible. It's just too much variables and indicators, especially for human Cool
Well, the best trader is a trader without any bot for now  Cool
But its true that bot can help ordinary traders.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Get ready for Gameflip Token Sale! FLIP pre-sale begins on Friday, October 13 on: October 23, 2017, 10:18:08 PM
It will be possible to trade virtual goods for pc to consolle and viceversa? I'm not a consolle player so I don't know how the virtual goods market is there
I didn't realize about that. I just play few console games, but that sounds good to me.

You will be able to trade on console also.
From whitepaper: ... a new decentralized ecosystem where digital goods on all gaming platforms – mobile, PC, console, and VR/AR – can be sold as liquid assets...

Sorty my english is not very good. I understood that virtual trading was goint to be possible in those platforms but not  mixing them.

Exactly what I was asking. For example, I have some Fifa coins on my ps4 account and I want to sell them to a Fifa 18 pc user
Yes of course, as you can see on their website : https://gameflip.com/browse?page=1&status=onsale&term=fifa
Many people have put it on the site to trade/sell it.

I took a look and it doesn't solve what I'm asking for. There are Fifa points PS4, Fifa points Origin etc...I was saying Fifa points, stop, I play Fifa on PC and I put for sell x amount of points, a PS4 user look at my advertisement and he buys Fifa points. Right now a PS4 user can only buy Fifa points PS4. It's more understandable now?
Well if you cant transfer it across the platform, you cant sell it.
You should contact the fifa dev, not gameflip.
Its from the game itself.
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DAO] The Movement | Unstoppable Organization | Get Invited until Oct. 31 on: October 23, 2017, 07:12:19 PM
Can i update my rank and eth address?
Please send a PM to Dropper.
oh okay thank you
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Get ready for Gameflip Token Sale! FLIP pre-sale begins on Friday, October 13 on: October 23, 2017, 07:09:32 PM
It will be possible to trade virtual goods for pc to consolle and viceversa? I'm not a consolle player so I don't know how the virtual goods market is there
I didn't realize about that. I just play few console games, but that sounds good to me.

You will be able to trade on console also.
From whitepaper: ... a new decentralized ecosystem where digital goods on all gaming platforms – mobile, PC, console, and VR/AR – can be sold as liquid assets...

Sorty my english is not very good. I understood that virtual trading was goint to be possible in those platforms but not  mixing them.

Exactly what I was asking. For example, I have some Fifa coins on my ps4 account and I want to sell them to a Fifa 18 pc user
Yes of course, as you can see on their website : https://gameflip.com/browse?page=1&status=onsale&term=fifa
Many people have put it on the site to trade/sell it.
812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 23, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
https://blog.datum.org/wednesday-weekly-a-surprise-for-our-community-c3928dad93f0 i do not know if published here but alpha screens and report looks good
So its alpha stage already. Thats good. Hope all issues with possible fake data and data verification will be solved.
https://blog.datum.org/wednesday-weekly-a-surprise-for-our-community-c3928dad93f0 i do not know if published here but alpha screens and report looks good
So its alpha stage already. Thats good. Hope all issues with possible fake data and data verification will be solved.
Let's hope we will be able to test it soon. I think it would be very good if they give us the opportunity to test it before the ICO.
Datum app is already available in play store but still not recommended to try, its highly insecure.
https://demo.datum.org/
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Get ready for Gameflip Token Sale! FLIP pre-sale begins on Friday, October 13 on: October 23, 2017, 01:34:30 PM
Yes December is not a so bad time to close an ico. I think even after the fork the market will be better than at the moment, the end of November could even be good I think. Gameflip is also a very nice project, i have no worries for the sucess of the ico.
After this fork drama, the crypto market circulation will be better.
814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 23, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
Companies will pay for data in DAT tokens or in other cryptocurrencies (ETH, BTC) ?

I don't know how will companies pay to datum, it probably will be on fiat.

But datum will pay in dat to people who it buys their data from.

It´s the only possible way to make the business grow big and quick in my opinion.
So, i definitely think yes
Process : Buy Data --- Role : Value Exchange --- Feature : Pay DAT Tokens to buy data.
Whitepaper pages 15
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀 on: October 23, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
is there a pilot or demo version out yet?

Yep. You may try one at product.modultrade.com
Here is the proper link : https://product.modultrade.com/
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: October 23, 2017, 11:15:25 AM

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Yes, actually %90 of the questions in here is already answered in the whitepaper but you can't cure laziness Smiley

About the ico date, I don't think there will be another postponing.

If you have a community willing to help people always ask questions. People ask me all the time IRL for things they can google in 1 second Cheesy

People are lazy, I also ask for things can I can search for meself.
UTRUST has a great community so we welcome all newcomers to this project by answering all questions Smiley

Its difficult for newcomers to browse through all these pages.
There are some newcomers who come and still not too interested in the project they went to. If we answer their questions, maybe we can make them interested and then they start doing research and reading whitepaper.
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SOMA - The Social Marketplace on: October 23, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
I believe that this partnership will benefit both companies, but not only,also bring users benefit,just waiting for  further developments...
Yes of course, they are very compatible and complement each other
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[BOUNTY][ICO]🌟 GIZER - The Global Gaming Network 🌐 ► Presale 20th Oct. 🔥 on: October 23, 2017, 09:34:31 AM
When will open the admission in bounty campaign again? It says that it will take a several days, and since October 10 it's been 12 days...
+1. I'd like to join.
several days? maybe several weeks  Grin
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DAO] The Movement | Unstoppable Organization | Get Invited until Oct. 31 on: October 23, 2017, 09:29:39 AM
Can i update my rank and eth address?
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PLAYKEY: DECENTRALIZED CLOUD GAMING PLATFORM on: October 23, 2017, 06:52:38 AM
I try the demo, play 'SID MEIER’S CIVILIZATION VI DEMO'  for a while , works perfect on my MAC , running very smooth.

Use PlayKey i can the PC only games , really exciting.
This project awesome

That's a game I want so badly to play but I can't because my laptop is too old :/ And even if I upgrade it wouldn't run smoothly.
Too bad my internet connection currently is so fucking slow, I would love to test the demo myself :/
With slow Internet you can not play comfortably even on a new platform
Yes, you cant play smoothly with slow internet connection even with this platform.
This is more like you compensate your low spec pc with your high speed connection.
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