I respect all 3 opinions about this subject, especially from MaliceRed, and i have one of my own.
I my case, there is no problem to withdraw all entries from all threads like this, and to wait customers on my website:
www.logocreator.us , but i have some limitations like i can't recieve payments tru PayPal for sometime now, i love crypto world so i found a way to be in crypto world and to offer my designs for btc. I know that so far my designs was undervalued, and time is coming when i will make a good, fair fixed price in BTC connected with $.
And yes it is true, i love to design. Sometimes i am designing for fun.
Also i am web designer too.
There is cases when some of forum members didn't pay for my work. I don't want to elaborate more about them.
And yes as LitcoinCollector says, hard times coming.
Thanks to all for this conversation, at least i see that i am not alone here.