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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Star Trek Crypto Coin Information Thread on: December 31, 2013, 12:08:19 AM
Wanted to throw this out there...

Updated my GPL and had to close and relaunch to replace the peers.dat file with the original i backed up... opened too soon before the previous instance closed and got the message it couldn't lock the GPL.exe file...

then it states NOVACOIN may still be running.

No biggie, just thought I would let you know find/replace missed that error message.
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! LAUNCHING 12/30 @ 1PM EST on: December 30, 2013, 11:44:45 PM
no one got forked yet?

damn.

i guess the startup method works.

It's unfortunate that we had the series of unfortunate events overshadow this fact. Sad

One pool did post it managed to find itself on a fork... but quickly redownloaded the chain and synced back in with everyone.
803  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 29, 2013, 06:47:01 AM
Question about the H60 from Corsair... pump speed can be adjusted through the BIOS or firmware or in Windows when this is plugged into a motherboard for an actual CPU.

Is there something I can add to my batch files that will tell the 3 pin header on the Chili to lower the power so it lowers the pump rate? Others have mentioned this helps increase the hashrate due to the fluid picking up more heat and spending more time in the radiator to dissipate it.
I'm not sure on the H60, but my Water 2.0 Extreme has a USB plug that you plug into one of the USB headers on a motherboard, and you can control the fan speed separate of the pump speed. Is the H60 like that? If so, the Chili can't control it. All it does is PWM the fan, with a 5V minimum so the tach operates properly. I don't believe the cgminer fan control will work though, the fan is just controlled based on temperature at this point.

The fan on the radiator has its own three pin (albeit that it is a 4 pin head it has the guides and works fine on three pins) that is plugged into the first set of pins on the Chili (the set closer to the USB port) and the pump is plugged into the three pin that is closest to the power input. What I read on the Corsair forums was that in BIOS it sees it as any other device on the fan three pin... a fan that it can scale down.

So, if you are saying the that 3 pin fan header is only controlled by what temp is read... there is no way to just set it at a stable target?
804  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 29, 2013, 01:44:59 AM
Deamonfox are you running thermal pad or thermal grease?

Both... pads on chips AND the compound that was on the block when it arrived. Earlier in this thread others had noted using the TIM with grease on top helped make an even better contact since some 1st gen boards had chips that were not level.
805  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 28, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
Question about the H60 from Corsair... pump speed can be adjusted through the BIOS or firmware or in Windows when this is plugged into a motherboard for an actual CPU.

Is there something I can add to my batch files that will tell the 3 pin header on the Chili to lower the power so it lowers the pump rate? Others have mentioned this helps increase the hashrate due to the fluid picking up more heat and spending more time in the radiator to dissipate it.
806  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 28, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
Same.

7 shares = 0.00587398 BTC this week.

That is 0.00083914 BTC per share.

I am not sure where I can see current bonds held but last weeks was 58,174 bonds so...

(58,174 X 0.00083914 BTC) X (4/3) = ~65.088173813 BTC for this week before LRMs cut.

At current difficulty, 23 TH/s for 7 days should have yielded ~68.5643 before pool fees on average.

Pretty damn close. Not a bad week I would say.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RazorLove Cryptocurrency Services - DBL, CENT, & FOO/BAR Updates on: December 28, 2013, 06:16:52 AM

Let's move along now.

1.How do you receive Stake?
Do you transfer units of 50 million or less into your wallet and just wait?
Or do you need to enter something into the "command line banking" aspect of your client?
You just wait


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2.Do you need to have your client constantly "on" to receive the state?
Or could you set up yourself to receive stakes,not use the client for several months,and then return to find you have loads of stakes?
As far as I can tell you should be able to leave the client off, however due to the current stake bug you pretty much have to run the client 24/7 (or turn it on before your stake date). Coin age is calculated based on the transaction date, so if you leave it off too long you risk going over the maximum.

Case in point, I found a walled from a few months back that had a couple of pennies in it. Should of staked to several hundred billion but could not because they were so old that the reward was > 999,999,999.

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3. How long does it take to get a stake? I hear numbers ranging from 8 to 27 days.
Between 7 and 14 days

Please read more before posting bad information...

The answer to 2 is "the client must be open and synced in order for the PoS blocks to attempt generation... you can leave the client closed and then open and sync it just before your coindate reaches maturity for stake, and then it will be eligible to do so... but leaving it offline will NEVER generate stake ever. The point of stake is to solidify the network from 51% attacks by keeping wallets online and synced constantly even if you aren't solo mining."

The answer to 3 is "7 days. But that only means your coin blocks are ELIGIBLE to PRODUCE a stake block... it still has to be accepted by the blockchain before it counts and the block can be orphaned forcing another attempt to be made at a later time. The existing issue is Pennies has a maximum tx amount and the insane stake multiplier makes any block of coins over a certain amount ineligible to be stake worthy because the transaction will be rejected by the blockchain when it sees it is over the maximum tx limit. This is fixed in version 10 of the Pennies client and goes into effect with the stake correction that takes place starting January 8th."

Please feel free to correct me if I misstated anything there.

~Daemon

EDITED to reflect 7 day PoS... although I can't seem to find that through any of the links connected to this thread or the other forums.
808  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Black Arrow Minion 28nm DIY Chip Distribution 190/300 on: December 28, 2013, 06:05:37 AM
I was concerned about payment too, so I emailed Matt.

Now I see the post above... OMG Matt way to place some confidence behind this by paying for the batch yourself.

When Jan comes, my BTC is ready so all I need now is to find who is going to go for a multi chip board? Seems it would be a bit too expensive to do single chip boards... not liking the idea of shelling out a possible $2K for boards  just to get 8 chips mining... on top of chip cost.
809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] "BitBaY" Commission Shares thread! on: December 28, 2013, 05:56:30 AM
Happy Holidays!

No OP update nor any further preview but it is understandable... no reason anyone should be busting ass through christmas etc.

Looking forward to a nice update come Jan. 2 though... should make for some interesting feedback!

~Daemon
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Feature Request on: December 28, 2013, 05:18:17 AM
Hi,

Since not all users of this coin are as active as you are, may I ask for a feature in a future wallet version?

Please implement one of the following features:
1) an autoupdate feature which automatically keeps the QT updated without the user doing anything (or with the user just clicking an "update" button which only appears when new updates are available - but where the entire update process is done automatically)
2) a notification feature where the user can enter his eMail address into the wallet and the wallet sends him an eMail when a new version is available? That requires - of course - that the wallet has a way to check for updates. But since Microsoft/Apple/Adobe/andalltheothers can do it, so can you :-)
3) (for those who don't even run their QT all the time) a notification feature where the user can enter his eMail address into the wallet and the wallet sends that eMail address plus its own version information to a central server of yours which then sends out an eMail when a new software version is available. And which sends a warning eMail when a mantatory update has to be performed.

Naturally, as of today, the Cryptocurrency-community has been very active but with the price explosion of the Bitcoin last month, more and more "normal users" will enter the market.
They will not keep their wallet running all the time.
They will not check the forum all the time.
But they might spend hard cash on buying this coin at an exchange and then send it over to their wallet. As a community, we even need that kind of passive user - and we need their money buying this coin.
And when they find ways to spend or donate the coin, they will. And for that purpose they will open their wallets - but not in between.

Having said this, I personally prefer feature (3) because it has a few advantage over the other 2:

  • It keeps even those "passive" users in the loop that do not run their wallet regularily.
  • That way, if a really important change has to be made (e.g. a new blockchain), even those users won't lose their money because they get a notification. Think of the bad publicity when "normal users" start losing their money because they simply ignored their wallets for months only to find them not working anymore because weeks before, a new blockchain or equally invasive measure was introduced without them knowing.
  • That feature can be extended for marketing purposes: add a checkmark "the makers of this coin are allowed to send me exciting news about this coin yaddayaddaya" - and voila you get yourself a free marketing database with tons of eMail addresses that you can use to keep engaging your users. Notify them of new shops where they can pay with this currency. Notify them of faucets. Notify them of exchanges that trade this coin. Notify them of the rise in value of that coin. And so on. Just keep engaging even the passive users - because to make a currency successful, you need every hand and every dollar you can get.

You guys and all the other professionals or those that have privacy concerns won't use that feature - and should never be required to do so. But the regular passive user will get that fuzzy feeling that he will be informed of important stuff without him spending much time checking bitcointalk or their wallets. And that will give him extra confidence when it comes to him spending the coin or buying the coin with his FIAT.

Just a few additional remarks:

  • Naturally, the best possible combination would be (3) with (1) where the users gets a "move your ass and update your wallet or else..." eMail (friendly version, of course) - and then he opens the wallet and clicks on the "update" button and that's it for him.
  • May be the required serverside portion (the thing that collects all version information and the eMail addresses and which also allows for sending out mass eMails to all users in that database) could be written in a generic way so that other virtual currencies can implement that feature, too?
  • May be, future wallets should have a default setting that causes them to run in the background as a service whenever the computer starts. That way, even many passive users will contribute to the P2P network without them even knowing. But that was just a sideline remark and describes a completely different feature request. But then again, while you are at it... :-)

Don't know. What do you guys think about that feature request?
Does anyone second that request?
Does anyone have a better idea how to solve the above mentioned challenges that this new species of regular, passive users will introduce in the weeks and months to come?

Thanks
Matt
QBT: CVVUsZaNLPgTWooSgm1N6GmLg7G6FzkS9E


P.S. Just a full disclosure: I have posted this same feature request to the thread of some other cryptocurrencies as well.

Checkpoints and a checkpoint server deliver this feature... when a checkpoint is added and the dev notates a mandatory client update... it can show a text message at the bottom of outdated clients.
811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AsicCoin (ASC) | SHA256 - The coin for ASIC Mining! | No Premine on: December 28, 2013, 05:05:45 AM
Still no word from the dev eh?

- 1/100 chance (about every hour) for one 8096-coin block (2^13 coins) 8192?
812  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 28, 2013, 03:11:26 AM
I have a wide range of hardware error rates.. I am wondering if they are related to cooling, luck or random chance...  So before I go tearing down my cards and reseating them how do these numbers sound?

1 card at 3.5% error rate, 7 cards around 8% error rate 2 cards at 10% (and change).

So should I be worried with 10% error rates or is this one of those random chance things?

Thanks in advance.

It is definitely a factor of chip cooling and airflow over the mosfets.

I started with an Accelero II mounted in line like you would on a GPU and the heatsink fins were over the mosfets... I averaged about 8% errors.

I rotated it 90 degrees and an 80mm fan right on top of the mosfets and gained a couple GH/s and down to 5% errors.

I have now moved on to an H60 Corsair water cooler and the 80mm on the mosfets but am now back at 8% errors (i believe due to the fail hardware included in the refurb box that wouldn't mount properly...) I am getting some long bolts and nuts to use a much better backplate tomorrow and expect the change to fix my issue and increase hashes.

UPDATE: Bolts, washers and nuts used to reseat and mount the water block... 33 GH/s and 4.4% HW errors.
813  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 22, 2013, 02:39:53 AM


LE GASP!!!!! I have referral hashrate!!!! Laby YOU DA MAN!!! Welcome to Ghash.io and may your stay be LONGGGG!!!!!!
You should donate something to him if he used your ref link Smiley

Tell ya what... since it is only 3% of the PURCHASED hashrate... not our LRM hashrate... I would be happy to kick back half of w/e it earns once the weekly rake surpasses the withdraw fee... don't think 46 mh/s is gonna do that any time soon though.
814  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 22, 2013, 01:08:32 AM
Preparing the spreadsheet for div payouts.

Dividend Stats 12/21/2013:

Mined: BTC89.00622637
Payout: BTC66.75466978
Bonds: 58,174
Per Bond: BTC0.00114750

I'm going to work on increasing these numbers over the next couple months. (Fight the difficulty!!!)

After this week I'll be posting MM stats with it.

MM coins will be going straight into hardware.
MM coins accrued from playing on GHash.io this week:

NMC: 1.50734725
IXC: 6.87357936
DVC: 235.34593616

LE GASP!!!!! I have referral hashrate!!!! Laby YOU DA MAN!!! Welcome to Ghash.io and may your stay be LONGGGG!!!!!!
815  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 16, 2013, 06:18:50 AM
Edit: for anyone that isn't up to date Apple has removed or banned any app that you can make BTC payments from.  This is so they can keep all the payments through the apple store and repress any innovation or competition.

Except for PayPal.

Because they aren't going to try to poke that bear.  Smiley



grnbrg.

Gyft seems to have it together too... available on the iPhail store according to the site.
816  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [QQQ] Do you have to wait for the whole block chain b4 send (1K doge bountie) on: December 16, 2013, 04:54:07 AM
http://www.livechains.net have a large libary of updated blockchains so you can speed up the initial sycn



He wins pay the man!
817  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 15, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
Can they be screwed together or must they be glued?
How many Chilis can an enclosure hold?

The design is all tabs and slots as such there aren't really any thing to screw into. (keep in mind the fan & chili board will be screwed on not glued down).. That would be weird :-P) I'm going to cut them to be pretty tight so you might be able to just pressure fit them.   I suppose with a few strategically placed L brackets you could change it to screw together, but that's not in the design.. trying to keep it as simple as possible to make.  And being acrylic, a bit of acrylic cement and it will practically (and in some cases actually) be a single piece of plastic.

As for how many.. because I want to provide airflow to the mosfet's and people have soo many different cooling chooses the Queso holds 1 chili (two chili's in a small bowl like that would just be too hot :-P ).   If there is enough interest, I could be convinced to design a mult-chili rig.  Granted I have 10 chili's myself to setup.. I wanted something that if a chili has an issues can be worked on (away from the "rig") without taking everything else offline.



What is the estimated cost... really like this concept.
818  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 15, 2013, 06:58:24 PM
Food for thought. Curious if maybe the mine shouldn't just use GHash.io instead of where ever we are now... luck is good... hashrate is more than 2.25 PH/s and NMC/DVC/IXC are all included and ZERO POOL FEE! Only a 0.005 withdrawal fee. And since they allow you to buy cloud hashes with NMC... no reason not to have all NMC earned to be put straight into cloud mining to boost the total earnings. Why not?

Thoughts?

Seems like an excellent idea, the luck in the pool its been quite good, and also can use the NMC as you said to boost it buying more Ghs from cex.io market. Whatever he does, he also needs to use a referral to daemonfox to give 3% referral bonus as thanks ! Cheesy

Mining BTC, NMC, ICX and DVC all togheter in one place with 0% pool fees its simply awesome.

https://cex.io/r/1/daemon/0/
819  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly on: December 15, 2013, 02:52:31 PM
Same backplate in stock

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CLDH80/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1S9W9A986D3KF
820  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: December 15, 2013, 02:37:44 PM
Endlessa: how many TH/s do you think we need to go solo?

I'll do the math tomorrow and figure it out, but I wrote a mining simulator back in march/april (to see how personal hash would perform under different scenarios) and it seemed optimal to be able to solve 2/3 blocks per cycle.  You have not take in account hash growth and acceleration (rate of block solves past current difficulty, when difficulty changes it's almost instantly lower than network hash would dictate realtime, so it skews the "theoretical" maths).  so as a safety margin, my tests said about 3 would help mitigate non-solve periods due to lucky/unlucky and competition (unexpected large deployments mid cycle).  so you don't end up chasing the proverbial difficulty tail, so to speak.


those were just my tests . . . feel free to verify


edit: a cycle being a difficulty change

Sounds cool... let me take a stab in the dark at something rough using your suggested 3 blocks.

I would suggest always plugging in a predicted difficulty based on current est next difficulty * 1.3 to accommodate the additional hashpower added through the cycle. This way there is some headroom by using the END OF CYCLE estimated hashrate.

I took the next estimated adjustment and multiplied it to get 10660000 GH/s as the possible end result of the next adjustment, which will be my target hashrate for the following calculations.

To gain a minimum of 3 blocks by the end of the next adjustment would be (desired blocks/blocks per adjustment) * hashrate = needed average solo hashrate or...

(3/2016)  * 10660000 = 15863.09523809524 GH/s to obtain an average of 75 BTCs by the end of the next cycle.

So... by Endlessa's evaluation and some rough calculations... Lab_Rat is ahead of the game sitting at 23 TH/s and is outpacing a possible recommended minimum to solo mine hashrate if you are seeking only 3 blocks.

Food for thought. Curious if maybe the mine shouldn't just use GHash.io instead of where ever we are now... luck is good... hashrate is more than 2.25 PH/s and NMC/DVC/IXC are all included and ZERO POOL FEE! Only a 0.005 withdrawal fee. And since they allow you to buy cloud hashes with NMC... no reason not to have all NMC earned to be put straight into cloud mining to boost the total earnings. Why not?

Thoughts?
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