The trust system seems to have become a reputation system, and it contains a lot of subjective opinions, and retaliatory negative comments, Ideally, it should be a report on successful trades, and include a value for the trade. However, maybe we also need a reputation rating as well. I can think of a number of forcefully critical posters that I would trust with a cash trade. You can also get negatives for reporting account and merit trades, and I believe that they should be banned, and not create the possibility of red paint on good forum members.
I'll go out on a limb here, and give TMAN as an example. He has got several red comments relating to his board posting, and I agree that some of his comments can be direct and less than diplomatic, but that seems to be what some posters need and deserve. When it comes to a cash trade, then I would trust him with a $1,000 trade without thinking about it. Maybe it is time to have a trading trust system, and a requirement to include a trade value in the report.
this is a great example. you have been here long enough to deal/talk/know with TMAN. so you do not give a fudge about the negative reviews because you do understand that this whole negative review attack is based on say " his behavior" or " harsh words" yet when it comes to money you know he is a trust worthy ! so TMAN is not really affected by all this for members who have been here a while ! people like me on the other hand , i joined this forum less than a month ago ! . TMAN wants to sell something ! , i click on his trust page and i be like WTF !! . i will run away that's for sure, coz i dunno who the hell is this guy and why would he get all those bad reviews. it's a human nature! people usually run away from sellers/buyers with negative reviews. thanks for passing by .. ----------------------- You're a Junior Member so somebody would have to be pretty naive to trust you or any other Junior or lower ranked member without using an escrow in the first place. The trust system is there as a guide and should be used by people to help gauge a user and probably worked well in this case as you certainly shouldn't be blindly trusted just because a Junior trumps a Newbie. Why not get the buyer to pay the fees or split the costs with them? I'm sure there are free escrow agents as well.
we are not here to discus "ME" , f**k me and my 10$ voucher :d. we talking about this whole trust system. even a hero or legendary member would want to avoid keeping negative reviews so that he doesn't get them back so he can keep is profit RED-LESS. here is the main point of discussion. escrow is great ! but nobody does it for free, and nobody should because it's a hard work. for small amount transaction escrow is not the best thing! ,some escrow guys require min of about 50-60$ for their service. i rather risk the 10$ !!, that's why the trust system should be modified to have some sort of better quality indicator than this " you hit me , i hit you back" bullshit. ------------------------------------- If you leaving a negative trust, expect a "trust war" started. This is inevitable and just human nature. But those trust doesn't mean a shit if you're not tagged by DT. Yours's still 0 until I click on it. Good idea is to report to DT instead, which is more productive as anyone could see "red trust" right on scammer's profile. I'm doing reporting and leaving positive one to members I like. Think I'm coward, I don't care  . this is EXACTLY what this post is all about. coin5haker i know deep inside you want to leave all kinda negative reviews to help others know, yet to chose to run away. and i honestly can not blame you for this, nobody can or should  Isn't whole bitcointalk is fucked up?
Blackmailers are on Default trust, Admins who don't listen to you and are busy in making money from ad's, moderators who don't give a fuck, members who are spamming everywhere.
This forum is filled with filth, power and greed.
I think this place is only good for sharing knowledge, reading about new projects, disusing a hardware / software problem. basically anything except for SELLING/BUYING. it's only a matter of time for scammers to be left alone here trying to scam one another lol |
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so now I ended up with a negative review on my profile and just now a Newbie who just joined the forum ( 1 post ) refused to sell me a 10$ worth of bitmain coupon and now i have to use escrow that costs way more than the coupon itself lol.
a newbie seller asked for an escrow on a $10 trade? which one of you will be trusted more? why would he need an escrow if you send him $10 first, unless you want him to give you the voucher first just ignore that untrusted feedback. it makes a dent but doesn't ruin your overall trust ratings move on, find someone else who will sell you a voucher without escrow (I assume you are willing to go first) I made almost 1000$ worth of transactions since i joined with high rank members, i went first and things were smooth.
too bad, none of them left positive feedbacks on your trust page you can do the same thing with your $10 voucher trade, you can go first by sending him the money if your concern is his newbie rank, then find higher rank member that you can trust who can sell you the same voucher definitely i wasn't going to go first , that was his first post ! . comon sense says he should go first or escrow !. i went first through out all the transactions i had so far because the sellers/buyers had a higher rank and only positive feedback. this guy said he would go first and then changed his mind after seeing the negative feedback, so he changed his mind and went like " it's either you go first or escrow" looking at the escrow system you can tell that it's not really worth it to go for escrow on a 10$ trade !! i rather just risk those 10$ instead! ------------------ that's another issue here, people are too lazy to give positive feed back. they get their money/product and leave. so i won't be begging for positive feed back ! .............. my concern here is not the 10$ voucher, it's nothing ! . i only talked about my story to give an example of the whole idea. now i will have to think twice before leaving a negative review on a scammer profile !. and ya who cares about my review? but i would only think that most people are/will doing the same. look at the comment below yours from "coin5haker" he is openly admitting that he is scared of leaving negative reviews for the same reason i talk about . |
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You can see that over the past month, bitcoin prices have been steadily recovering, as per my technical analysis, the bitcoin price is showing uptrend in the short term, and you can trade bitcoin at the moment. This. But if you look at the long term, bitcoin prices are still in the bearish cycle so you need to be very careful when trading, always have specific plans before the trade. hmm how is BTC bearish on the long term ? maybe you should zoom out the chart and you will see what i mean. BTC was trading at 1700$ 365 ( a year ago) it's now at 9300$. if you were to draw a trend for that it would differently be an uptrend with almost 90 degree angle so i am not buying this bearish bullshit "sorry" as for being careful , of course I am . everybody should. we should not get married to BTC. i make profit shorting and longing i do not hodl for no reason. You can see that over the past month, bitcoin prices have been steadily recovering, as per my technical analysis, the bitcoin price is showing uptrend in the short term, and you can trade bitcoin at the moment. This. But if you look at the long term, bitcoin prices are still in the bearish cycle so you need to be very careful when trading, always have specific plans before the trade. Strongly agree bitcoin price is recovering not like before it was not normal to get a price of bitcoin to 7,000 USD. Agree as well jsrenthourse one must be careful so ine must have a knowledge to trade, on HOW TO RRADE PROPPERLY because one wring move and idea bye bye yoh might lose but if something happen like bitcoin value drop agian hold it do not sell it. AGAIN DO NOT SELL IT HOLD it wait for it to rise again. I do not hodl, i trade, i do not care where BTC is going to be in 5 years, i want to make as much BTC as i can now. so tell me 1 good reason why wouldn't you short BTC when it bounces back of 11500$ area as the bears waiting there? . i am not married to btc. i am going to short it at the nearest chance possible, so i can re-buy it for cheaper to end up with more BTC in my wallet ! simple |
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when a Newbie who joined a few hours ago checked my untrusted feedback it only makes sense that a lot of people care about it.
but anyway good thing you pointed me to untrusted feedback part ! would you be so kind and explain WHO can give a trusted feedback and who can't.
thanks Trusted feedback is based on a user's trust list. This is usually set to DefaultTrust. I have an in-depth explanation from a previous post of mine (this is in regards to trust depth but is relevant): This belongs in Meta.
For the purposes of explanation, trusting someone simply means that you carry their feedback in the "trusted" section.
Depth is the degree of which you recursively trust those in your trust list and those that are in the trust lists of people that you trust.
For example:
Depth 0 means that you only trust people who you add to your trust list.
Depth 1 means that you trust people who are in your trust lists, and in the trust lists of people you added to your trust list.
Depth 2 means that now additionally, the people in the depth 1 lists are trusted by you.
Depth n means that you trust the people in the depth n-1 lists.
An illustrative example:
This symbol: -> means adding someone to the trust list.
You -> A
A -> B
A -> C
B -> D
B -> E
Depth 0:
A is trusted.
Depth 1:
A is trusted, B and C are trusted.
Depth 2:
A is trusted, B and C are trusted, D and E are trusted.
If you're familiar with CS terminology, think of it as a tree with nodes, where parents add children to their trust list.
You can find your trust settings in any trust page and configure your trust list as you like. This will allow you to include and exclude others in your depth 0 trust tree. Amazing , very nice explanation.thank you so much for the explanation. you are very nice and polite thanks again. |
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Jesus, relax dude. I don't know anything about this guy, never heard of him.
If you're upset that someone wants to use escrow, you might want to rethink that--he's right in wanting to, regardless of the amount. That's what everyone here recommends. Look at my trust page and see how many negs I've gotten that are without reference threads. Do I get upset? Absolutely not. The trust that this guy left you is that he thinks your account was hacked based on a password reset, and that's valid. I'm not saying his feedback is valid, but the concern is. Just suck it the fuck up and use escrow if you want to get a deal done instead of making threads like this.
I think i did clearly mention that my issue here is not using escrow. I traded well over 1000$ in a few days here " i can show you a proof". the point here is , the guy was willing to go first, till he saw the negative review which i got from a well known scam " your problem if you do not know him" plus the discussion here is about the trust system , not about me getting my deal done. my business is my business you should not worry about it, you worry about your own shit. Thanks also by the look at your sent feedback you do seem pretty mad at people giving you untrusted feedback just like me, you see it's a human nature so do not pretend like you are any better than anybody else ! . |
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It's untrusted feedback. Do you want moderators to pore over feedback sent, regardless of who sent it? That would be a huge waste of time and would certainly compromise the staff's time.
A minority of users will truly care about the untrusted feedback and it's unfortunate: you'll lose business that way. But most don't even check trust ratings, never mind the untrusted feedback.
It would be in the best interests of most people if you would continue reporting scams as they come. Some scammers may leave retaliatory feedback. Just don't worry about it. It'll change about 2% of sales.
If it truly did anything significant, then a lot of active DT members would be in trouble. Just take a look at my trust page for example.
when a Newbie who joined a few hours ago checked my untrusted feedback it only makes sense that a lot of people care about it. but anyway good thing you pointed me to untrusted feedback part ! would you be so kind and explain WHO can give a trusted feedback and who can't. thanks |
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so i realized that most people do not put reviews on OBVIOUS scams and i was wondering why !. so i got the answer !. so who doesn't know a scammer that goes by the name " etherPIC" ? i think everybody who visits the market place knows this guy. so i warned people about him on his own thread, and what he did was giving me a negative review so that people won't trust my words on him. so now I ended up with a negative review on my profile and just now a Newbie who just joined the forum ( 1 post ) refused to sell me a 10$ worth of bitmain coupon and now i have to use escrow that costs way more than the coupon itself lol. so ya that's what i get for trying to warn people about scammers on this forum!! I am not by any means against using escrow, but really for a 10$ payment i have to go through escrow , the time and the fees are not worth it. it's also not logical for me to trust a member who joined today. it makes more sense for him to trust me instead of me trusting him. but when he sees a negative review on me like that ,he has the right to freak out lol. I made almost 1000$ worth of transactions since i joined with high rank members, i went first and things were smooth. so what i am going to do from now on, i won't give a f*** about warning anybody about any scams so that my trust page doesn't get all kinda RED NEGATIVE REVIEWSI am also probably going to delete this thread which i was working on collect a list of all scams on the forum to protect the newbies from falling from them > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3486346.msg36123932#msg36123932so long live the scam artists |
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Nobody is interesting is very cheap coupons ?  If you buy all I can give even better price. your coupons are not cheap bro, that's why nobody is interested! i offered 125$ at 5$ and 100$ at 3$ and nobody bough them till they expired !. people do not really buy these small values because they can save much more buying larger values. simple math. if they buy 100$ coupon at 10$ they save 90$ if they buy 200$ coupon at 50$ they save 150$ your best bet would be to sell them for REALLLLLLLL cheap. |
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A public DNS server is open to a lot of risks, except it is properly protected using failsafe methods that disconnects the server from the stream in the event of an attack say DDoS. First of it is that public servers when compromised can bring a lot of pain to every client who has their sensitive documents, data, etc loaded via the server. All this is usually possible when the server is the target of a worm, host, or virus if the hackers feel something important lies deep in the purpose the servers convey. No one is invulnerable and as such, it is safer to use a private secured protocol that gives a higher degree of safety. never trust public servers no matter how safe they look and never carry out financial transactions over them as your details may be compromised without your knowledge.
i have been wanting to say this but my writing skills sucks, you just spoke for me . thanks |
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Well I will not say that is a bad strategy, and that is usually the ultimate goal of any trader: keep their losses low, and profits high. I do believe there could be a problem with this. We all know crypto is very volatile, so isn't it going to be quite easy for his stop loss to be hit, and for his profit taking to not hit?
Let's stay we are trying to get 10% profit and accept a 5% loss. The market goes in our favor, but only 6%. Then it dumps and we not only lose out 6%, but we also hit our stop loss, ending up losing 5%.
I guess this could be solved by using a trailing stop loss. Meaning we accept 5% loss at the point we are at. So if we were in 6% green and the market dumps. Since we only accept a loss of 5% based on our current point, we would end up breaking even because we would actually end up winning 1% on that trade.
Do you have a better solution for this?
see now again this really depends on your trading strategy. for me i do not use any type of indicators, i only use Support / Resistance. so i do apply exactly what you said except the fact that i do not move my SL randomly or based on %. i move it based on either Support/ or Resistance line not just to protect myself from my initial SL. giving your scenario, but with a different ENDING , say the market moves 6% in your favor and then moves against you and hit your NEW SL which we assume it's break even, and then moves in your initial favor 10% ! so you technically lost 10% in profit. since we are debating about un-predictable scenario so anybody can support their point view with real numbers. but let me share something i learned the hard way !. am sure every trader suffered/ suffering from this. how many times you got out of a trade and then it goes up crazily ! and you be like ,, shit i sold and it went up ! if only i waited 5 more mins. that's why the best strategy for beginners and mid skilled is " SET AND FORGET" . this way you avoid getting screwed by emotions, once you get in a trade it should be based on technical reason. so your SL and TP should make sense at the moment of entry , thus no matter how things go you should not touch your SL/TP. once your eyes become more conftable with charts, you will handle trailing stop better, you would also apply hedging and balancing once needed. but these require fast and solid decision away from emotions, and i do not think it's easy to get rid of emotions!. i have been doing this for years on forex and now on both crypto and forex and almost every time i temper with my intial decision i fu** up. |
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if you have them still please contact me
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i was carelessly using public dns because my isp using it. later dns hijacked occured.
My wallet got hacked by it. i lost about 700 usd of it.
now i am no longer using myetherwallet, time to use metamask or other more secure wallet.
sorry about your loss, i tried to warn as many people as i could by then on Ether Mining group on FB some people got away but most were to late to act! anyway why not get a hardware wallet? any logical explanation behind this? thanks |
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I think it is pretty clear that what i meant by saying that your ISP DNS is more secured than GOOGLE's is nothing technically related. it's something we can't tell, statistically google's DNS is more secured than many other's COMBINED.
but the fact that it's widely used, it's on hackers top list!.simply due to the reward!
Can you clue me into which statistics you are using to formulate this conclusion? If you're saying that this is something we cannot tell in terms of their technical sophistication, then what about the statistics should reflect any differently? Either they are more secure, or they are less secure. Even if they are more technically sophisticated, is it more likely that the Google DNS gets hacked or your ISP DNS? I would argue that it's Google's that is more likely, so in certain circumstances, such as this one security by obscurity may be of higher value than other aspects for the simple fact that you will not fall into the targeted-zone of attack. As you said, there is high reward for this sort of thing, but in regular ISPs DNS there is little to gain, so unless you are causing yourself to be targeted you can bet that you won't be. You say that it is pretty clear what you mean, but there are multiple people that are unclear on exactly that so you are misleading yourself if you honestly believe that to be the case. I do not know what is the point of wrongly rephrasing my initial statement. I can tell you that Google's DNS is differently more secured than your ISP, but it is SAFER to your ISP' DNS because it's less Likely to be targeted. More Secured doesn't mean SAFER !. it's simple you do not have to complicate it ! what is more secure a bank downtown or a house in the middle of nowhere at the side of the country? sure is the bank has more security, but in terms of "security by obscurity". that house is safer to store money in, but it takes 1 thief with a knife to rob that house , while it takes a big force to get into the bank downtown!. so technically GOOGLE's dns is much more secured " do your own research" . but your ISP dns is safe simply because it's less important to the majority of hackers. and if you want to argue about the fact that security by obscurity is a bad practice then a simple proof is the last MEW attack. people who were accessing their MEW using their ISP were safe at the same moment that those on Google's were getting compromised. there is no HISTORY data on this matter particularity, therefore I have no solid evidence to support this statement. because it is common sense. if you want to build a reliable data on this keep using Google's DNS and after a few years you tell me how many times your online wallet was compromised and we compare it to someone else's who is on their own ISP DNS |
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This is the first time that I've read about risk/reward ratio or 3R's. I absorbed every detail that you want to convey and I think, newbies are always fall in the worst trader specially those who have not any idea about trading. I am a trader also but I do not make it as my hobby since I have only a small amount of capital. This is helpful guide to me, thanks buddy!
I am glad i could provide some knowledge. hope you will make good profit. |
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when you say for ONLY it means a hot price. 8$ is not a great price. they are selling for 5$ and nobody really wants them, unless you go 4$ or something i do not think anybody will buy them. |
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are you willing to send first ? or use escrow ? !
if yes i'l buy if no i'l nah.
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Shhhhhh, don't bring it up. Ad revenue of the forum would drop dead if this place wouldn't welcome spammers/scammers and become clean. There is no intention to get rid of those people, we all know that....
makes a lot of sense |
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