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8001  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: June 16, 2018, 12:50:05 PM
79.5th, 1.400w, it was non public sale, but if they put in the hashnest i would buy 1  for sure even if it is 30% more expensive...
I'd buy one too. I'm guessing it'd be about $3k-4k like when the s7 was released? How much did it sell for?

Who was it sold to, did they get it custom made from them and buy in bulk?

0.0283J/GH is quite impressive.
8002  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 15, 2018, 11:38:00 PM
I lost everything with this site and they don't answer to contact forms, pay attention guys

How was it lost, did you use 2FA or a strong password? Giving such little information isn't very helpful for others to take note.

Sorry it was very general, I edited the post. I lost everything with the dice game.

and you contacted the site owner/admin to do/ask exactly what?
do you want a refund for your losses? Shocked
because you feel you have been cheated out of your money and you have strong proof? Tongue

I think it's more of a heads up based on his post history.
ALL gambling sites are made to make you lose money, that's how they get money themselves Don't put more than 10BTC into any service to start with as that is unsafe.
8003  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 15, 2018, 11:04:19 PM
I lost everything with this site and they don't answer to contact forms, pay attention guys

How was it lost, did you use 2FA or a strong password? Giving such little information isn't very helpful for others to take note.
8004  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: June 15, 2018, 09:16:49 PM
price now are very reasonable, i mean for 800euros you can get 1 S9, and it mine you 2 usd per day, but is the income coming or not,...?i doub they will make S9 absolute, if BTC recoveres, the S9 might recover along it, and when the S11 if will be availble also the S7 was on their market for quite some time still, but if they dont put the S11 , which i think they might not do, then their cloud mining is coming to a difficult period. also the L3 can still go down, and the S9, this so crazy...

Is there any information on the S11/S10 model yet? The poewr efficiency, will it use new chips to improve efficiency or just have a different board that makes it more efficient.
8005  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: June 15, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
Since hashnest is clearly the best deal when it comes cloud mining, I would recommend to anybody that cloud mining is a bad idea. I believe the people that went into the Pacmic contracts managed to make some gains, although they were kind of small. I also believe that people that initially bought the S9 and L3 when they were new and then sold early also profited. However, at this stage of the game, it appears this is a losing proposition. I also feel strongly that Bitmain will be phasing Hashnest out. I don't see any new opportunities with Hashnest.

I managed to put in ~0.8BTC and pull out 1BTC+ when the S7 had the maintenance fell from ~80% to ~40%. I tried to do the same again but didn't trade off my miners fast enough and then waited until today to try to redeem them Sad - bit of bad luck.

I'm hoping the S9s do similar, I did manage to recover 0.08BTC from the market from my original 0.2BTC capital (I honestly have no idea how I did that though).
8006  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 8xS7 bitcoin miners on: June 15, 2018, 08:28:23 PM
are there psu's with the miners? Located in Macedonia & interested.

They're goine anyway. Thought it was tonight it changed so I actually didn't manage to redeem them for myself (oops Sad ).

And no, there aren't any PSUs with them.

8007  Other / Meta / Re: Let's Ban Gambling Signatures/ Advertising on: June 15, 2018, 08:22:10 PM
Firstly, if fortuneJack still have their stupid campaign rule of 75% of posts being in the gambling section, then I'd be against that as ever since I first looked at it I thought it would encourage a lot of spam in that section.
Really? It's not that surprising that they would want people to be active in the gambling section, because they are targeting a specific audience. I don't personally have a problem if some gambling company wants most of their advertisements in the gambling section, however it would be best that they select participates on their history, and only enroll those who are active in the gambling section beforehand to prevent unnecessary posts. 

I'm not sure if they do this, but if they select those who are already active in the gambling section then let them be. After all they can specify what they want, and it's probably better to see gambling related signatures in the gambling section rather than Meta.

Yes I wasn't entirely sure on that but I used to look at a thread like freebitco.in and it used to just have loads of FJ sig posters on it and not much else inbetween (the odd newbie with an issue maybe). Sure, if they screen their users beforehand then find but if we're going to section off parts of the forum for certain posters who are fearful of losing their signature spaces by switching things up and posting in a different board then IMO that is where the spammy parts might start to come in. I mean, until recently FJ were the highest paying signature so it made sense they had rules like that...


Also if we say that gambling should go, lending and trading could be considered similar in nature to gambling (especially pump-dump coins like doge) are we going to see them be cut next?
So what does that leave: Serious Discussion, Ivory Tower, Local Boards, Bitcoin Technical Support, Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners & Help and Meta.

Get rid of ICOs also, they're more likely to scam and they don't really do much either anyway other than allowing for their bad developers to rake in a bit of extra money...
8008  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: June 15, 2018, 05:26:30 PM
I lost all my btc?? Cost btc - 11 BTC  Hashrate GHs - 245677 , i purchased when was 0.00006 and now is 0.00001 , what can i do? Need to wait or is gone all my btc Sad

How much is mining earning prr day?
And it'll go back up when Bitcoins price dies. You realise that when you invest money in something your return is not 100% guaranteed, there's a slim chance you could lose everything but it's very unlikely.
8009  Other / Meta / Re: Let's Ban Gambling Signatures/ Advertising on: June 15, 2018, 03:22:00 PM
Firstly, if fortuneJack still have their stupid campaign rule of 75% of posts being in the gambling section, then I'd be against that as ever since I first looked at it I thought it would encourage a lot of spam in that section.

Gambing is something we shouldn't try to controle, most sites are provably fair and people should know that the house always wins it's up to the conscience of the gambler to stop when they want and if they lose control, to try to find help for it.

I'm sure most of you know the cyber sex and such that goes on in the dark web.

I can think of a lot of stuff you're probably alluding to however I'm not sure what part(s) you're suggesting there?
8010  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 14, 2018, 06:07:52 PM
Still no specific news about the service update / upgrade?
It was quite a while since the last announcements, is it still a thing or was it abandoned for some reason?


According to what I've noticed @TheQuin say, I think wetsuit is going through loads of updates and updating the site all in one go. Not too sure though.

8011  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 14, 2018, 05:30:45 PM
I thought I already covered this one for you. If someone's found to have a website that is intentionally malicious, taking away the malicious part doesn't guarantee you will be whitelisted, it'll take a while...

OK, I didn't pick that bit up. I would still argue that a mining program that prompts the user to ask their permission to run isn't malicious.

It was probably more that it was quite an intensive program that was being run. I'm not sure but could anyone else confirm if programs like Bitcoin core and nicehash also get blocked in a similar way?
8012  Economy / Lending / Re: $50 loan on: June 14, 2018, 05:25:25 PM
Well getting a loan with someone else should meet the requirements before getting the loans. As what they have said that you need to send first the collateral for you to be able to receive your loan. It is easy if you will just comply on it since you are the one needing the money then you must do what is required. But if you are just doing scam then you cannot achieve it here.
"Easy if you comply" seems a bit weird. It's more that he should comply or just go as it'll be impossible to lend otherwise.
8013  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 14, 2018, 12:02:59 PM
Good luck with their support, I just add freebitco on web exclusion list and then it work normally. Mainly I use it on my smartphone, but since I have your banner on my site I notice it stop loading, and few users report me it is broken. MB Premium is great protection and I use it for years, but they block all related to browser mining which is in a way good thing since many site owners use it without a user's permission.

I understand why they block mining but we've taken the page down so I don't see any reason for them not to remove the block.

I thought I already covered this one for you. If someone's found to have a website that is intentionally malicious, taking away the malicious part doesn't guarantee my honesty will last. You will be blacklisted for a while before you get reviewed as no longer being malicious.
8014  Economy / Lending / Re: $50 loan on: June 14, 2018, 11:58:19 AM
I can fund this, with the understanding that if the collateral drops below the value of Bitcoin initially lent, I will sell it.

Send the amount to my address then

Oh yeah sure. Because that's what I do, just send people money when they offer collateral and don't send any.
Sign a mesdahe with the bytecoin and I'll send you an address to send it.
8015  Other / Meta / Re: Ponzi Schemes are illegal right? on: June 14, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
It depends on country to country depending upon the laws (?). There are loopholes or hidden agendas in these ponzi schemes sometimes which may cover things up, but yeah in most cases it is illegal. Read this for more information : https://www.quora.com/Why-is-a-ponzi-scheme-illegal
Excuse me, but in which country is investment fraud legal?

Actually I don't think ponzis are inherantly illegal. If you tell people in your terms and conditions and they agree to them, then it's up to them whether to follow it or not.
False advertising is the illegal part not the idea behind it.
Nonsense.
http://qr.ae/TUpsAM
http://qr.ae/TUpsAU

From the link posted above here are two examples.

In the most upvoted reply: social security does the same thing. There are other things that function in the same way, if you think of the financial crisis of 2009 was due to banks becoming more like ponzi schemes and not having enough actual money in their posession and being in too much debt with the government banks. If you think also about insurance companies, sure they have methods of reducing the amount they have to pay if they really need to and to sort out other stuff, but if thousands of people needed to claim against a few million dollars of losses each, that insurance company would collapse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

It is scam, it is illegal and it is investment fraud. I am not sure which part of that you don't understand.

I'd define a Ponzi scheme as different to what is suggested there. But in their case, there isn't a legitimate version of it.
Quote
By definition[1], a Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒnzi/; also a Ponzi game)[2] is a fraudulent investment that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. It is an investment system where the investment profits are paid with the money from other investors, and those who experience profit believe the profits come from non-investors such as business activities, or the earnings and growth of a company.


As they claim it's not outrightly stated there so that is an illegal Ponzi.

8016  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 8xS7 bitcoin miners on: June 14, 2018, 11:51:32 AM
Bump.

Will sell for 0.12 if anyone's interested?
8017  Other / Meta / Re: Ponzi Schemes are illegal right? on: June 13, 2018, 10:30:07 PM
Actually I don't think ponzis are inherantly illegal. If you tell people in your terms and conditions and they agree to them, then it's up to them whether to follow it or not.
False advertising is the illegal part not the idea behind it.
Nonsense.
http://qr.ae/TUpsAM
http://qr.ae/TUpsAU

From the link posted above here are two examples.

In the most upvoted reply: social security does the same thing. There are other things that function in the same way, if you think of the financial crisis of 2009 was due to banks becoming more like ponzi schemes and not having enough actual money in their posession and being in too much debt with the government banks. If you think also about insurance companies, sure they have methods of reducing the amount they have to pay if they really need to and to sort out other stuff, but if thousands of people needed to claim against a few million dollars of losses each, that insurance company would collapse.
8018  Other / Meta / Re: Ponzi Schemes are illegal right? on: June 13, 2018, 09:25:30 PM
In most countries Ponzi schemes are illegal and looking at the rules discussion of illegal activities or selling of illegal things are not allowed.
Actually I don't think ponzis are inherantly illegal. If you tell people in your terms and conditions and they agree to them, then it's up to them whether to follow it or not.
False advertising is the illegal part not the idea behind it.

I want to know why this is if they are illegal in the majority of the countries. Doesn't this forum have to follow the laws that its hosted in?

The forum is supposed to be quite impartial it would take a lot of effort to ge through and delete everything that was a ponzi or everything that looks like a ponzi.
8019  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: June 13, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
after 1 month of waiting i bought 350mhs of L3, 24 H and no blocked mined, do you get payout for L3...?

My last earning was: 2018-06-12 17:35:58

So I guess there's nothing for today, they should sort it though I presume.
8020  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ABC stucked on 530361 block on: June 13, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Maybe an antivirus or firewall is blocking it. Do you have any of these? If so manually configure it to allow connections to be recieved by whitelisting the application.
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