I should say I had been lucky as I had always been an early bird in case of investing bitcoins. I know that people don't believe in ponzis, but I do. I always look for new sites that come up as they will always pay in the start, so I always invest early and reap the profits.
I have tried several times to using that way but one day i find a new site to appear and did not pay my investments so the income loss instantly. That is pretty sad if you are asking me, you always have to be sure in what you are investing in. Be sure that its not something you cannot fully trust. thats true, i think you have to do a lot of investigation before investing into something in order not to lose why did you think investing in ponzi only on the beginning would always working? just tried investing more than 0.01 Bitcoin and see what's happening,you will not get your money back + profit,those ponzi only paid back small investment such as 0.001 - 0.005 which more likely will give you profit equal to dust
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Both gold and bitcoin are good, but i rather pick gold for now. Because many people already know about gold than bitcoins. Bitcoin is good too, if many people use bitcoin, i will change into bitcoin.
I think for long term gold is better than bitcoin, every country accept gold but not all country accepting bitcoin, that is why gold is better for long term, but bitcoin can act as currency and investment so if you are an active investor you should choose bitcoin You have a point there, in terms of assurance that you will earn gold can give you that but for people with only low investment they prefer to invest with a higher asset which is bitcoin because it can give the fast growth of their money in the future, risky but rewarding, that's how I describe bitcoin. but gold is too boring because of its stability, in my opinion bitcoins are way better and it can give you more profit most of those who invest on gold have other thing they have to do and not just waiting their gold price increasing,they're saving into gold for taking an advantages of its stability price,they just want safe method to save but also growing,most of them ain't traders by the way
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Earning money with bitcoin is just earning bitcoin since bitcoin is money. Anyways you can try trading if you like big profit and a challenge or you can check services too to see if you can do something for people
Trading is obviously one of the best methods of earning bitcoins but for that someone would probably need a good enough capital and some knowledge as well, though knowledge can be gained by reading but the capital is not something that you can get from anywhere, so trading is not for those who are new to bitcoin and just starting with it or maybe it can be for them if they can buy bitcoins. it is the best method to be honest, i think it can earn you really easy money over time if you do it often You have to be a good trader to earn money from the trading only as the trading is negative sum game. yeah you are right that trading is the best way to earn good profit if you are good trader , and there is maximum people are earning a big profit from trading because trading have too much lowest risk and i also prefer that trading is much more good than other investment . who said trading have much lowest risk? sometimes trading could make you broke just in few hours when price suddenly falling about 200% and you just don't have time to make a cut lose so the whole coin become worthless than before
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I do not accept them but I think that I will do this if the bitcoin gets bigger and also more popular, I really think than its worth doing it. Right now I still think its not honestly..
actually that's not wrong thing,bitcoin is not helping that much for business that selling things in offline,but when it comes to selling stuff online or selling digital thing such as account,domain,giftcard,or anything else bitcoin will be giving additional profit to the bussiness
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Trading is not that unpredictable if you are good at it. You need to analyze and study the market and find and predict the next moves. If you are one step ahead on the prices then you'll have a big advantage look for returning patterns aswell very important.
if people keep saying trading is unpredictable they are not experienced enough. trading is actually predictable , it is just not 100% accurate. some people even call trading as gambling which i really disagree with it. you're actually right,the price of altcoin could be predicted by analyzing the latest news,events or anything else,just see if some altcoin just suddenly got hacked and your prediction is the price will be going down and having the same thought as other,so, you and other traders will make selling trends that could dumping the price.
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You may look a little sus if you buy tons of bitcoin at once, especially if it's in one big transaction on the blockchain. You might get the police knocking on your door. Buy in small amounts.
Hmm police can't really knock on your door for that though but if I'd buy a large amount i would atleast have your reasons ready and a explanation how you got that money cause that's usually what they start to ask you how you got that amount of money etc etc. sometimes if you're going to make a transaction through your banks especially a large amount you will need the government permit but if you don't and still doing that maybe you will be interogated by the police as soon as they will come to your house,government always monitoring every citizens bank transaction
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The money collected so far are increasing rapidly, with the remaining time less than 12 hours, we will see the end result of fundraisers will reach how much money, and this thread very fast growing too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) this thread is indeed growing fast because people are really excited about the ICO and maybe this coin will be the most succesfull of the year(?) but no one knows,although when a project from beginnning having positive feedback it will have a big chance to be success
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For sure it's possible to manipulate the price but not for regular people like use only for very rich people cause they can buy super many causing prices to go up or sell and dump them all causing a crash again.
so how much the exact money to manipulate the price? i don't think,only "rich" is not enough but very rich could probably enough,bitcoin's volume in 24H taken from coinmarketcap is $44,481,200,i'm just curious how in this world people would spend millions dollar for only manipulating bitcoin while the chance is uncertain
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Off course that wont happejn do you really think that the bitcoin can replace the money how would you think that would happen if everybody has money instyead of bitcoins.
it can actually happen and it will most probably happen in the near future, we just need to wait for a while Why we need to wait? Do you think all people like the idea? And no it can't happen in the future. No way that bitcoin can support all people in the world. Don't expect that all the people has the capacity to understand bitcoin and even if they understand but not on their interest to use it, you cannot force them to use, they are already satisfied with paper money so they will stick to it. for now it's right, so many people just want to use what they're knowing and not going to move to another currency until government force them and as human it's just an usual thing,although there's still bunch of people in this world that didn't even know about internet
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Bitcoin is better in every way then paypal is. Paypal is a scam and take alot of money from you and randomly chargeback / freeze account. I love bitcoin it's anonymous and fast and I don't have to fight with a 3rd party everytime I want to reach MY money!!
actually the one that requesting chargeback is not paypal but the person that's was done dealing with the seller which being chargedback but paypal also giving an approvement to this but unfortunately if paypal just see some transaction that seems just suspicious without doing an investigation they're just approving the chargeback blindly
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Very simple to to increase start with signature campaign and fee lancing work. This will help you get some coin and you you may then have some decend amount ti trade with and if want to take a risk then gamble and get more or lose full ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I will never prefer to gamble my coins. my signature campaign paying me 0.034BTC a week. and I don't think it is low amount to trade. I can do trade easily with 0.035BTC.. and if it is not enough then I can wait for some more weeks to increase my capital but gambling will never increase your capital.. never touch gambling with your hard earned money. actually gambling can increase your money just incase if you can manage to win which obviously such a joke answer (just read it being spoken by people here) but if it's iam,i would prefer saving up my earning rather than gambling while the chance to lose is really big
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Nice to see people trusting in this project. A good team deserve good investors!
Gratz
i'd agree,as you can see that the funds were gather from investor is such a big amount and by looking into this it means so many people trusting iconomi because they're having the intention to invest here,more trust more good
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Off course that wont happejn do you really think that the bitcoin can replace the money how would you think that would happen if everybody has money instyead of bitcoins.
in some aspects yes but in many cases it cant government wont allowed it as they want control over currency so it will be hard to do. definitely right,the government will control everything in their region to stabilize the economy and not going just throw their control to this such currency except they can atleast control it,but bitcoin can't be controlled due to decentralized system and also the owner of the address can't be identified easily
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Good decision to not sell any coin the coin goes up every month and sometimes we have downs too but I believe it will keep going up and we haven't reached our stable point of maximum value yet I hope that we can stabilize around 1k which is a nice price and not too unrealistic if you ask me.
i'd agree if 1k is not too unrealistic because bitcoin's price before have ever reached about $1200 but unfortunately going down again but if the price were 1k it's maybe not that stable,i think while bitcoin's price always rising up the stability is really hard to be hold
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you are right, first of all you need to make a decent plan that would allow you to make some decent money
you're talking like "you need to make money to get money" that's not goinf to resolve any problem although decent plan doesnt mean it can earn you decent money,sometimes even decent plan will give you small money
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The best way to save money is to make a budget and hold yourself to that. Check what you need to pay and how much you earn and pay all your bills before doing anything else. After that you see how much money there's left for saving and enjoyment.
if someone can just doing it easily without any struggle then it's would be easy to manage money but the thing is sometime people just can't hold on to buy what they need but also buying what they want that's now becoming the main problem here,it's the most hard to manage it
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Gold is something unknown for me cause i don't know anyting about earning money with gold, better to start working with bitcoins, cause i already know someting.
Basicly gold is alot more stable and secure investment. Prices don't change that much it goes up a little. So gold is the slow and safe investment whilst bitcoin is the risky one that can make you alot of money. I'd choose for bitcoin just because I like to have potential instead of security. Yeah and we cannot afford to wait longer to earn small profits, better choice is to take risks and keep on making profits regularly and that is surely possible with bitcoins. that's definitely not the right answer if you just want to make your money growing and NOT losing it,probably because it'll be getting used for the future purpose and you just can't afford to lose it,in this condition taking risks is definitely not a wise choice at all
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The fact here is you bitcoin can't disappear the paper money we are using this since bitcoin is not a part of community we all using paper since we born on earth and we still using it to buy bitcoin it has a bitcoin potenial to grow more our community and economics soon paper money is very important
papermoney is going to go down for sure, i think that the price of the bitcoin is going to grow and dollar will be replaced Paper money is on the existence since the early years and still getting more power today. You think that kind of strong foundation can be just erase in the world easily just because of bitcoin? Bitcoin transaction can only be done online. Bitcoin is useless when the world is offline. well that's right since bitcoin doesn't even have any phyiscal form (regardless to any physical coin that have privkey inside it) bitcoin is indeed can't compete with paper money when it comes to real world,bitcoin still have so many disadvantages in offline mode honestly
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Quote from https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index"ICONOMI appoints a committee that determines the composition of the index at each rebalancing. The committee members propose the addition of new members to the index as well as their weightings and the potential removal of certain members. The final decision is taken with a vote. Additions and deletions of new or old members to the index will be explained to the public as they occur." Does it mean that it's not-automatic, 2 stages inclussion process? I mean, first an asset needs to qualify with 'Eligibility criteria for inclusion", and then the committee members work on the assets that qualified? Does it mean that qualified assets can be rejected by the committee? maybe but as they said the final decisions is taken with a vote and probably the committee only can make the following assets becoming potentially removed
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I would agree with you on that, for long term investor we need to have more patience to succeed, along the way there are challenges that we can witness like a big crisis, but as long as we have a big trust in bitcoin we will never do panic selling.
if there's a big crisis that could affect fiat,then bitcoin's price should be growing because people storing their wealth in form of bitcoin to avoid these crisis,but i don't really sure that crisis could affect bitcoin or not.since i think bitcoin has never experienced it yet
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