i have 2 zotac 3090 trinity oc. use thermalright odyssey 3mm thermal pad for back vram. and add 2 delta fans PL 90, mclock 1250  Nothing wrong with modding if it works and you are good at them. Problem is you do them wrong and it voids warranty. but if you do it right most likely the best results are the 122 mh x 2 = 244 mh I don’t do the full mods until warranty expires. I have a good relationship with cards builders and my rmas are honored. Nothing wrong with full mods on cards. But you need to be good at them. most all these cards have bad pads and just use backplate as a heat sink. I have seen multiple mods on many youtube videos and went the way of minerdude cases and no mods run at 275-285 watts with clocks at 800 to 1000 for ram. I have a dozen of different 3090s and they run at 107 to 117. if they all were modded to 122 I gain about 100 mh and worry about warranty. |
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Decided to quit pool mining and go all in solo!!
Wish me luck
"hashrate1m": "211T",
"hashrate5m": "210T",
"hashrate1hr": "213T",
"hashrate1d": "55.4T",
"hashrate7d": "117T",
"lastshare": 1642267783,
"workers": 9,
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You will get 'luck'. So I will not wish you 'luck' I will wish you great 'luck' Hit a block in under a month would be really good luck. |
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If hundreds of MW are brought in for under 3 cents in the U.S it is only a matter of time before existing gears start to move there so even those who are forced to shut down else where will have to migrate or sell thier gears to the folks in the U.S.
I'd guess these large operations that are able to get those sub 3 cent rates are not interested in buying older used equipment that would require 2x or 3x the infrastructure for the same hashrate even if the miner ROI is 6 months shorter. They are spending millions to build out datacenters. I think most would rather go in with new 3kw miners that have better efficiency, and make up the additional miner cost with the extended profitability time and lower infrastructure costs. The cost for the infrastructure and labor in the USA is high, in places where that cost is much lower I think there would be more operations that may buy up the older equipment. you would be surprised. in 2018 we were consulting on a large build were avalon a821s would be used as an excess power sink for five pennsylvania coal power plants used to feed philiadelphia they were slightly out of date. plan was nixxed due to btc collapse of 2018 . I would think any of these excess power companies if they consult with any decent consultant would be told to get gear now even if it its old along with get gear later. Any texas company going all in on new gear ⚙️ will get fucked = my prediction. any texas comapny understanding the need for old gear now in 30 days or less and new gear later will do okay. but even though I can type this it does not mean they will do as I say. Along with the stupidity of not having some solar and some wind in their plans. No concept of pretty curtains to hide the mess behind it. When I see the solar industry and the coal ,gas , oil industry at odds all I can think is fucking dumb. |
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no way for me to use windows again i am using nhos , but i will install windows and replicate the nicehash os low settings with afterburner to watch the vram temp if it is acceptable will switch to nhos with peace , but how can i know the low settings in nhos details so i can replicate
I never used Nicehash OS, but you can try Hive OS, it's simple to use and install Hive OS shows memory temperature on Nvidia cards But I agree with philipma1957, try windows to at least know your card better for a few hours or a couple of days, with GPUz you can extract a lot of information about power consumption, vram temperature, memory usage (here you can see if it's throttling or not) etc You can use msi afterburner to make the overclock, and after that you can use another OS knowing which settings to use thats what i though too , and i did install windows running NHQM and after some OCTune tweaks i got 100MH with 45c and 88c core and vram with 80% fan fixed speed Tdp 75% , i am still doing some memory tweaks to get 110MH without passing the 95c vram flag also remember my 3090s are in minderdude cases which have five 140mm fans moving air bigly. https://minerdude.com/product/x12012022/i have 9 of these cases the fans help cool the backplates and the ram. |
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I like the way it looks and that it's equipped with a touchscreen. It's different from any other hardware wallet I have seen.
I don't like seeing Bluetooth, wireless connections, and batteries. *Makes me think of the Nano X.
Bragging about having tamper-proof seals is also not something worth highlighting really in today's time and age.
I have trezor and they are good when given the chance to try this I decided to go for it. i am interested in safety of it along with ease of use. |
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no way for me to use windows again i am using nhos , but i will install windows and replicate the nicehash os low settings with afterburner to watch the vram temp if it is acceptable will switch to nhos with peace , but how can i know the low settings in nhos details so i can replicate
I never used Nicehash OS, but you can try Hive OS, it's simple to use and install Hive OS shows memory temperature on Nvidia cards But I agree with philipma1957, try windows to at least know your card better for a few hours or a couple of days, with GPUz you can extract a lot of information about power consumption, vram temperature, memory usage (here you can see if it's throttling or not) etc You can use msi afterburner to make the overclock, and after that you can use another OS knowing which settings to use Yeah especially with $2500 usd cards The 3090 do 105 to 120 all depends on how cool the ram is. finding the memory junction temp is good to do. Since I don't do a lot of mods on these cards I simply lower ram a bit and watts a bit. Good fan action. I keep getting decent temps and decent hash with ram backed off a bit and external fans. on Simple mining os most cards can do 1000 to 1100 on ram clocks and most card run too hot with that setting. so more fans or drop ram to 950 or 900 or 850 or even 800 Most of my 3090 have ram at 950 smos settings. one or 2 have 1000 ram setting one or 2 have 800 ram setting. most of my 3090 units including the Zotac do 106 to 117mh/s |
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They could drive a dump truck full of money up to my house and I would not move to AR. 100 BTC and I will go to the car and start driving right now. 146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3 is waiting for that 100 BTC |
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Okay moved it to wallets.
I will post back when they send it
Note :
Newegg is sending it.
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Well we are mostly remoras and not great white sharks.
most of us are 100kwatt to 3 or 4 megawatt
They don't like us, but squeezing us out is not that easy.
We have our 3 solar setups and they are cheaper than anything they have.
Since we paid two off and third will be paid off soon.
They all have 15 to 25 years of life in them. So people with the right power deals will hang in there.
But the guy with a 6 cent deal or an 8 cent deal will struggle.
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I create this topic because I challenged franky1 to join a civil discussion with all arguments in one place: @franky1: If I create a self-moderated topic (Lauda called me Switzerland for being neutral; I won't delete any of your posts, but I will call you out if you go off-topic), are you willing to engage? I expect it will be "you vs a couple of other users", but from what I've seen, you can handle yourself. I would like to discuss your points on LN that I've seen in far too many different topics, and it would be nice if we can reach consensus on at least part of the discussion. My invitation was accepted by franky1: i can engage.
and out of respect i will even take my own advice and step back from the computer between posts and take some breathing time between posts, and avoid (as i see other do)just hitting reply to rage reply.
if others can do the same. and answer without shining their bias/advertising PR stance of utopia, and respond rationally and thinking outside their small box. then great
it could actually lead to some proper dialogue. Anyone else than franky1: I will delete unfriendly posts, and I will delete off-topic posts. See my unedited archive when that happens. Rules Guidelines:Please keep this topic civil. Please keep the discussion only here, and not in other topics. If there's something worth reading in another topic, quote it here instead of posting a link. Try to limit the scope: don't throw 30 different arguments in one post, it will lead to endless replies. Update: separate posts in a row aren't allowed, so making different posts for each argument won't work. BlackHatCoiner expressed intentions much better: I want to add this as a condition: We'll speak of one topic at a time. Scalability? Scalability. Lightning's protocol? Lightning's protocol. Consensus? Consensus. This way we can clarify which are our interlocutor's disagreements and constructively (& friendly) correct them. Read everything before responding. Try to avoid duplicate replies. Newbies: read more, post less, and create an informed opinion. To consider: I removed franky1 from my ignore list. I think that's only fair considering the topic I started.
To start: I use on-chain Bitcoin, and I use Bitcoin LN. Bitcoin can work with or without LN, LN can't work without Bitcoin. I don't like high fees, as it limits adoption. I would like to see Bitcoin grow in value, userbase and number of transactions per second, and I think we need all three of those for Bitcoin to grow. How, that's up for debate. LN is a different network for a reason. it has its own usecase and niche and utility that differs from bitcoins. Nice work . I am glad you did this. At franky1 if btc writes code to alter from 0.00000001 to 0.0000000001 and it is voted on via miners do you concede that to be okay. note I said sats to 1/100 sats or eight digits to ten digits. |
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I know that BTC is directly responsible for the install ion of 2 solars arrays we use 45kwatts 115kwatts and is responsible for the 280kwatt array we are installing today. Worthless real estate ie rooftops are now creating power. So BTC actually creates new real estate and new power. much like a hammer it is a tool that if use properly helps people. Philipma, are you using battery storage or grid-tied? Just curious. grid. NJ is a net meter state. so use factors of 5 and 6 like this 280/5 = 56 280/6 = 46.67 so the 280 watts array will give between 46.67 to 56 kwatts 24/7/365 depends on rainy year vs dry year. so the big array can do 14 to 17 s19pro miners for btc or 23 to 28 12 card server cases for the shit coin eth |
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mining on low settings getting 107.5mh/s at 60c core with nicehash os but how can i see vram temps i think the backplat is too hot when i touch
How about power consumption? Did you lowered the power limit? 3080s and 3090s are hot, specially on the memory, you can put a 120mm fan blowing air into the backplate, it helps a lot to reduce the temperature Some people even put heatsinks on backplate, but a fan should be enough You can find a lot of content if you search on google "reducing memory temperature rtx 3090", some people make a new backplate, some changed thermal pads, you can read to understand better, about safe temps to mine, but again, a simple fan can help you reducing temp does the card thermal throttle itself if mem temp reach dangerous levels yes sometimes dropping ram settings does better as it runs cooler. if you are running windows you can do gpu-z software to see your memory temp. under 90 is better and at 100-110 it will throttle |
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I know that BTC is directly responsible for the install ion of 2 solars arrays we use 45kwatts 115kwatts and is responsible for the 280kwatt array we are installing today. Worthless real estate ie rooftops are now creating power. So BTC actually creates new real estate and new power. much like a hammer it is a tool that if use properly helps people. |
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in general I do not delete many posts.
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my cost to get the 296 = 50% or I net 148 a day very sure very steady subject to price of btc and the difficulty.
How are you coming up with a specific daily dollar amount number if it changes every day based on BTC price and difficulty? Are you averaging it out over a period of time, or are you picking a mode amount from your recent daily payments? I know getting into more of your business than you have already disclosed. Can you choose whether to get paid in BTC or dollars or in some other way? Okay my main farm is on viabtc todays $ per th of btc is .2284 cents it moves around but it is very stable about 3% under 6.25 so they pay about 6.06 per block todays rate was 97.28 which is 6.08 per block I take my btc earnings in btc. I have BTC ETH Doge/LTC gear. I take all payment as the coin they mine I sell all the Eth I hodl the btc I sell the Doge/LTC Some of the sales for for gear Some of the sales go for more btc. most miners that play a bit of solo of a small pool where they may get .75 btc on a block hit calculated the math daily Most of us have 1 or 2 or 3 % of the gear solo mining and 99 or 98 or 97 % on a steady pool So viabtc for me is high cost low risk low yield investment ie the odds say I should turn a profit and solo mining or small little pools are low cost high risk high yield in theory they should both do the same profit over long times. as the. {low cost x high risk x high yield} should equal {high cost x low risk x low yield} over proper time duration Better way to illustrate is sept 2011 to oct 2021 = zero hits for mmpool. My hash spent in that time was or would have earned .6 btc I had 0 btc I look stupid. But block in oct block in nov block in dec I grabbed 1.3 btc should have had about .65 btc I look smart. Truth is normal luck I would have hit 1 block at .7 btc share from sept 2017 to dec 2021 and would have earned .65 if I mine at viabtc. So I have very good luck and got 2x normal luck. from 2017 to 2021 plus prices were 4k back in 2017 and grew to 67k by the third hit in 2021. |
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40MH @538$ from A2000 is a steal tell me where i can buy these card at this price it's way better than a gtx1660 super which is now 700$ in my country and it produce only 30MH, it's getting more difficult to build a rig with peace of mind.
They delayed my shipment from Nov 18 to Nov 30 to Dec 24 to Jan 5 to March 1 so the price is not a bargain if they won't ship them. Heck I have another source has the balls to list them at 508 with a write over that says not available. I am dead in the water at the moment. |
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why not play 2 or 3 or 4 or even 10 dollars a day at a long shot when you earn the safe mining. and the long shot mine plays way better then the cost. just takes time.
I know it's a rhetorical question, but if anyone cares - variance is the answer to "why not". The 1:3664 chance for the pool to find a block means it would take 10 years on average, but it's not a 100% chance in 10 years. I'm too lazy to calculate now but there's probably like a 10% chance that it won't hit a block in 20 years. I'm not saying this is a wrong strategy - like you said, compared to casino gambling you have an edge here as long as the cost/difficulty ratio is favorable. It's still a massive gamble though. I am not a very political person. Some would say I am lacking principal. But I will be uninstalling Firefox for sure. Not sure what that accomplishes. But I do not want to have ANYTHING to do with supporting the sorts of garbage they seem to be supporting.
If you're not political you should ignore the noise, uninstall Chrome/Edge/etc and support Firefox. Seriously, most of the other browsers are a steaming pile of garbage developed by the largest spyware company in the world. No it is a low cost high risk high yield investment a massive gamble would be playing the 1300th at solo vs the 15th at solo. a lot of people fail to understand the principle of low cost high risk high yield investment they think it is a gamble. there is a huge difference playing say NY lotto pick it a 10000 to 1 shot that pays 5000 to 1 = gambling don't do thisor a solo pool that is a 10000 to 1 shot that pays 30000 to 1 = low cost high risk high yield investment do this |
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This is not a once in a 70 Day chance, if it was we all be hearing about it and everyone would be solo mining... You will need about 17,500TH to be hitting a block every 70days.
You are using a PPS method to calculate the above. Statistically it is what you would generate with the current network difficulty.
Excluding fees/cost/etc and any network diff changes, you are earning 0.00065BTC a day
If difficulty was to never rise and fall, it would take approx 9,615 days to generate 6.25BTC or approx 26 Years.
Here are some numbers and facts to drool over...
Every hash has an equal chance of hitting a block
There is approx. 175,000,000TH or 175,000,000,000,000,000,000 Hash
126TH or 126,000,000,000,000 Hash is approx 0.000072% of the over all hash rate
Remember, statistically speaking, you will never hit a block, but that doesn't mean you will not get lucky. (glitch in the Matrix)
So yes it is a once in a life time hit.
Probably Black Jack has about the best odds for the player out of any of the casino games, so long as the casino does not further undermine the odds by adding new unfair rules (or rules that worsen odds of regular blackjack)... but even with odds of maybe 1% to 2% against the player, some players believe that they can beat the odds to cause them to become 1% to 2% in their favor - mostly by attempting to play consistently with a system that maybe allows to change their bet on certain conditions (probably a kind of counting involved too, even though some players claim that they can consistently win at blackjack without counting cards). Playing Black Jack sounds much better than the odds being described above - hence likely the reason that hardly anyone mines solo unless they have enough hashpower to hit on a fairly regular basis, maybe monthly or so.. which probably would cost quite a bit of money to get to that level of hashpower.. so yeah mining has been questionably profitable through the years as compared with just buying coins. I suppose that if the miner cannot generate enough hashpower to attempt to hit close to 10--12 times per year, then such miner then is forced (for practical purposes) to join a pool. This post likely demonstrates part of the reason that I am not a miner.... and just a plain Jane buyer of bitcoins (or would it be a plain Joe?). Edited: Made a few clarification and fleshing out of idea attempts. <snip>i just feel 10,000 to 1 is not a right representation of the odds of hitting a block regardless of time/duration. it's not 1:10000 per block in his example, it is 1:10000 per day. There are about 6X24=144 blocks a day, so the chance per block is 1:1440000 (one in 1.44 mil blocks) in his example. @jjg..almost no one is mining solo, true...that was just one person who hit the jackpot. Or, maybe, he had 101 machines with 100 mining in a pool and 1 "playing lottery"...this is not possible to determine. Some old timers do this kind of thing.I do that in a modified version. two very small pools not solo mmpool.org and Laurentia.org I mine 20th at each one I get a share of the pool if we hit the block, but the pools are so small it is a big share. and I mine 1300th at a pool that gives daily payouts. look here I am in 3rd place https://pool.laurentiapool.org/#/minersI get 0.75 btc if the pool hits a block. This is a modified hodl method. where you hodl the potential payout. not the actual coins pretend we have 393th as the team that is 1,440,000/393 = 3664 to 1 chance the block hit 1 block today I get .75 x 43700 = 32,775 for playing the pool all day and hitting a block what is my cost 15 th x .2284 = $3.426 if it was in sure earnings pool well I have 1300 x .2284 = $296.92 in the sure earnings pool who cares about the $3.43 I risk daily for a 32,775 payout check those odds 32,775/3.43 = I am getting a payout of 9555 to 1 and what are the odds of hitting this 3664 to 1 so this is a low cost high risk high return investment. Basically for today I play a 3664 to 1 shot and if I hit I get paid 9555 to 1 one could argue my math is wrong but it is based on a 144 block day not 1 block. and it is based on the 15th loss of mining income with free power. which is $3.43 you could argue I should count the power cost for that 15th in my case it is $1.56 which means I spend $1.56 to do this each day not the $3.43 I would have collected or you could could use 3.43-1.56 = 1.87 but 3.43 cost vs 1.87 cost vs 1.56 cost means I did the least favorable interpretation 32,775 payout 32,775/3.43 = 9555 to 1 32,775/1.87 = 17,526 to 1 32,775/1.56 = 21,009 to 1 I ask anyone who would not want to play 1.56 a day for 32,775 if the odds of collecting are 3664 to 1 or play 1.87 a day for the same 32,775 at 3,664 to 1 or play 3.43 a day to get 32,775 at 3,664 to 1 you would be surprised how many people do not understand and argue that I am wrong. in each and every case I give I am simply doing a low cost high risk high yield investment that over time should score bigly. Of course it does not mean it will it only means the odds favor the play. unlike a casino where the odds do not favor the play mining = investing odds are in your favor casino = gambling odd are against you viabtc.com the payout is steady 1300th earns 296 a day pre power cost. this is a high cost low risk low yield investment my cost to get the 296 = 50% or I net 148 a day very sure very steady subject to price of btc and the difficulty. My gear cost is now 0 my power and infrastructure cost is always 50% of the coin mined. so when bears wake up I still earn when bulls are running my host does better than I do. but in 2018 and 2019 and 1/2 of 2020 the bear was very nasty my deal worked well. Back to solo mining or tiny pool mining why not play 2 or 3 or 4 or even 10 dollars a day at a long shot when you earn the safe mining. and the long shot mine plays way better then the cost. just takes time. |
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