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8021  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 07:22:39 PM
Seller name: Eesti Investeerimishobe OU. Incorporated: in Estonia 2009. Industry: Precious Metals dealer. Cumulative Sales: €2.8 Million.

We offer the following special deal for bitcoin users: Mint condition Canada Maple Leaf 1oz silver coins in small or big quantity. VAT=0%.
Yes, in Estonia we can legally sell you silver coins that are taxable at 0%. Don't tell anyone so that we don't get competition.

Yes, at the price below you can purchase 1 Ounce Canada Maple Leaf Coins. For this price they are free for pick-up in Tallinn. If you want shipping, we will add the actual 3rd party cost, nothing more. Shipping into Europe ONLY. I am sorry to inform that we can at present sell only in Mint tubes of 25 pieces. We currently have about 5000 coins in stock.

CURRENT PRICE FOR CANADA MAPLE LEAF 1 OUNCE SILVER COIN:
0.790BTC



-----VOLUME DISCOUNT-----
ORDER AT LEAST 500: -1.5%
ORDER AT LEAST 1000: -2%
ORDER AT LEAST 2000: -2.5%
8022  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 07:21:52 PM
We are selling Maple Leaves at about 0.73 BTC at the moment with automated pricing as well. Shouldn't your prices be lower as well?

Link or didn't happen Smiley

From a quick browse of your website,
- you are based in US.
- prices are in USD.

So it does not qualify until you post a link that it can be delivered in EU and the applicable VAT is included in the price.

You know, if I order from you, I need to pay 24% VAT at the border. That factored in, your offer is .9052.

I very much admire and respect your business and wish I would have the website as nice as you. But sorry.
8023  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Gold/Platinum/Silver Bars + Silver Proof Coins/Silver Bullion on: March 12, 2013, 06:05:58 PM

Hi, You did not reply my PM. Are you willing to buy the Maple Leafs for .800BTC?
8024  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
OP edited. Why do you want me to be 15% lower than anyone else, is it not enough to be cheapest?

OK, I think I need to cancel the offer of BTC10. I am in the favor of the idea, but it is too difficult to practically judge who has the intention to sell cheapest. Also the terms are not so clearly defined. The spirit of the offer was to give BTC10 to charity if there is objectively found somebody who can sell cheaper. Not to the first one who says "me!".

That said, the volatility makes it difficult to manually update prices. Perhaps I should move on to auction some of it away. I would probably net a better price also  Grin
8025  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 04:21:23 PM
I sell at 0,86BTC right now. I agree that that's PRETTY DAMN LOW but then, my pricing is automated.
According to your VAT-free claims, your price should be at least 15% lower.

OP edited. Why do you want me to be 15% lower than anyone else, is it not enough to be cheapest?
8026  Economy / Speculation / Re: calm the fuck down everyone on: March 12, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
This was 100% from the issue at hand. I personally sold everything I had on Gox before it really went public. It was going on in IRC for half an hour before it was anywhere else. The dumps are 100% because of the technical malfunction.

The market will be oversold soon though so look for cheap coins tomorrow :>

I bought them. I don't regret a minute for my purchase, because there are bigger things going on. If everything goes as planned, this will take the price to around $30 enabling me and my friends to purchase 50% more bitcoins in the following weeks. I will be buying all the way down.

Ahhh....

You should never tell your actual intention. Rewrite:

Lucky that I also sold most of my coins on your advice, pal. The ramifications of this fork are immense, it is good that not many know about the real situation yet. I get to unload most of the remaining stash maybe at $30 or $25, a good price given the fact that there are no buyers left. I will be selling all the way down, it does not matter which price I get because BTC is doomed anyway.
8027  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 01:10:35 PM
Currently we still can sell directly for BTC. You can still buy 1 round for less than 1BTC, not sure if the price will hold there may be correction coming, and this Exactly is the reason to have silver in the first place. Because it gives you good sleep.

Price guarantee: We only ship in the EU. There is no dealer that sells silver cheaper for BTC than we do anywhere in EU. If you find one, I will publicly apologize, lower my price to match his and give 10BTC towards a charity or BTC-project of your choice. Terms:

- Professional dealer, must have been in the marketplace for more than a year
- Same product and at least 1000 coins publicly for sale at the said price
- Price given in BTC, dealer accepts BTC as the sole payment for metals

Thank you,
8028  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 08:29:16 AM
Price updated.
8029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 12, 2013, 08:28:17 AM
Despite WHATEVER happening in fiat world, I am still selling 1oz Mint State Silver Canadian Maple Rounds for BTC.

Check the terms:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151800

Bitstamp is not accepting BTC deposits. You are doomed. Buy some silver with your BTC NOW  Grin

BTC you send will be valid after 20 confirmations, you can personally take delivery of the silver.

Apologies for trolling style, the offers are serious and come from a legally incorporated company that has been around for years. This is just so fun Smiley
8030  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 12, 2013, 08:21:42 AM
Price updated because of Bitcoin crashing.
8031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 12, 2013, 07:50:57 AM
Despite the crash, I am willing to trade 5000 ounces of silver in Canada Maple Leaf 1 Oz Rounds for 3750 bitcoins. PM me.

Price valid after I confirm. Fly to Tallinn, Estonia to take immediate physical delivery of this silver. You can legally take it anywhere in EU without needing to pay any tax or duty. Rent a car and do it. What an unbelievable way to get some real wealth  Grin
8032  Economy / Speculation / Re: SELL! SELL! SELL! on: March 12, 2013, 07:38:16 AM
See, I'm trolling with the idea of going to $20, like a boss, lol
8033  Economy / Speculation / Re: SELL! SELL! SELL! on: March 12, 2013, 07:37:20 AM
I totally and wholeheartedly agree. We are going to single digits for sure. $20 is the interim target.
8034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: March 11, 2013, 10:36:44 PM

It's nice you can sell w/o VAT, but your price (0.75 BTC/oz * 36.81 EUR/BTC = 27.6 EUR/oz) is still €2 higher than the price by "kronwitter" mentioned above (23.925 EUR/oz * 1.07 (VAT) = 25.60 EUR/oz), even though that include 7% VAT. Excluding their VAT you're 15% above kronwitter.

If you plan on supporting fiat economy, kronwitter is probably a good choice Smiley I don't have time to think about euro going up or down...

Do you know any business that sells for BTC.73125000 or less? I can match any competition  Grin
8035  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 11, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
i'll buy 5 to 10 tubes if you send first.
willing to ID etc etc.

You are a dealer, right. Between dealers it is always payment first, metal second. Always. Smiley
8036  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (Maple Leaf 1oz Coins) on: March 11, 2013, 10:23:22 PM
sounds like a great offer...

some questions:

  • will you allow escrow?
  • how often are you going to update price?
  • what's the shipping cost to germany?

Hi,

Can you devise an escrow system for me? I have never applied it in PM sales (also when I order, it is always cash first), but I am open to all new ideas. I have had this business from 2006 and total sales in all the companies is abt 10M, also I have AAA credit rating, so the risk is already significantly lower than with new players.

I will update price whenever the BTC/silver exchange rate moves to warrant a new price. I really want that the heroic early adapters of BTC would diversify some into the second most interesting value store - silver. I know this price is really low, and I am only able to sell VAT-free up to a certain limit per destination EU country.

As for shipping cost, how many would you like to have? My friendly staff will find it out tomorrow.
8037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: March 11, 2013, 09:57:10 PM
Why/how is the price going up with buy volume lagging sooooo far behind.  I don't really see any respectable volume on the buy side until $46ish.  That seems like it'd just invite selling down to volume.

In every other market, yes.
8038  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: March 11, 2013, 09:55:16 PM

That's where I bought most of my silver, so I also think they are trustworthy (though they sucked at communication). The other seller I used was Geiger Edelmetalle, and they were perfect. Germany is better for silver because it's (afaik) the lowest vat in the Schengen zone on silver.
And I bought & sold gold from a french company, ccopera.com


Actually the lowest VAT is in Estonia. There is a really great pricing on Silver Maple Leafs here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151800.0

In BTCitcoins, naturally Smiley
8039  Economy / Goods / Re: Check Current Price From OP! (VAT=0% Europe Maple Leaf 1oz Silver Coins) on: March 11, 2013, 02:37:05 PM
Hi all,

I figured out that it is time for many of us to diversify, and what would be better than Silver?  Smiley
The company that me and my wife own 100%, now gives out Maple Leaf silver coins in tubes of 25 pieces for a great price. No hassle, we will ship it to you inside Europe, or better still you come to Tallinn and have a beer with us while taking delivery of your investment  Grin

This has been around before Bitcoin, so have a taste of the Old World and enjoy your BTC gains responsibly!

If you lock-in via PM or post to this thread, we will honor the price that was current before your post. When I change the price, there will no more be orders for the previous price. You can also text +358503235950.

Risto Pietilä

Owner & Operator, Hopea.fi
Owner & Chairman, Eesti Investeerimishobe OU
Founder & Chairman, Silverbank.net (Silvervault OU)
8040  Economy / Goods / 1OZ SILVER MAPLE LEAF / CHECK BEST PRICE IN OP on: March 11, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
Seller name: Eesti Investeerimishobe OU. Incorporated: in Tallinn, Estonia 2009. Industry: Precious Metals dealer. Cumulative Sales: €2.8 Million. Cumulative Sales in this Forum since March 13, 2013 and Number of Orders: Our receiving address.

We offer the following special deal for bitcoin users: Mint condition Canada Maple Leaf 1oz silver coins in small or big quantity.

Yes, at the price below you can purchase 1 Ounce Canada Maple Leaf Coins. Shipping and handling into EU is included in the price, also you will not be liable to pay any tax since we will ship only according to our 0% tax quota. This is the absolute total price that you pay to get Maple Leaf coins directly to your home address.

Shipping into continental European Union ONLY. We currently have about 5,000 coins in stock, and we will tell you if we run low on the product. With Us, You Always Buy What We Can Ship Right Away.

CURRENT PRICE FOR CANADA MAPLE LEAF 1 OUNCE SILVER COIN (per 100 coins):
BTC



CURRENT PRICE FOR SILVER AMERICAN EAGLE = BTC0.003 HIGHER THAN MAPLE LEAF! PLEASE INDICATE WHICH COINS YOU WANT AND CALCULATE THE PRICE ACCORDINGLY. Limited Number of Eagles Available.


-----VOLUME DISCOUNT-----
MINIMUM ORDER = 100 MAPLE LEAF 1OZ SILVER COINS (for )

IF YOU ORDER MORE THAN 700 SILVER COINS; PLEASE CONTACT US BEFOREHAND. You will get better price but will need to arrange the shipping separately for VAT tax reasons.

Ask for other products via PM.


How Do You Order From Us?

1. First, be sure that Your shipping address is in continental European Union free trade area. We will not ship anywhere else, please don't ask us to do that, we won't.

2. We want to offer you instant lock-in 24/7 for smaller amount of coins, up to 700 coins (700 Troy Ounces of silver that is currently valued at . For greater amounts, you have to PM me and we negotiate the terms of the deal.

3. For instant lock-in, you look at the price in this post and pay it according to instructions as follows.

4. You PM me first your name and address and the total amount of coins, the total price, and your message in satoshi. How? The message is a number from 111 to 999, which you decide, and add to the sum in satoshi. Eg. You want to order 200 coins at the price of BTC0.0210 per coin. You calculate your amount payable as follows: 200 * 0.021 + message*0.00000001. Assuming your message is 337, this evaluates to: 4.2 + 0.00000337 = 4.20000337. This is of paramount importance, as this is the way how I will be able to connect you to the incoming funds.

Of course I will give you your coins even if you do not obey orders: if no-one else files a claim in 7 calendar days, I will believe that beyond reasonable doubt it was you who sent it. You can also prove you are the owner of the address, by re-sending a message that I choose and PM you. And there are other ways to do it. But you save yourself from worry if you do it exactly as told, since these fall-back measures are not 100% trustable, and I will deduct 5 silver coins from your order as office expenses, should we need to use them.

5. Immediately after you have sent the PM, you send the BTC to the following address:
14qLvPSKEma76haeeJNF7vN2D26KYAUuXT

You have 10 minutes from the timestamp of your PM to do this, as you have locked in the price upon sending the PM, and we will honor it no matter what, and we will NOT give you 15 minutes to look to the future and then decide whether you will stick to your commitment or not, because we as a multimillion dollar company will always need to keep ours - this saves Us from slippage and ensures that You will continue to be offered good prices and impeccable speed and reliability of service.

6. Please note: It may take up to 48 hours for me to get back to you, as sometimes I am working and sometimes not. This will not affect the terms of the deal in any way. Your price is locked in, so you have nothing to worry about. You have paid, so I have nothing to worry about. I do have the stock at hand physically in my offices and full-security own bank vault in Tallinn, Estonia. If I need to be away for more than 48 hours, I will notify you in this post and/or temporarily close the offering for the said time.

7. We will ship in 3 working days. This means that if you pay on Monday (GMT+2), your order will be shipped Thursday at the latest. If you pay on Friday, it will be shipped the next Wednesday at the latest. If we cannot keep this promise concerning shipping, we will reimburse you with 1 Silver Maple Leaf 1oz coin PER DAY that the shipping has delayed. (No, we will not reduce your shipment if we can do it in less than 3 days.)

8. All orders are shipped, tracked and insured at no extra cost to You. We PM you the tracking code once we have it. We consider that the order is delivered, once it enters the post office of the final destination. If you do not collect the parcel and it is returned to us, we will try to connect to you and do whatever we can, to send it back to you, at your expense. If we cannot contact you in 14 days since the parcel was returned to us, we will buy it back at the current spot rate of silver and send the BTC back to the address where you paid it from. The more information and contact details you give about yourself, the easier it will be for us to handle the error modes. We will not sell your details to anyone, and the Estonian government actually minds their own business, this is one of the best places in the world to incorporate a business, that is why I am here.

9. Post here for any clarifications that you may require, BEFORE you order. Upon ordering, you submit to these terms.

10. Trustlink:
I have written in the webpage of another silver company that I am Chairman of, the following words:
"The Chairman of the Supervisory Board and founder of the company is Risto Pietilä. He is an entrepreneur with 12 years of experience in growth companies. He started the investment silver industry in Finland in 2006. His nick in Bitcointalk forum is rpietila."
https://www.silverbank.net/index.php/en/meista

This establishes beyond reasonable doubt that I work in this industry as a professional. If this is not enough for you, I advice you to buy from the other fine companies out there with bigger selection of products, higher prices and longer delivery times.
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