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8081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 14, 2022, 03:10:09 PM
it is hard to win because people doesn't have a "scientific approach" or a professional approach to the gambling.
I think that addiction in gambling is a serious issue that could create a lot of other problem in real life, like drug addiction or any other dependance.
Here there is not "overdose" but it could be really easy waste big sum of money in a short time Sad that sounds equally as a complete disaster for the well being of a person.

A lot of people take a scientific approach to gambling - the best strategy is to avoid it  Grin All the rest who invent "systems", "strategies" and so on are only engaged in self-deception and in fact they are ordinary gamblers. The only exception category is bettors, but there are very few professionals among them also.
8082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid! on: June 14, 2022, 03:05:29 PM
For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.

Yes, I agree with all the things that were mentioned about him. But I still believe that he should be given a little more time. I think he is still a good coach and if he had a little more attacking flexibility he could have come out with a win against Real Madrid in the Champions League. So, he should be given time for at least one more season and after that, if he fails to prove his worth then these things will make a lot more sense.

To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.
8083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 14, 2022, 03:01:40 PM
https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2022/06/13/62a73b9be2704e1ea98b4574.html

Marca says that Liverpool and Manchester City both are making attempts to sign Barcelona's very young (17-year-old) midfielder Gavi now. He is still performing impressively despite his very young age now and this has attracted the attention of big teams as a result. On the other hand Barcelona have increased his release clause to an astonishing number like 100 million euros. This would cause these teams to step back for now maybe. Liverpool would step back I think but I'm not sure about Manchester City as they are one of the richest teams in the league.  Grin

I think if Barcelona don't offer him an adequate salary (I don't think they will) City or Liverpool will buy him before this contract clause is activated. I hope Gavi will escape from this mess and start a normal career, now trying to stay in Barcelona he is losing time and prospects. In Liverpool or City, he will reach a new level much faster.
8084  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Coinlist - хайп площадка токенсейлов on: June 14, 2022, 09:43:01 AM
Coinlist начинает выстраивать новую модель распределения токенов. Она будет выстраиваться по двум параметрам: Карма на КЛ и история кошелька. Если коротко, то флипперам будет сложнее зайти в проект. Малость, конечно, затянули с нововведениями. Последний сейл Ондо уже итак показал, что теперь на КЛ людей долго не будет)

https://blog.coinlist.co/building-community-in-crypto-the-evolution-of-token-distribution-models/
https://blog.coinlist.co/building-communities-in-crypto-the-future-of-token-distribution-models/

Как же убого выглядят эти "инновации" чтобы хайпы выглядели не как хайпы, и цикл памп дамп растягивался. Один фиг все всё понимают и возможно предстоящая медвежка прикончит и эту инкарнацию площадки для ммм-шек.
Пора новое уже что-то придумывать. Ну там акфионерное общество Гигантских Растений например  Grin
8085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 13, 2022, 02:07:40 PM
Winning in gambling is as easy as shelling pears - for example, make 10 bets on any event with odds of 1.9 and you will win about 5 times. Another thing is that gambling is difficult to be and remain profitable. But in fact, this is not a problem, since gambling exists not for making money, but for entertainment, so just treat gambling as entertainment (paid) and you will not be tormented by such problems.
8086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid! on: June 13, 2022, 02:00:27 PM
I wonder how Klopp's innovativeness manifests itself in your opinion? His team plays the same football as 5 and 10 years ago.
As for Guardiola, I can't think of anything about him that would make him stand out among hundreds of other coaches. His only "innovation" is to get a top team and take titles with it - Barcelona then Bayern with which he could not win the Champions League and now City which spend space money on football players but again he cannot win the Champions League.

I don't think that only winning the Champions League should suggest the quality of a coach. But in this case, exceptions can be made because Pep Guardiola has a very good team playing under him.
I really think that he should have won the Champions League this time with Manchester City. But they have lost to Real Madrid which absolutely can be said did not have a very good squad, hope they will be able to do better in the next season.

For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.
8087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 13, 2022, 01:45:29 PM
Small rumors or big?
If Ronaldo will choose to leave Manchester then Roma will be interested in him.
Not sure if it is a big or small rumor.  Grin
I already heard this rumor many times, Roma wants to sign Ronaldo if he decides to leave Man United for the next season. But I think Ronaldo doesn't want to go back to Italy (Serie A). He may think to go to another league, maybe Ligue 1 (PSG). Or if he still has a goal in Man United, he may stay in Man United for 1-2 seasons. But to go to Italy (Roma), I doubt it.

I agree. This rumor looks like an April Fool's joke. I could believe in some variant involving a team playing in the Champions League but going to Roma which will play in the Europa League just like United does not make any sense. Eric Ten Hag confirmed that he is interested in Ronaldo, so problems with the coach are excluded.
8088  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: TERRA on: June 13, 2022, 01:36:56 PM
в луне2 это не более чем жадность и желание обуть лохов по второму (нному) кругу.

Ну а  что вы предлагаете? Нужно было вообще убрать возможность что-либо вытащить из луны? Делистнуть со всех бирж и не оставить никакого способа хоть как-то забрать часть своего? Ясное дело, что здесь не желание помочь пользователям/холдерам, а лишь забота о собственном благополучии, но возможность что-то забрать из скама, чего-то, да стоит.

Я понимаю что такое предложение прозвучит как чистый экстремизм, но:

Публично послать Квона нахер, делистнуть Луну1/Уст, объявить Луну2 скамом и заявить что "такая честная контора как банан, не может даже в погоне за прибылью иметь дело с заведомо скамными проектами так как очень ценит комьюнити и прочее прочее".

Это подняло бы репутацию банана и Сизого, возможно помогло бы пользователям (в том числе банану) вытащить какие-то деньги из скама (были же вроде резервы в битках). На круг это гораздо более прибыльно чем этот нелепый скам 2.0 который скорее заставляет с опаской относится к любым другим проектам (крипта это будущее финансов ага), и к самому банану.

Но все пошло как пошло, и естественно какой-то план у Сизого был, только по итогу он вряд ли что-то смог с его помощью вернуть/заработать, может только пару страничек к будущему уголовному делу добавил  Grin
8089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 13, 2022, 01:25:08 PM
Roma (who is now owned by Americans) after Mou and after the win of the Confederation cup is rumored to want to buy a big name.
Keep in mind they want the big clickbait name not the best player in the world.

Juventus should sing Di Maria and Pogba.

Milan could have Botman.

Bernardeschi will probably join Napoli.

Dybala will probably go to Inter.
Lukaku is working to go back to Inter.

Inter need to end the market session with a +70m, so if Dybala and Lukaku goes to Inter, Shrinkiar will probably leave for PSG and another one will leave so I don't know if it will be an upgrade for them (maybe Luautaro is the second who can leave)

Ibrahimovic in Roma?  Grin
In fact I think Roma would be more profitable to buy several players than one super player - too many positions need to be strengthened and a "uniformly" strong team is what most suits the implementation of Mourinho's ideas in my opinion.
I heard that Di Maria has already offered his services to Juventus and is waiting for a response, quite an interesting situation.
8090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: June 13, 2022, 01:17:44 PM
It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
8091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: June 13, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
And Piqué said that it was unpleasant for him to learn about this from the news.

I think that was Busquets who came out and said that but yeah Barcelona were bit unprofessional there.

Yes, but I am sure that in essence their position is solidary on this issue.
By the way, I heard that Barcelona will have problems even if they decide to simply terminate the contract - either debts or bonuses will bring the final settlement to 70 million (I don’t remember for one player or just for Piqué). In general, there is an extremely confusing situation and so far there is no good way out.

Plus, the issue with Lewandowski remains unresolved.

Lewandowski is a complicated one. Both Barca and player want to happen but Lewandowski has one year left on his contract. Bayern expects Lewandowski to fulfill his contract while Lewandowski and Barca expects to respect the player and allow him to leave. So unless Bayern somehow feels like it's time to let Lewandowski go, I don't think this is gonna happen.

Respect is good when it is mutual. Lewandowski has a contract, he himself signed it and Bavaria has the right to rely either on his services or on the compensation that would suit it. Given the fact that the price tag on Mane is growing, their desire to get an adequate amount for Lewandowski is understandable.
8092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Pros and Cons of Bitcoin Gambling on: June 13, 2022, 12:58:53 PM
The value of bitcoin if you're going to gamble right now will depend on what you feel. If it's totally okay with the current price of bitcoin then you can gamble no matter what the situation is.
But if you're thinking about the current value of it then that's lesser bitcoin for you to gamble. This moment is tackling everyone as we're in the bear market, we still have options and they're a lot so if you don't like to gamble in bitcoin, choose the other options.

I wonder how those who strictly adhere to the budget feel today, but even without playing, they have lost more than 10% of their capital in bitcoin today. It is clear that for those who have been in cryptocurrency for a long time, such fluctuations are not surprising, but for new people who have begun to use bitcoin for purely utilitarian purposes, this can bring unpleasant emotions.
8093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: June 13, 2022, 12:54:43 PM
Sure. I'm glad that I don't watch games - at most I read text broadcasts or then watch highlights. If I watched the games I would get a double disappointment, for example I bet on the victory of England against Italy and England cannot beat the second team of Italy (or the third lol). The game ends 0-0, if in addition to the lost bet I lost another 1.5 hours of time to see 0-0 I would be very angry.

The performance of each team in the Nations League is very disappointing. And in most matches the second-tier players of the teams perform. As a result, the performance of the teams is worse. And it is very difficult to predict the outcome of the match between these teams. Strong teams are also losing badly against relatively weak teams.

Many players have complained that UEFA, without thinking about them, makes them play the hardest games after the end of the season in the heat that has already begun. It is clear that the attitude to games is not as responsible as it could be, and by the way, the status of the tournament also contributes to this. This is sad from the point of view of the fans, but from the point of view of betters, it has both pluses and minuses.
8094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 13, 2022, 12:51:06 PM
Selfish?  Huh I don't know what you mean, but I would say that in Barcelona the game scheme assumed that one player would profit from the actions of the whole team. If someone does not believe, then he can look at the same scheme in the Spanish national team where Villa was such a player.
As far as fan expectations are concerned, they didn't just arised, right? When someone is called a football genius and given a billion golden balls, you can expect him to play at least a little better than the average player.
Now compare it to the current pattern of PSG's game when some people prefer to play the ball alone and sometimes there are fights on the field with teammates, isn't this ego exaggeration?
Messi won't be able to adapt quickly because indeed the difference here is too big both in terms of play and attack patterns and it will be more difficult if things like this continue but this will certainly continue especially with the gap created now that Mbappe is given more power.

I haven't seen many PSG games this season but I haven't heard of anything like what you're talking about. PSG have a more even distribution of goals than Barcelona, that's a fact. Mbappe scored a lot, but the lead is not as big as Messi's in Barcelona. Maybe something will change in the team (Mbappe's trading exploits will likely bring some friction to the PSG team) but I don't think Messi will change next season.
8095  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: TERRA on: June 13, 2022, 12:40:46 PM
Ах вооот оно что, я и забыла об этом совсем, тогда это вообще забавно выглядит как сизый пытался дозвониться до До Квона и что-то обсудить(будущее проекта, как он говорил, со стороны выглядит, будто сизый хомяк и в суматохе думает что делать). Хотя что он смог вернуть - вот что интересно, явно не лярд, который потерял

Ярд он потерял виртуальный. Такой же виртуальный как и те которыми владели многие случайные владельцы щитков (баунтисты, флипперы и т.д.) которые сделали сотни и тысячи иксов а потом снова вернулись в ноль. Инвестировалась сумма на порядки меньшая. Так что участие банана в луне2 это не более чем жадность и желание обуть лохов по второму (нному) кругу.
8096  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🏒 NHL Stanley Cup Final 🏒 Tampa Bay vs Colorado 🏒 Game 1 on: June 13, 2022, 12:35:57 PM
A) Colorado
B)  Under
C)  No   
D)  Colorado     
E)  Tampa Bay   
F)  Colorado     
G)  Colorado     
H)  10' 
8097  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Дно которое все ждали on: June 12, 2022, 06:35:29 PM
^

Рынки слишком раздуты ожиданиями и когда наступает момент истины (кризис, пандемия, война и т.д.) многие переоценивают эти активы и избавляются  от них в пользу более привычных ценностей. И так будет продолжаться бесконечно, т.к. криптовалюты создавались в первую очередь для использования, а не спекуляций и сохранения в них ценности.

Но ведь антикризисный актив хеджирующий инфляцию цифровое золото?





Вообще интересно будет наблюдать как сейчас проекты которые раскрутились на всякого рода стекингах, залогах-перезалогах и т.д. будут закручиваться обратно. Ведь на росте какие-то убытки/проблемы компенсировались притоком новых пользователей/денег. А сейчас при отливе без трусов окажутся точно не только ЛУНОинвесторы.
8098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: June 12, 2022, 05:58:56 PM
Hungary 1 - 1 Germany

Germany failed to defeat Hungary and remained in 3rd place. Quite an interesting situation in the A3 group - from the first place to the last, the difference is 3 points. In this group of death, Hungary looks good and comes in second place. It will be unexpected if, as a result of the group stage, not Hungary, but England/Germany will fall out of the group. Italy seems to be playing solidly - at least they don't have defeats.
it's like a hell group but the gameplay shown in every match is not that impressive i guess. Even the goal ratio in the 3 matches that have been made in this group is very poor in my opinion.
But on the other hand I quite applaud Hungary at the moment because they are very capable of dealing with the dominance of a club that is generally far above them

Sure. I'm glad that I don't watch games - at most I read text broadcasts or then watch highlights. If I watched the games I would get a double disappointment, for example I bet on the victory of England against Italy and England cannot beat the second team of Italy (or the third lol). The game ends 0-0, if in addition to the lost bet I lost another 1.5 hours of time to see 0-0 I would be very angry.
8099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 12, 2022, 05:53:01 PM
On the one hand, Messi's results are not bad, on the other hand, an ordinary average player in such a powerful club as PSG, in my opinion, would have achieved no worse results. Still, given the level of the French championship and the level of PSG, this is quite expected. And it is obvious that the drop in results is due to age, but we should not forget that PSG is very different from Barcelona, where there was a different game model and most of the team worked for Messi.
In this case, it would be very selfish to compare Messi's performance at PSG and at Barcelona. As you said age is the natural enemy of soccer players and indeed the essence cannot be changed.
Apart from that, his performance is still quite good actually for his current age, but the fans' expectations are still too big which makes the pressure even bigger.

Selfish?  Huh I don't know what you mean, but I would say that in Barcelona the game scheme assumed that one player would profit from the actions of the whole team. If someone does not believe, then he can look at the same scheme in the Spanish national team where Villa was such a player.
As far as fan expectations are concerned, they didn't just arised, right? When someone is called a football genius and given a billion golden balls, you can expect him to play at least a little better than the average player.
8100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem on: June 12, 2022, 05:46:46 PM
I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.
So those near winning patterns are the triggers? Possible but wont really be that precise because emotion and mindset will surely mix up which would go along with those patterns which would really in result
on having those impulsive reaction and perception towards slots gaming.I cant really deny that it could really give out that boost of emotion even just on simply spinning.
Gambling problem is something that wont precisely be blamed off on a single game in the market but rather in overall i should say.

I think yes. As for colorful pictures and music, in fact, after the 100th spin (and for some even earlier), they only cause irritation. For example, I turn off the music immediately. Naturally, the attraction pattern does not work in one game. All games are made in such a way as to create the impression that the win is close. This is how the entire industry works.
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