so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
Thanks for clarifying. I have a noob question: If I want to host the rigs on laptops, would I just connect: BJ->Laptop or BJ->Rpi->Laptop Thanks what do you mean "host the rigs on laptops"? you mean solo mine? BJ's come with a Raspi installed so you can just plug that into your router and point at pool. if you want to solo mine you'll have to install stratum with bitcoind on a server and point the BJ at it. |
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so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
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so just to clarify everyone's strategy.
if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ. then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules. you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.
a cheap 5x power increase. extraordinary.
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It ain't it until people/govs start dumping US treasuries.
Will it default? that's a good question. look here at the 3 mo T-Bill which is a cash-like equivalent. that's a 2000% increase in interest rate off the bottom:  |
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only 5 days in Bitcoin history where the price was higher than now.
Gold down. Bitcoin UP.
I can see more days at least twice as more. Dont use the gox price. lol, maybe we should use BTCChina. go China go! Against all odds, we are actually the only country(maybe also Russia but I am not sure) in the world where you can trade bitcoins online without subjecting yourself to the whim of the banks....for the moment. we love you guys. |
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I missed the previous posts. Where is the tapeout?
there is none. |
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HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.This will be confirmed shortly by the Official HashFast account. i love you HashFast  |
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only 5 days in Bitcoin history where the price was higher than now.
Gold down. Bitcoin UP.
I can see more days at least twice as more. Dont use the gox price. lol, maybe we should use BTCChina. go China go! |
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I notice you didn't try to deny my accusations. Ciao, baby! I didn't consider you worth responding to quite frankly but since you insist. No one does a formal endorsement for anybody unless they get paid and I'm no exception. The key thing though is that whole arrangement occurred days after I plunked down a check for 4TH. |
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which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270384.msg2975145#msg2975145hmm I hadn't seen that post before, it's quite interesting: Let's use those two numbers as bounds for the size of the silicon under the lid. If the die(s) take up just 30x30mm of the space under the lid, then:
30x30mm = 900mm^2
100 GHash / 900 mm^2 = 0.11 GHash/mm^2
Or if the die takes up a bit more of the space under the lid,
36x36mm = 1296mm^2
100 GHash / 1296mm^2 = 0.077 GHash/mm^2
HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
Hashing per square mm:
18x18mm = 324mm^2
400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2
What's interesting is that compare this to cointerra's chip specifications which give (minimum of) 504 Gh in 300 mm^2 which is 1.68 Ghash/mm^2 which is even more efficient than the HashFast chip. Will except that Cointerra hasn't even taped out yet, seems to be late at doing so, and most importantly seems to have disappeared. |
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KNC are shit hot Engineers (but engineers should not run companies) , there reputation as a company is what people will remember, how they treated their customers is what people will remember.
the 2 principals of KNC are not engineers. they are businessmen. which is why i went with HF. Simon is a brilliant engineer along with his team of at least 4 asic engineers and now more. i've lost track of the actual number. Your hijacking this thread to tout hashfast is terrible and you should be ashamed. That said, but, if you were to suggest to someone who knows nothing about hashfast what the best hashfast miner to put money in RIGHT NOW, what would you suggest? At what website? And in the future? Half-Fast is so shit, that cypherdouche has to troll in a competitors thread. He's a zero member, not a hero by any stretch. Meanwhile KnC and their shills are taking the high road in the battle between manufacturers. While I am not happy that my KnC 1-500 miner is gimpy because of a flamed out board, I still have gear at my disposal. I am in the minority, but I am proof that KnC makes gear. The parts that work, work like a mofo, for me. Half-Fast has nothing that makes hashes. Mierda. Then, Half-fast pulls a BFL and hires some nobody cocksucker to denegrate anyone that isn't Half-Fast. If they act like BFL in an internet forum (where there are only ideas floating about), would anyone wager that they will not do the same with people's money? I can readily understand if someone slaps down a good deal of money on miners after doing research, that the purchase will have imbued loyalty, deserved or otherwise. It validates the buyer's choice. Doesn't make him an employee. Cypherdouche started a thread "Half-Fast Endorsement" - it resides 6 pages back - and in one of the very first posts in that thread, cypherdouche admits that he is acting as a mercenary, endorsing Half-Fast only because he is getting paid. He stated that he wouldn't have endorsed them without compensation. Cypherdouche then comes to this thread, pretending to be a network protector hero concern troll. In fact, he acts more like a predator... trying to take out a perceived weak KnC and hoping to lure bitcoin kiddies into his white Half-Fast van. He is just another wannabe Inaba, except with no gear at all to show for the douche-nicity. dude, you have anger issues. you're going to blow an aneurysm if you're not careful. |
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After you admitting that HashFast screwed you and also their numerous customers by an activated MPP i just realized why are you so angry and why did you went full retard like Inaba. If you have that problem i imagine a lot of their customers didn't think through very well of that MPP and blindly ordered. Let's see how this works our for everyone.
i never said they screwed me. in fact, i think the MPP is incredibly generous. and who said i'm angry? i'm happy as hell that it appears HF is going to come out on top of these Asic Wars, imho. it's just that logistically, i have to think about how i can handle all this extra FREE capacity. IT'S NOT A BAD THING. which is why i posted my multiple of 3 strategy and personal conversion from BJ's to Sierra's all done with OEM parts. it turns out this is going to be incredibly simple if you read carefully what i wrote. the only ones that are going to get screwed are HF competitors b/c HF can afford to do the MPP (chips only) b/c of their smaller, more efficient chip design: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270384.msg2975145#msg2975145 |
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only 5 days in Bitcoin history where the price was higher than now.
Gold down. Bitcoin UP.
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Could you please take this discussion between you two through PM ?
I dont see the reason to fill almost 2 pages with a no end discussion and how that could be interesting for someone that enters the thread looking for news/updates about HF
if you look closely, this started with me posting a very useful and helpful post about how i was approaching my own configuration process in multiples of 3 and how multiple Sierra's can be driven by one Raspi so you guys can benefit from my insider knowledge. then crumbs comes in and attacks me just like everyone else. what am i supposed to do? |
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Claiming "I want to handle everything in increments of 3 [or some such]" is inconsistent with trying to sell more than one, and suddenly willing to make space for a whole server room (original 9 + the truckload of miner protection gear) You don't have room for a bit moar?  the problem with your brain is that it's static. like mud. you fail to consider that ppl can change or figure out solutions to a problems as they go along. i decided to go with being Order #1, maximize the mining while the going is good and deal with the truckload later. you're right in that i'll probably have to find a solution to that later. but it's a good problem to have. how about that bet, Mr. Never Mined a BTC in My Life? Lordy, you've talked about my yeller button, you offered to prove that you have 9 pre-orders, you accused me of not being a miner. You've talked about so many ugly things. The only thing you didn't address is the lie you've been caught in. Though i like where you're going with this. Level up, practice makes perfect still confused. what lie are you talking about? Can i get you to commit to a single story? Why did you go through all the mutually-contradictory rationalizations before ending up with "people can change their minds"? Tell me one last time why you wanted to unload a bunch of pre-orders from a company you were shilling for representing at the time? ? how many times do i need to say it? b/c of space and electrical capacity considerations. when i first ordered BJ's, 4 TH/s was supposed to come in 4 machines. b/c they changed their plans, it went to 10 machines. then, thru their own generosity, the MPP is going to take it to 50 machines. i have a small room for these. 50 machines seemed untenable and b/c i ordered first, i could sell my pre-orders for an immediate profit; still can. but the intent was never to sell them, it was to mine. the repackaging of these into Sierra's solves the entire issue for now. period. still want to bet 1000 BTC? |
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Claiming "I want to handle everything in increments of 3 [or some such]" is inconsistent with trying to sell more than one, and suddenly willing to make space for a whole server room (original 9 + the truckload of miner protection gear) You don't have room for a bit moar? the problem with your brain is that it's static. like mud. you fail to consider that ppl can change or figure out solutions to a problems as they go along. i decided to go with being Order #1, maximize the mining while the going is good and deal with the truckload later. you're right in that i'll probably have to find a solution to that later. but it's a good problem to have. how about that bet, Mr. Never Mined a BTC in My Life? Lordy, you've talked about my yeller button, you offered to prove that you have 9 pre-orders, you accused me of not being a miner. You've talked about so many ugly things. The only thing you didn't address is the lie you've been caught in. Though i like where you're going with this. Level up, practice makes perfect still confused. what lie are you talking about? |
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KNC are shit hot Engineers (but engineers should not run companies) , there reputation as a company is what people will remember, how they treated their customers is what people will remember.
the 2 principals of KNC are not engineers. they are businessmen. which is why i went with HF. Simon is a brilliant engineer along with his team of at least 4 asic engineers and now more. i've lost track of the actual number. Your hijacking this thread to tout hashfast is terrible and you should be ashamed. That said, but, if you were to suggest to someone who knows nothing about hashfast what the best hashfast miner to put money in RIGHT NOW, what would you suggest? At what website? And in the future? i feel just as ashamed and terrible as all the KNC Warriors  i thought i had left this thread? but since you asked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg3332044#msg3332044 |
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Claiming "I want to handle everything in increments of 3 [or some such]" is inconsistent with trying to sell more than one, and suddenly willing to make space for a whole server room (original 9 + the truckload of miner protection gear) You don't have room for a bit moar? the problem with your brain is that it's static. like mud. you fail to consider that ppl can change or figure out solutions to a problems as they go along. i decided to go with being Order #1, maximize the mining while the going is good and deal with the truckload later. you're right in that i'll probably have to find a solution to that later. but it's a good problem to have. how about that bet, Mr. Never Mined a BTC in My Life? |
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