People are seriously going to trade based on this?

He's an even better huckster than I first thought if this idea has taken hold. I think he's rather more interested in the attention it got and the money he already got than it bearing any relation to realistic outcomes.

For many first world countries it's the ever spiralling price of housing that puts the most pressure on people. It's slowly strangling society. Because of the cost of shelter people can't afford to own, move, rent in many a place or consider starting or running a family.

If that one necessity is effectively beyond reach for normal people then every other aspect of their life is crippled.

It's appalling how it's been permitted to get to this stage, but it is no doubt planned as part of the inevitable march towards the return of serfdom. The middle class is slowly fading away.

My guess would be that this is matched betting of some sort which is indeed tax free and fully legit.

I know a few people who've done it. It was very time consuming but was dependable. I thought the betting companies were less inclined to foster it these days but there must be loopholes lurking still which is what this poster may be offering.

I could be totally wrong of course.

Because it's fun.

It's fun to imagine and it's fun to revisit to see who was eerily right and who was laughably wrong.

I particularly enjoy being proven miserably wrong. I think my prediction in 2015 for 2017's high was $263.43 as I always like to under promise and over deliver.

He's emphasized a few times that his prediction hinges on Bitcoin radically devaluing the USD which is a ridiculous idea in two and a bit years. People have been predicting its demise forever. It still looks pretty perky to me.

$250,000 by 2022 feels radical but just about conceivable. I certainly wouldn't bank on it but equally I wouldn't be totally astounded if it did occur.

If we think about 80s internet the only thing that survived until then was the underlying architecture in a much modified form. It's assuming that Bitcoin will be the be all and end all when in reality there's so much shit flying around that it's hard to tell.

It's still the prime candidate by a country mile but it's far from being totally in the bag.

If, say, Coinbase lost everything in a hack on their side they do claim to be insured for that. I really, really would not want to see that insurance put to the test though.

There are some big ass OTC operations out there like Genesis Trading, Cumberland Mining and others. Despite this we never, ever hear anything about them here.

There must be people who've bought and sold through them on here so I would like to know what the experience was like. I'd vastly prefer using one to an exchange but there's little information on what the user experience is like.

How personal was it? How did you verify addresses to send to? Did they have buyers or sellers reading and waiting to meet your offer or did you have to register yours and wait? How long did the whole thing take from start to finish?

Enlighten us please.

My ludicrous speculation is the winter of 2020 after the halving for the next official bull run. I reckon the price will brush $70-90,000 and then fall back to $20,000 ish.

However it's easy to forget the ever dwindling inflation. By that date only 10% or so of coins will be left to mine and there'll be well over a century left to mine them. Perhaps our epic predictions will be blown out of the water because of that.

They had more of a purpose back in the day when they launched in 2014. There was no such thing as a hardware wallet back then so I can see why some people would've preferred their vault thing rather than make their own paper wallet.

They're going to need to add something along the lines of fiat interfaces to remain relevant from now on otherwise there's no real reason for them to exist any more.

Then you're up shit creek.

Very few wallets control your coins these days, and any that do should be avoided completely.

As for places like Coinbase and Xapo you can sugarcoat it all you want, but no matter what the arrangement some other bastard has full control over your money and are permitting you access to it.

Of course places that well known and capitalised are not going to do a runner but there's no predicting what the future holds. If the American government can confiscate everyone's gold, which would've been a fully manual process all those years ago, imagine how much easier it would be with millions of people all herded into a couple of services.

I don't give a shit how secure their storage is, there's a good chance you'll be caught up in their KYC/AML or unresponsive support hell. That's a far greater risk than them being bombed.

I've also gone through phases of their SMS messages going missing and the app getting arsey. I don't need ball ache like that in my life when we have options to control our own keys.

Now their card has gone I have no use for Xapo. I'm not quite sure what their purpose is and how they make money and them throwing in the towel is yet another risk.

Ain't no one who can tell you shit. As far as I'm concerned many of these coins are still stunningly overpriced and people are still in denial about it, but my opinion doesn't matter.

Instead of pouring in you can just buy a set amount at a set time over a period of weeks and months. That may well smooth out your average buy in. It depends on your time frame.

And why the fuck would you pay the slightest attention to what a youtube or telegram channel tells you? They're almost exclusively populated by clueless penises.

The fork thing still fascinates me with these. I've seen many a potential buyer refusing to include their value in any bids as if the seller will be delighted to throw money away to pander to their dislikes.

And I know they may well dwindle to nothing. Again, future speculation is not the seller's problem.

If it were me I'd peel this bitch, but it's a good job I don't have a great deal of Casascius products for the sake of their survival.

Livecoinwatch is great. That's my fave.

Coingecko has interesting info that can't be found elsewhere. It would be nice to see CMC's dominance definitively taken out. Its current position doesn't really help anyone or anything.

No one cares. I'm your average Islam would already be involved.

And there'll be another cleric along in a few minutes bellowing 'Haram'.

As ever the Islamic world is purposefully crippling itself with its fondness for people in the sky.

Uh huh.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nem/comments/8aaueg/cardanos_road_map_vs_nem/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8c8hc7/destinia_claim_they_accept_bitcoin_for_flights/

According to that Destinia Bitcoin options are a lottery. You won't find out whether a flight is payable in BTC until you actually try to.

I only shout about Russia if I'm paid for it and Russia pays better anyway.

Bitcoin the entity, not the unit.