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8181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 06:57:31 AM
Buy BSHORT, wait till bitcoin price goes down, then sell BSHORT for higher price.
Lets say everyone buys bitcoin short and market goes down.

Now everyone wants to sell.

Who will buy at higher price if bitcoin goes down and everyone is selling?

though their plan for this coin is not that complicated but there's no assurance about the value of this coin. you'll never know when will you sell your coins and if it will ever come. and yes, in case bitcoin goes down, who will gonna buy your bshort at higher price if people are not believing the future of your coin? so i would say, this will not gonna last long here. unless, the dev has very solid proof that this concept will work.

I takes time for traders to get used to BSHORT. The best proof will be the price history. You can buy and SELL tokens on our site untill we see sufficient liquidity on exchanges.

Why do you only respond to the real people in this thread and not the bump bot service you employed?

More importantly, why did you buy a bump bot service? Its incredibly obvious what's going on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114958

All these accounts will soon be banned for coordinated spamming.
8182  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bump Bot Ring & Project Employers: 23 accounts (and counting) exposed on: February 27, 2019, 05:36:43 PM
Nice! Thanks Loyce. I will do some more examination in the morning (its still night time here).

Seems like there could be 30 or 40 accounts all connected to the same service. Wonder if its all the same puppeteer.
8183  Other / Meta / Re: What to do about Bump Bots on: February 27, 2019, 03:58:40 PM
Here's a bump bot ring I just documented pretty thoroughly because they were pissing me off:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114958

Please feel free to do your reporting/tagging/banning as you see fit.
8184  Economy / Scam Accusations / Bump Bot Ring & Project Employers: 23 accounts (and counting) exposed on: February 27, 2019, 03:53:00 PM
(note: not entirely sure if this should be in Meta or here)

While arguing about the legitimacy of a "Bitcoin Short" token project (spoiler: its almost certainly not), I notice the thread is now being bumped by the same 22 accounts used to bump the same 8 projects, ad nauseum. The ring goes all the way back to November. During one particular thread, some of them got caught and red tagged by DarkStar_, so I am listing the ones who haven't been red tagged here.

zarev21
FDimarin
baxte90
seroja
kocheg
as1027
GamingSpain
kader214
Shults
Jer2011
jfsglady
kam1l
lysergicblau
happygeese
tangtin
dangnhuvinh
dilin2016
buser
JustineHenssen1990
winny_
wqewww
vikas1980
pankajkumar1

edit - discovered & added later:

amodini
click1297
bharathirajan10
bimo25
Alaacrd
boiudfg
leo909

Threads being bumped (titles shortened for brevity):

🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short.
🎲EOSBet.io
CoinMakers by ICO Brothers
🎲🎲🎲 GG World Lottery ICO
[ANN][AIRDROP][ICO] FORTFC
🔥[ANN] Ura.Market
🔥[ANN][ICO] GameLife
🔥[ANN][ICO] TheFund.io

A lot of these are hacked accounts from 2011-2014, maybe sold by the OG forum hacker. I think they have one earned Merit between them, and 11 total... Also, 1 of these didn't bump the Bitcoin Short thread but I caught them by association, which leads me to believe there's many more out there, probably all owned by the same individual. Just asking mindless questions and then answering their own questions. What a weird way to "make a living," if you can call it that.

Here is my sweet association matrix for your reference, though in hindsight I should have made the rows columns and vice versa. I'm no LoyceV, after all...



And what is to be said for projects that employ such services? Likely scams or just employing cheesy marketing tactics?

Feel free to add more members to the ring here if you find them.

Question for the mods: does this kind of behavior constitute a ban? It would be mighty easy to nuke the brunt of them if so. Thanks!
8185  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Xeonbit - fake team - JAV porn star is a team member??? on: February 27, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
This is hilarious. Just found this thread when researching a bump bot team. Using an image of Gordon Gekko as a team member, and a porn star?? Classy and grade-A stuff.

User ghdeveloper was commenting in the thread of a project I am 95% certain is a scam: Bitcoin Short.

Just took a look at the Xeonbit website and they have changed their team images. Still bizarre that they would use fake pictures in the first place.
8186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [JPM] JPM Coin on: February 27, 2019, 01:50:41 PM
This ANN is going to be a classic in bitcointalk.

When the CEO announced that bitcoin is a scam then launched their own coin  Grin
It's like saying that "JPM is in crypto for the technology, not the money". Har har har!  Grin Grin Grin

Salute to OP!  Cool

True b. Jamie D is a real early adopter. He don't care about the benjamins, its all about reimpowering the little guy. He's just like Roger Ver! We all know what a humble, down-to-earth guy he turned out to be...
8187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: February 27, 2019, 11:05:45 AM
Hello,

can someone help me varifiy if BCH was claimed (and spend) for this btc adress?
I talk about fork on 31. aug 2017

13dsx9MWoNDtPqupziDZ4QZDf8pRzP81eA

Kind regards

https://explorer.bitcoin.com/bch/address/13dsx9MWoNDtPqupziDZ4QZDf8pRzP81eA

Thanks.. so if you see any activity after 31.07.2017, that means coins were claimed?

Is there any tool, that i could see where the coins are? for example if they are on binance ?
could I track somehow if they are on any exchange ?

Regards

Sure, you can use the block explorer in the link above to follow where the coins went. However, its a bit tricky because you have to follow all the different expenditures and will have to know what the Binance BCH address is. As far as I know there's no publicly available utility that will link to BCH addresses together for you, so it requires manual investigation.
8188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][SGOLD] SpaceGold - Bringing Physical Gold from Space on: February 27, 2019, 09:54:40 AM
I notice you edited every single one of your messages to claim that the negative trust I gave you was "bogus." It certainly was not. I told you about the plagiarism and pointed out the original sources of your white paper material. You denied it. Thus, your negative trust was earned.

Quoted for posterity:

Gold Streaming From Space

Each SGOLD token costs around $0.50 and promises 240 milligrams of gold over 240 months after production starts, requiring a payment of 25% of the gold value at time of delivery.  So, each SGOLD is purchased at $0.50 and delivers $11.00 worth of gold after paying $2.75 (25% of $11) once gold is in hand.  That $2.75 can come from the gold stream itself, it can be paid in cash, or you can redeem additional SGOLD at $0.50 today and redeem them at $11.00 for this purpose.

240 months after production starts? So that's 20 years after the first gold has been mined from space by a company that you are invested in! You expect people to be invested in your company for a bare minimum of 21 years! Assuming it only takes a year to get a satellite your company has invested in to get to an asteroid and successfully find gold... It could take much, much longer.

Physical gold is returned to Earth on a regular basis from space.

As I said earlier, this is not true. It's never happened. Gold particles may have been found in an asteroid sample, but you don't produce evidence of this. Your claim is thus baseless.

Companies that qualify to support SpaceGold’s streaming contracts are;

  • 1. Deep Space Industries, Inc.
    2. Planetary Resources, Inc.
    3. Moon Express
    4. iSpace Asteroid Mining Corporation
    5. Shackleton Energy Company
    6. Kleos Space S.A.
    7. TransAstra Corporation
    8. SpaceFab.US
    9. National Aeronautics and Space Administration
    10. MokAerospace (Boeing, Rocketdyne & SpaceX)

But you currently have no contracts in place with these companies, correct?

The Global Space Mining Market is expected to be returning 25 tonnes of gold to Earth each year by 2025 which amounts to 1% of all gold mined at that time which supports 2.083 billion SpaceGold tokens created and on offer today.

Again, this is highly speculative. Its zero tons at the moment.

SpaceGold are asset backed tokens that pay out commodities that use smart contract features to implement sophisticated functionality.

Not backed by an asset. Its an investment in a project which may yield zero assets, thus the tokens are not backed by anything except expectations.

I have developed a token called spacegold that is backed by notional production of gold in space and uses Leontieff matrices to make a rational method to organise human affairs.

This solves the problems outlined by Ken Arrow and because we’re dealing with notional production, we are free of the constraints of traditional gold, bitcoins and fiat.

So fix the world buy spacegold!

 Roll Eyes

Pheeewww buddy. This was an awful sales pitch. I feel creeped out after reading it. There are so many problems with your plan. Here's the biggest ones:

1. You expect to form partnerships/contracts with "space gold" mining companies.
2. You are certain the ones you do form contracts with will be successful.
3. Even if they are, you expect your investors to wait for over 20 years to redeem their tokens for real gold.
4. You assume the Ethereum platform will still be around in 20+ years and not replaced by better technology.
5. You didn't take the time to write your own white paper -- without investing the time it takes to create your own white paper, how do you honestly expect investors to be patient for 20 years while waiting for your project to bear fruit?

There's just far too many contingencies to make this a viable plan. Why wouldn't investors just invest in the asteroid mining companies directly?
8189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][SGOLD] SpaceGold - Bringing Physical Gold from Space on: February 27, 2019, 09:19:56 AM
NOTE: Please accept our apology for a low trust score.  It is the result of a bogus trust report from trusted members we have not done business with at all.

Please know that we were approached by a number of people who have very high trust scores and said they could post for us on this forum and that would help us going forward.  They wanted money for this and control.  The control aspect more than the money concerned us.  So, we declined their offer.  We began posting as a new entity with zero score.

As a result, we have been attacked by trusted parties in retribution apparently to have us revisit our earlier decision, since we have been getting messages from those trusted parties to 'fix the problem' that has emerged.

Nope. Not "as a result." You were "attacked by trusted parties" because you denied having a plagiarized white paper. You could have copped to what happened instead of claiming I was engaging in "logical fallacies." Its highly unlikely that anybody who approached you has an account with the standing of mine. I just look through ICO announcements, analyze their white papers and find inconsistencies. If your claim has evidence that I am somehow linked to these other accounts who offered to help promote your project, list them here and let the public do research and come to conclusions on their own.

Warning: white paper contains several instances of plagiarism:

From the white paper:

Quote
Blockchain is an irrefutably resourceful invention that is bringing about a revolution in the global business market. Its evolution has brought with it a greater good, not only for individual users but for businesses as well.

Original source:

Quote
Blockchain is an irrefutably resourceful invention which is practically bringing about a revolution in the global business market. Its evolution has brought with it a greater good, not only for businesses but for its beneficiaries as well.

From the white paper:

Quote
Blockchain technology offers quite a number of merits over a traditional database in the areas of immutability, lower costs, transparency, accountability, security and many more.

Original source:

Quote
Blockchain technology offers quite a number of merits over a traditional database in the areas of immutability, lower costs, transparency, accountability, security and many more.

These are but 2 of many.

OP please revise your white paper and credit your sources or better yet, come up with your own words, or I will tag your account as promoting plagiarism.


Thanks for this.  Its the first time I've seen it.  There are similarities.  I will have this reviewed and give references where appropriate.  

Its not just "similarities", its word-for-word copy/pasting. Thanks for not making me have to post a formal Scam Accusation against you, which I was about to do until I read this message. I reserve the right to do this in the future because some of your claims about gold already being brought back from space (for the purposes of being sold) are simply untrue. If my claim is incorrect, please post some evidence that refutes it.

What you're proposing is an extremely risky, theoretical and long-term investment model. This is not suitable for cryptocurrency.
8190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 27, 2019, 08:56:30 AM


1. No team members


Will be published. Exchanges doublecheck team members in the process of token listing anyway.


2. No actual data provided about how this token will achieve its goal.


Please read Bitcoin Short prospectus on our site.

I did read it. You provide no solid evidence of anything that would possibly make your token work as described. You say its backed by this or that but don't provide any evidence of such. It's all based in faith that you won't screw over your customers, which is provided by your reputation, of which, without a publicly disclosed team and holdings, you have none.
8191  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: February 27, 2019, 03:06:33 AM
This one is classic, joined Security bounties by theymos.

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: haamim
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2553424
Your telegram username: @haamim001

Best bounty ever!
I didn't expect someone would post something like that. Good catch! It seems that the post was removed. Of course, being off-topic (?) But it's a bounty? Lol.

That's simply awful. Reminds me of a recent scenario where a bounty manager locked his bounty thread because of a pretty compelling Scam Accusation against the project, then bounty hunters started posting their reports in the Scam Accusation thread! They have to be the least cognizant bunch of forum users there is.
8192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 27, 2019, 02:14:53 AM
I have doubt it is actually associated with Chancellor Bennett of Decentra Capital. You would think he would be promoting this project on his social media, which he has not.


Hello, we have nothing to do with Chancellor Bennett. He might be working in some other Decentra Capital. Please provide more information about this company, that has the same name, we could not find it. We never claimed that we are from US.

You couldn't find it? All you have to do is type "Decentra Capital" into Google and his LinkedIn is the first thing that comes up.

There's absolutely no reason to trust you.

You never addressed these points. Your project has:

1. No team members
2. No actual data provided about how this token will achieve its goal. You can't make claims about having holdings that will back up this project without providing them. You promised you would put them on the website, they're not there.

In short this project is extremely shady and I do not believe you are capable of carrying out your stated goal.
8193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 26, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
I wanted to buy Bitcoin to make profit. But now it’s needed to use technical analysis to forecast the price. But I’m not good at it! So I can’t even suppose when I should buy Bitcoin Short.

You can't buy it because it doesn't exist. The only thing that could possibly happen is you lose your Ethereum. Anybody who continues to bump this scam with idiotic questions will be reported for thread bumping/spam. In all likelihood your account will be banned.
8194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 26, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
SCAM: UNVETTED METAMASK ACCESS

If you connect to this project's homepage via MetaMask they will probably just empty your wallet contents.


DO NOT connect to metamask through this project!
8195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 26, 2019, 08:34:28 AM
This is a scam project you are bumping. You could be tagged for helping to support a scam, though I doubt you'll care since your accounts are of so little value. Your opinion is completely disregarded.
8196  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BiteBTC is a scam exchange on: February 26, 2019, 04:41:44 AM
This is the email I just got from them. Wow wtf

https://i.imgur.com/czyOcMI.png

That's pretty awful. There's no good reason they have for doing this. Pretty pathetic on their part. Of course don't pay it. I sent you a Pity Merit to help ease the burn.
8197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-SALE][ICO] Petro $PTR - Oil backed crypto currency launched by Venezuela on: February 26, 2019, 04:33:47 AM
Petro is not a token any more -- it might not be anything anymore. There's no verifiable proof that it even exists. Maduro has more pressing matters to attend to at the moment.
8198  Economy / Reputation / Re: Suspicious loan to 2double0 from hacker1001101001 (marcotheminer involved) on: February 25, 2019, 01:54:36 PM
If it was discussion via Telegram, surely you can forward the messages so that an outside source can ensure the screenshots weren't doctored?
Yes, I can forward some messages confirming I chatted with 2double0 only.

@Avirunes please let me know your telegram ID, so that I could forward you the message and you could confirm it with my screenshots.

Going forward I recommend to you conducting all forum member loan-associated business on the forum. As you might have figured out by now, it would have been much more transparent had you performed the address verification bit in the loan thread where it was available for public inspection.
8199  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking $50 Loan in BTC - Repay $75 in 1 Week on: February 25, 2019, 12:57:30 PM
Complete scammer. His first post was for a no collateral loan. That's a big no-no. Reputation loans are just fine, and this guy doesn't have any. He has even less now. If he was seriously interested in building a reputation in this forum, I would say

8200  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-02-24]Bitcoin TPS and Usage Skyrockets, Nears Record High 3.87 on: February 25, 2019, 11:19:36 AM
Also not to mention that more and more services are batching their transactions, so suddenly 20 transactions becomes 1. So although the absolute number is currently still a bit below its ATH, in reality once you factor in LN, other off-chain transaction and batching, in reality it would be much higher.


I have a question: does someone generate these images before hand and then put a caption in the text bubble?
I've never understood these images, and I've never understood why they would use them. If they are honestly trying to be a serious news source, why attach meaningless and tacky cartoons to every story? It's completely unprofessional.


I think the CoinTelegraph images are usually pretty cool, and it probably costs them a decent bit to be made (though I have no actual idea). I have a feeling that's what coinidol is emulating. But I agree, they're a bit disconcerting and take away from the overall seriousness of their enterprise.
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