I can say that this system really help the snce the spammers will never gets merit since their comments and reply are nonsense and won't be helpful with other users in this forum.
And you will also not receive any merits if you follow these spammers that you talk about because you are simply acting like one of them. Also do improve your English. Merit system have solved the problem of post flooding intended only to rank up.
that's true, at least the work of the forum staff has become less, which used to be a lot of forum members who often do what they call farming activity in order to level up on time, now they only have to deal with new members who always create new topics that are already dozens of times discussed on the forum and think will be given merit and level up easily. They should be able to do much better. We are all required to make things unique and also useful for many people. This is much more important because we will understand Bitcoin much more quickly and easily, merit has improved the quality of forums and this is very good for the development of this forum, now we can see a significant change like the loss of the scammers. This change has indirectly increased the confidence of various sources of information, the Forum is also increasing in popularity because it can provide confidence in the majority of developments around the digital currency. Uniqueness of the topics will come to a repetitiveness. More topics will be unique by season and by the trending news which is happening in the crypto. Discussions will be focused on that. Hope there will be a FAQ at the home page of the forum for newbies and investors to looked more organized. How is that even related to this discussion? Discussing about merit should not stopped or moved to a new board like I have suggested. No use of rehashing the same old arguments over and over again just to increase post counts. Yes probably it may help the forum. But not too sure about that. Always there are some limitations in the every activity. It is too associated with merit system. But there are very good moderators in the forum they will definitely counter it . Don't worry about it.
Moderators of this forum are having their hands full with the shitposters being reported. These lowlifes simply make new accounts and farm them until they cant rank up any more or get caught. |
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Please i am innocent,admin please remove my negatives  You've been here long enough to know admins do not remove ratings. I feel like the English has gotten way worse but maybe that's just me. Maybe he never ventured out of the collectible section Can you send BTC from any address that you posted? OKcoin.cn does not active anymore ,so i am unable to send coins from those wallets listed on my thread. Exchanges does not do like this.I am here long enough to know currency exchange section not other sections. If you cannot sign a message from any older addresses here which have been associated with trades or exchanges in the past, nobody will help you to get you negative trust removed. Signing a message is the only way to prove that you are still the true owner of the account. Complaining wont help because the burden of proof is on you - you need to provide the evidence. Obviously you cant sign messages from exchange address. But then there is nothing that can be done about it. |
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Not only merit is required to rank up, we need activities to there's so many thread's about ranking up you may read them all, but for now the merit system is the hardest thing to rank up. There is a required merit and activities to rank up.
LOL for shitposters activity it not hard to achieve. If someone cannot even post properly to achieve activity then they dont deserve a space in this forum. But Merit is what juniors should be concerned about. Those who blatantly shitpost would never rank up if they dont gather enough merits and making new threads in meta about it will only worsen the situation. Im just a newbie with less experience and knowledge bout this. I've read that merits is what makes your rank up. Is that correct or did I just misread it? 😂 Thank you  Yes you are correct, this merit is like an extra activity for you to rank up and earning some is so difficult, so if you are not going to earn some then you are going to be stuck in your rank, so that is why you are going to post some quality post in this forum for the others to give you merit if they find out that your post is worth of a merit. Idiots making up idiotic assumptions. Merit is different from activity. Learn about the merit system first. |
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I thought for a moment that plagiarism was going to take over from merits, but merit seems to have fought back. Plagiarized content is taken down once reported to mods. They also ban those shitposters. Copy-pasting is just pathetic. Only lowlife spammers can do that and not build their own content. Maybe we should try to revive discussions about activity. That could be considered to be unfair, as it is fairly easy for a competent poster to knock out 14 decent posts in an hour or so. Discussions about activity? How does that end up on this topic? I know there used to be some complaining threads like "Why is my activity not increasing" before merit was introduced - are you referring to those? Activity is fairly easier to achieve for shitposters but not merits. Which is why threads on merit became so rampant and not activity. That is if he hasn't worn out his keyboard. I keep dropping my "a" characters, and constant editing slows one down. The "u" on my keyboard also does not work at times. Does that make me a shitposter too?  |
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 Look I have been on here long enough to know how certain things work. I may not be the best writer, but after looking around, the members with the most merits aren't that great either, I mean not in the least, neither do they provide great content or insight. So how did they get all those merits with sub-par content? The senior members say post good content and you will get merits. Hog wash!! It is almost impossible to earn merits on here... Why??? Hope this not a good ole boy's system.... (That's why I love Steemit)!! Another question??? Who the heck determines what good content is. I provide a lot of insight and I have written some good post here but I never get a merit. My question is why is it so hard to earn merits on bitcointalk.org. Sounds pretty counter-intuitive to me... Please help someone!!  You spammed this same post in three posts. You need to learn the rules. You will gradually get merits from merit sources. They will consider whether your posts are meritable or not. They are not marked but they are here watching most people and whom to merit to. Keep posting quality content and dont beg for merits or complain about merits. One good suggestion for you - remove your paid signature and if needed keep a personal signature. The merit sorces being elder people here dont like newbies coming to the forum with the idea of spamming(does not apply to everyone) the forum to get paid from bounties and all. You posts will be catching their eye if you dont wear paid signatures - as per DannyHamilton. Yes its counter productive for those who want to rank up making shitposts but productive for those who are making quality posts to this forum. |
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Ideally, managers that accept negative trust members should receive negative trust themselves. :/
And for what charges? Trusting the not trusted? Trust is too vague for that. For these charges - Giving potential scammers/account traders/alt account ring enjoy the privilages of being in this forum (which includes campaigns) And how about managers with negative trust managing bounty?
What about them? If some company hires such a manager then its a red mark for that company. Not that they would care much if they are not interested in the affairs of this forum. I think that no manager want to accept participants with negative trust. Maybe that they forgot to include it in their bounty rule.
I assume that they are just not bothered about trust ratings. Most campaigns are up to advertising only. They want more people to know about their product/service/project so they don't pay much attention to an account's reputation. Like I said above the company might not be interested in the forum affairs and how trust works. They would be interested in promoting their project. However a DT-red trusted member is likely an alt account/sold account/loan defaulter or simply a scammer. If they promote a project then its going to get raised eyebrows from the public who view their posts.
Ideally DT-marked red trust members should not be allowed to participate. However managers should work on understanding which rating is BS and which one is valid. |
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I do not have enough experience with the trust system here but it is not good to allow members with negative trust (especially those with 2 or above) to participate in these campaigns. I understand the one negative trust might be possible due to some misunderstanding or revenge being taken but if someone has multiple negative trusts, the profile is suspicious. Only a campaign manager can tell the exact reason for such members being allowed to participate. One reason I can think of is that they are not getting enough participants with neutral trust because of multiple campaigns running.
You seriously need to learn and read more about the trust system before making a comment like this. Members with negative trust from DefaultTrust will show up in case your trust list in unedited from the time you signed up on the forum. Any other member whom you add to this trust list - their trust rating will show up in "Trusted Feedback" as well. What we are talking about here are the trust ratings from DT1 and DT2 (mainly). All other BS retaliatory feedbacks are generally not for DT and hence ignored. There is nothing wrong in ignoring those feedbacks from Neutral Trust members or those whom the manager does not have in his/her trust list. But ignoring DT trust ratings (except a few DT members) is not acceptable for the manager. |
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Im just a newbie with less experience and knowledge bout this. I've read that merits is what makes your rank up. Is that correct or did I just misread it? 😂 Thank you The older system of the forum ranks was based on activity and posts. Now the merit system is added to it. To reach a certain rank the member must reach that much activity and that much stipulated merit if not more. If you dont reach both (or gain in that sense) then forget about ranking up and be happy with your current rank.
@everyone else who is reading this - The OP's post is the reason why I proposed this suggestion - which did not gain much attention. Lets Make a new board/section for "Merit Discussion" |
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I see so many of the users of the forum who are having negative trusts getting accepted into bounty campaigns! Most of the campaigns do not allow users with negative trust to enroll in their campaign but there are some which do not follow this rule. Shouldn't the users with negative trusts be not allowed to set up signatures of any kind from the forum's end itself ? Those managers who dont follow the rule of "Receive Negative trust from DT1 or 2 will get you kicked from campaign" are not worthy or becoming managers in the first place and no company should hire then to manage their campaign. To ensure that trust actually works and means something, shouldn't the campaigns which accept participants of negative trust be not allowed on this forum? A lot of things should not be allowed in this forum. There are flaws in the system. But you will have to accept them and move on. Generally speaking people will receive negative trust if they are found cheating signature/bounty campaigns with alt accounts and for many other reasons like loan default and potential scamming. However if the manager does not care about these scumbags enrolling in the campaign then they are shitmanagers enrolling shitposters and vomitposters. |
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How do the signature bounties affect to the merits? I had participated a signature bounty and during that time I did not receive at least one merit. Honestly, during that time, I had to post more posts (to meet signature bounty requirement) it affected to the quality of the posts. But I didn't receive any merit for the good posts (according to my knowledge ). Its because merits are given to posts which contribute to discussion of the forum and being thoughtful discussions and not simply agree to everything which has already been told a hundred times before you post. Truely speaking, stop participating in those signature bounties which pay in altcoins or so. They are not worth your time which you should spend on getting a real job which need hard work. Also dont run after the merits, make quality posts and soon some people will merit you if they feel that your post is worth meriting. By the way now I'm not participating any signature bounty will see if I get any merits without a signature. Signture or no signature - does not matter. If its a paid signature then some merit sources may not read your post for example DannyHamilton. Do you think Signature bounties affect to the bounty hunters merit? Signature bounties are those that pay in altcoins - typically they are infested with shitposters who are the bottomfeeder scum of this forum. |
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well but can u just please change it to neutral i just dont want to keep having this red trust please just keep them and change em to neutral not delete
Well you can forget about getting your negative rating removed at all. Because of the following reasons: 1. You were trying to sell your collateral in the pretext of getting a loan. This rating would have been removed if you have behaved after getting the rating and were not involved in any more shady activities which would show that you repent. But the chances are still low. 2. You sent out retaliatory feedback to everyone who sent negative ratings to you. That is trust abuse - because of this you can leave this forum and stop asking for a review. Possibly Vod would never remove his ratings and even if he does I will not remove my rating because my rating does not matter much.
Being polite does not cost much - just a cool head, but often people cant keep their cool in the dire situations which actually makes the situation worse. |
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A problem is, I think people are in general not very generous with giving merits to even good posts.....
Well here are some links which you might find very amusing then - which will make your claim totally baseless and BS. Do check these out : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;statsMost generous recent merit sendersLike TMAN said, there are a "lot" of posts getting merited every now and then. Instead of complaining that you are not getting merit - you can do the following things : 1. Stop acting like a bitch and start having your own personality. Learn to make quality discussions and not simply agree with everything which the person above you says. 2. Start to read the posts made by the top posters and learn how they contribute - maybe you will learn something yourself and some English as well in due course. 3. The best way to get rid of this problem is to leave this forum. Period. |
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Yes Merit works really well. This forum has a lot to knowing thing. Many newcomers here come only for work. Many people do counter-work without knowing it. Newcomers come here to "WORK" Is bitcointalk an office for you all? Or is it where shitposters vomit and crap everyday in order to get paid by increasing the ocean of shitposts? And what exactly is counter-work? Forum are losing popularity with unwanted writings. Merit can only provide one person for good work. So I think Merit is one of the ways to know and understand everyone's personality. Good Work is not equal to merit. Period. For now there are lot of accounts tagged because of merit system they taking advantage to ranked up easily that is why i think yes, merit system helps the forum a lot to avoid spammer and account farmers.
This is an indirect effect of the merit system. Its main function is to weed out those people's post which dont contribute to the discussion at all and to give some incentive (by ranking up) to those who make quality contributions to the forum. |
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To really understand the craziness around Bitcoin we need to understand the technology itself. Anyone who has started to read about Bitcoin will have learnt about how it has the potential to replace our banks as the way in which we store and manage our money. Many see huge problems within our financial institutions as they are, and so this lends an exciting edge to Bitcoin.
Financial institutions and governments dont want to adopt bitcoin in their economy simply because it will make all their information transparent and viewable to the public. All their covered up schemes will then be exposed leading to all around anarchy. Thus they try to FUD every aspect of bitcoin and not think practically. In last year bitcoin is high value or price, tjats why more and more people are getting crazy about bitcoin, because they start thinking their are future in bitcoin. And bitcoin is easy to spread around the world. Bitcoin is big influence all of us to use bitcoins and learn more about bitcoin.
LOL then those people are really those who need to stop thinking about crypto so much. Actually this is true that they started buying bitcoin while on bullrun and the price rose but then they are the one who panic sold as well. |
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Some people have never been arrested its not something to be proud of. but I was a couple of times in my youth for Driving offences and I have no issues admitting it.. How do you generally feel about someone who when questioned totally dodges the question? Having commited some offences in past is only the proof that you are also a human. Because humans tend to make mistakes and sometimes they have to go against the rules which a machine wont in general do. This fact that you are having a sound mind is that you admit it was a mistake and an offence from your side - the criminally bent minds would not think in this line of thought. If they ignore the question - either they are having some hidden motif or they dont care. Would you trust someone who has been arrested for the below?
* Possess/Manufacture/Sell Dangerous Weapon
* Take Vehicle Without Owner Consent
Possession of weapons was legal at one time in many places of the world - talk about the Wild West and the times when the Gun owners were to rulers in the states. Taking a vehicle without the owner's consent is a theft. I am genuinely interested to hear other peoples opinions of what the likely character of someone with that arrest record would be? I know its only arrest and not prison time, but as they say you cant make an omelet without cracking a few eggs. People commit crimes due to several reasons. One of them is to gather money - which is true for the poorer populations. They would mug, steal, rob or even kill to get money, because its what they are after and not work hard to earn money. Its like an "easy way out" for them. Again there is a big difference between psychotic killers and psychopathic killers. The former suffers from psychosis which is a disease and the latter does not suffer from any disease but they are far from what social acceptability is. For criminal procedure of such people we have the famous McNaghten's Rule - though it has been modified in many places with local laws. Online identities and personas can be so different from how people behave IRL, I mean with that arrest record things like battery could be a little further down the list as well. Online and offline personas are often similar. However that may not reflect the actual nature of the person because the scammers have become scammers because they can change their personas everywhere so as to not gain attention and link. |
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Well, if viewed from the purpose and benefits of a forum, this merit system can strongly support the forum to focus more on the purpose of this forum created. Then in terms of business, of course, the future will be more difficult to market the ICO or new cryptocurrency because if the merit system is successful, then people who left in the forum are the people who are competent enough in the field of cryptocurrency so as to minimize fraud because most of the victims of ICO projects that contain fraud are newcomers.
A forum is created for the discussion on a subject as a public place to discuss. Which comes from the Roman "Forum" concept. This was never supposed to be the marketplace for ICOs to spread their business until it happened and now the altcoin sections are the places which get half of the traffic. Again those who are high ranked now are the ones who are more competent and not the newcomers. The last part of your comment is wrong. Newcomers should focus on learning about crypto and the forum and then slowly rank up and join a campaign if they can. Dont forget that these are privileges and not rights of being in this forum. accounts with jr - member ratings try hard to improve their posts.
while I see, accounts with full member rankings upwards, they do not care about good posts, they just make a post to make money in the signature campaign.
I think the merit system has not been entirely helpful.
Care to explain how you came to this conclusion that it is the junior members who are trying hard and not full members? Or is it because you have some alt accounts here and are trying to get all all of them ranked up? |
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LOL accepting children in gambling? Seriously I dont buy it dude. Thats too unrealistic if not totally false. There are strict rules in physical casinos. Again in online casinos everybody can sign up - but that also true in porn sites because teens lie about their age there as well.
Now considering the fact the governments in many countries are bullshit and not willing to regulate anything lets keep regulation out of the picture. The cops are more willing to let the casinos be as they are and accepting bribes everywhere on a monthly basis or so.
Come to my country and you will be able to bend rules just because of your status. There had been incidences where people had been able to meet the president after false news regarding them had been shown in media. So, it depends from one country to another. The rules and laws can be bend with power and money in most of the places. I pretty well know which country you are from. Money does happen to accumulate in the hands of the rich and thus they gain a status over the poor. However not everyone is like that. But yes the corruption in your country is high but there are other countries which are even more corrupted. Well any proofs to support you claim? If not then you are bluffing and you should stop making up stories like this. Its true that in gambling the loss is big and people leave at times. However I have never heard of anyone losing and then buying the casino itself. |
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It seems that these people are highly successful, so merit sources are prone to ass-licking. Looks pity indeed, just attack some frustrated newbie who is not happy about merit, call him shitposter and get your portion of merits.
Life sucks isnt it? Yeah it does and its about time you shitposters get used to it and stop shitposting trying to earn some easy cash. This forum is far from a cash pit for you. Go away from this forum - and then you can reschedule your daily routine with a minus sign in front of "Bitcointalk Daily Shitposting Quota"  I think you are a bit wrong. Meta is full of threads about merit and I think you need to surf them more before to make any conclusion like that. I am sure the interest to merit will not pass so fast as you think and there always will be newbies or merit beggars who will up this topic over and over again, trashing up Meta section, if you understand what I mean This is correct and this is the reason why I came up with the idea. Lets keep the discussions related to merit elsewhere in a different section/subsection and not in meta. |
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Just give Lauda negative trust, with reference where it message has a border condition.
You have to understand, that it has to workout all those BTC it put into this forum, when BTC was cheap.
In reality you should not be worried about this trust, everything about crypto is trustless!
That would be an abuse of the Trust system. Trust is subjective and one should not give a trust rating to someone simply because they hate them. I understand you all hate Lauda so much that you fell you should give them some trust "in return" - however the fact is that people have been busted for a reason and thus Lauda's rating are backed by evidence, while yours are baseless bullcrap. Obviously trust is subjective and nobody is trustworthy - still you are nothing but a butthurt mobstar. Nobody can punish the punisher. I have heard a lot of negative about Lauda, but I doubt that the advice about giving her negative trust will succeed, because of in the case that if it would be possible this person would be out of the forum long time ago.
Wrong. There are DT members who were removed from DT for being involved in shady activity. Giving Lauda negative from you people will have no effect except that you all will see Lauda's account painted red but not for other people in the forum. Nobody can punish the punisher. I have heard a lot of negative about Lauda, but I doubt that the advice about giving her negative trust will succeed, because of in the case that if it would be possible this person would be out of the forum long time ago.
Right to the point. Quarreling Launda is actually proving him/ her right for giving you a negative trust. I would make more sense for you to calmly explain your point and avoid insults and quarreling. There is clearly no reason for Lauda to waste their time here commenting and/or try to argue a point. |
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