No, I mean teach me how to use bots on an exchange  . In fact, anything about bot trading would be useful since I mainly do my own (amateurish) chart analysis etc. Exchange API plus a few lines of python. Chart voodoo is only useful for guessing what other people's bots are going to do so you can profit from them.  |
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They could only reveal where they routed it to - if there's more than one round, then they can't de-anonymize it totally.
Yes, but once a few bad actors collaborate, they should succeed. What exactly is the definition of a "round" again in darkcoin? By default it says "2 rounds".. does that mean that my mixing will involve 2 randomly chosen masternodes? And when I use 8 rounds it will involve 8 masternodes? That's the general rule, right? Yes. Each round your DRK gets mixed with two other participants, everything signed by the MN handling that round for the three of you. |
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Nah, cashed out the other day at 0.061, tried to play this insane BTC volatility(since DRK is so stable ) Got my ass whipped, now I'm tucking my tail between my legs and running. Please don't tell me you dumped at $162 and then got caught in the bounce back and had to get back in at $210, loosing yourself a quarter of your holdings because that will force me to start working on a "trading 101" tutorial for the DRK thread spilling all my most precious secrets in order that folks round here plug the holes in their pockets. (b.t.w. if it's any consolation, I lost 6 BTC on CLOAK, 1 BTC on shadow coin, 4 BTC on Bitbay and 1 BTC on COINO. But that was all from ill-judged hedging rather than from day trading). tok, you'll be glad to hear that I've taken up trading and my bot legions (well all two of the little buggers) are accumulating coin for me at about 10%/day, no witchcraft required!  I can tell you this: the owners of Mintpal before they sold it to moolah retired rich, at the expense of all the fools who treated the place like a bank. - Well, and the rest of us too, because of said fools.  Teach me the bot ways :S. Sell higher than you bought for, buy more cheaper than you just sold for, repeat. Garnish with some throwaway dust to close the order book gap where necessary and tempt your victims into your jaws of bot doom or move the spot price in whatever direction you want it to go. Donations from your profits to the Darkcoin Foundation please.  |
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I understand the problem that comes from DDOSing parts of the network... but what other sources of danger are there?
It's a complex and dynamic distributed system, dog only knows. - Good idea to make it expensive to attack at all though, just on general principles. |
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Do you know how I can accept incoming connections? Do I need to portforward and change something in the .conf file?
Depends on your setup, I didn't have to do anything at all, just put the usual lines in the config file, stick 1000 (t)DRK in one lump into a new address in-wallet, wait for 15 confirmations, and 'masternode start <wallet-passphrase>' My darkcoin.conf looks like this, if you're curious: testnet=1
rpcuser=me
rpcpassword=meme
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
listen=1
server=1
daemon=1
logtimestamps=1
maxconnections=256
addnode=23.23.186.131
masternode=1
externalip=x.x.x.x:19999
masternodeprivkey=93VPyfxazrm1fR2JQuqgP8RWsfCbBMDUuxgW1BgWqPtzgAM4yvT
MN just been paid BTW, definitely works. I'm going to change the IP again and see what happens but I'm confident. Darkcoin's testnet is free to use...  - give it a try! Awesome. What is externalip? and what is the port for Spreadcoin? How much testnet drk for a masternode? How did you get the masternodeprivkey? Private key? why did you post it? Ah well, it guess it is the testnet. externalip is the public IP of whatever computer the wallet is running on. I'm not even sure it needs to be there, but I haven't tried without it yet. Port for Spread is 41678 I believe. Darkcoin testnet MNs require 1000 tDRK, same as mainnet MNs require 1000 DRK. There's a faucet you can grab some from. You generate the masternodeprivkey like this: 1. Make sure you don't have masternode=1 in your conf file, or have masternode=0 2. Make sure you have a 1000 (t)DRK vin somewhere in your wallet, all in one lump. 3. At console, 'masternode genkey' ... then cut/paste the masternodeprivkey=<whatever> line to your conf and add masternode=1 line too, and restart wallet. |
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Nah, cashed out the other day at 0.061, tried to play this insane BTC volatility(since DRK is so stable ) Got my ass whipped, now I'm tucking my tail between my legs and running. Please don't tell me you dumped at $162 and then got caught in the bounce back and had to get back in at $210, loosing yourself a quarter of your holdings because that will force me to start working on a "trading 101" tutorial for the DRK thread spilling all my most precious secrets in order that folks round here plug the holes in their pockets. (b.t.w. if it's any consolation, I lost 6 BTC on CLOAK, 1 BTC on shadow coin, 4 BTC on Bitbay and 1 BTC on COINO. But that was all from ill-judged hedging rather than from day trading). tok, you'll be glad to hear that I've taken up trading and my bot legions (well all two of the little buggers) are accumulating coin for me at about 10%/day, no witchcraft required! I can tell you this: the owners of Mintpal before they sold it to moolah retired rich, at the expense of all the fools who treated the place like a bank. - Well, and the rest of us too, because of said fools. |
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Do you know how I can accept incoming connections? Do I need to portforward and change something in the .conf file?
Depends on your setup, I didn't have to do anything at all, just put the usual lines in the config file, stick 1000 (t)DRK in one lump into a new address in-wallet, wait for 15 confirmations, and 'masternode start <wallet-passphrase>' My darkcoin.conf looks like this, if you're curious: testnet=1
rpcuser=me
rpcpassword=meme
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
listen=1
server=1
daemon=1
logtimestamps=1
maxconnections=256
addnode=23.23.186.131
masternode=1
externalip=x.x.x.x:19999
masternodeprivkey=93VPyfxazrm1fR2JQuqgP8RWsfCbBMDUuxgW1BgWqPtzgAM4yvT
MN just been paid BTW, definitely works. I'm going to change the IP again and see what happens but I'm confident. Darkcoin's testnet is free to use... - give it a try! |
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We will see, if spreadcoin can make truly accessible masternodes that don't need you to invest an arm and a leg to take part.
Dirt cheap to set up means dirt cheap for bad actors to set up... but as I have previously prophesied, they aren't going be dirt cheap for long. |
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I was thinking that the problem with a dynamic ip is that when it changes you'll need to wait another 2 days (or whatever) to get accepted as a masternode again. But I assume Mr. Spread will make it so that your masternode key is remembered.
I'm testing whether a Darkcoin Masternode actually needs a static IP. Just fired one up on testnet from my laptop. (Using the QT client, georgem! ) I think that once the masternodeprivkey has been generated, linking the controlling wallet to that 1000DRK vin, that's all the network cares about, if the MN IP changes it should still broadcast itself as a MN and be accepted as one. You shouldn't lose your place in the payment queue unless your MN is offline for over an hour, 71 minutes or something I believe. I could of course be completely wrong. edit: OK, fired up the MN, checked that it appeared in the masternode list on another testnet MN I have running on a VPS elsewhere, then disconnected the home MN from one ISP and reconnected via another. debug log shows masternodey activity continuing but masternode list on remote VPS MN still lists my home MN with the previous IP. I will leave it a while and see how it goes. Proof will be it recieving a payment in due course... edit2: Found this in debug.log:"2015-01-18 19:57:27 receive version message: /Satoshi:0.10.17.16/: version 70051, blocks=94034, us=146.156.164:19999, them=108.61.203.206:19999, peer=107.191.48.59:47354" - local MN is definitely still functioning as a MN after the IP switch. Great news! Ok, i'm glad I won't need to use a VPS. I hope to set up a masternode really early so that I get a lot of payments before others have got theirs setup. Bear in mind that just because it may be possible, doesn't mean it's a good idea. With the 1 IP per MN requirement, it's going to be cheaper to rent X VPS instances than rent X IP addresses from your ISP, and those VPS instances are almost certainly going to have faster and more reliable connectivity than your domestic connection. And you can rent VPS's without having to sign up for any kind of contract... good luck getting your ISP to plumb you in an extra ten IP's for a few bucks a month without having to sign up for a big upfront cost and a 6/12 month contractual obligation to keep paying. It is, however, nice to have the option. |
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I was thinking that the problem with a dynamic ip is that when it changes you'll need to wait another 2 days (or whatever) to get accepted as a masternode again. But I assume Mr. Spread will make it so that your masternode key is remembered.
I'm testing whether a Darkcoin Masternode actually needs a static IP. Just fired one up on testnet from my laptop. (Using the QT client, georgem! ) I think that once the masternodeprivkey has been generated, linking the controlling wallet to that 1000DRK vin, that's all the network cares about, if the MN IP changes it should still broadcast itself as a MN and be accepted as one. You shouldn't lose your place in the payment queue unless your MN is offline for over an hour, 71 minutes or something I believe. I could of course be completely wrong. edit: OK, fired up the MN, checked that it appeared in the masternode list on another testnet MN I have running on a VPS elsewhere, then disconnected the home MN from one ISP and reconnected via another. debug log shows masternodey activity continuing but masternode list on remote VPS MN still lists my home MN with the previous IP. I will leave it a while and see how it goes. Proof will be it recieving a payment in due course... edit2: Found this in debug.log:"2015-01-18 19:57:27 receive version message: /Satoshi:0.10.17.16/: version 70051, blocks=94034, us=146.156.164:19999, them=108.61.203.206:19999, peer=107.191.48.59:47354" - local MN is definitely still functioning as a MN after the IP switch. |
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And a Masternode is just a wallet with some linked collateral, I regularly use a wallet that happens to also 'be' a Masternode.
Well ofcourse the daemon is just the same for wallet and masternode, but they run in a different mode, right? But it's not like with darkcoin you had your QT-wallet on your home-pc act like a masternode, right? But maybe SPR will allow for that. (sorry for the dumb questions, I never ran a masternode, but I plan to, soon, side by side with a SPR node, :-) ) The QT client is just the daemon with some GUI stuff on top, you can run a MN via the QT just fine, but then your CPU/RAM/HD etc. requirements are all double because you need all the extra stuff for the GUI client to work, so you're having to run/rent a beefier server... why bother? It's easier and cheaper to use the CLI daemon. Nothing stopping you from running a MN at home using the QT client if that's what you want to do though. |
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That's cool.so is that possible to run tens of MN in my LAN with the same IP ?
Currently each Darkcoin Masternode needs its own discrete IP. |
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So I will look forward to install a SPR masternode on one of my raspberry Pi's then, and run it from my home?  If I understood you correctly we come closer and closer to one day have our masternode INSIDE our wallet? Having them both be the same thing if a person desires? (Another person might desire to run a big server why not) You can run bitcoind on a pi with a bit of effort but spreadcoind in Masternode mode is going to have a shitload more overhead, I don't think a pi is going to cut it. Plenty of better spec'd cheap little SOC boards out there though. And a Masternode is just a wallet with some linked collateral, I regularly use a wallet that happens to also 'be' a Masternode. |
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What's centralized about what i said? You think one person having 10% of a network is centralization?
If you really believe that 10% is menial, give me 10% of your cryptos, then tell me how decentralized you feel in the morning. One person owning x% of the Masternodes is a very different thing from one person owning x% of the hashpower. Probability of attack success does not scale linearly with attacker numbers when it comes to Masternodes. Masternodes are selected each block/transaction effectively randomly, in an n-of-m fashion. Do the math on the chances of 10% of Masternodes belonging to one person being compromised enabling anyone to trace a transaction through for example 8 rounds of Darksend: 0.1^8 = 0.00000001. Good luck with that. At 51% compromised Masternodes it rises to a mighty 4.58% chance of success, vs a 51% hashpower attack which has a 100% chance of success. If you're not getting that Masternodes are fucking awesome, I suggest laying off whatever shit you're smoking and injecting some steroids directly into your brain. Might take you a few stabs to locate it... |
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But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.
All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain. Every wallet syncs with the rest of the network or it would be useless. But my question is, how does my wallet help other wallets sync. My understanding has always been that usually you need to do some tweaking in the conf file and your router before your wallet can truly act like a full node with many in/out connections. Hasn't bitcoin only got something like 10k full nodes worldwide? Maybe I am mixing up things a little bit here. I experienced the same thing with BitMessage by the way. If I just install it the way it comes, it will not run perfectly, but stay in a kind of semi connected way, allowing for the download of the blockchain and transmitting of my messages, but not really helping at all when it comes to spreading the blockchain to other nodes. Right? It needs router and conf adjustments to be able to do that. I assume it's the same thing with all blockchain/wallet related software. But it depends what firewall/router configuration you have. And that's where Masternodes come in which serve as full fledged high powered servers, and not just wallets. Unsynced wallets pull the blockchain from synced wallets. Masternodes can speed the process up because they can push out more bandwidth, your VPS instance is generally riding a fatter pipe (particularly upload speed) than a domestic connection. Masternodes don't have any more ports open, they should only have 2, ssh and whatever the default wallet port is, unless the server is being used for something else as well. server=1 in the conf just tells the wallet whether or not to accept RPC commands. |
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But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.
All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain. |
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Mr. Spread, if possible, could you please release the minimum SPR requirement for masternodes before testing begins? I say this because I would like to recruit some people experienced in masternode testing and if I have that number, it'll be much easier for me to do so.
Thank you.
I would think testing would be on testnet, with tSPR. Mr Spread should mine a few hundred thousand so we can grab what we need from a faucet and get on with it. Testnet needs miners too, but a few people running the in-wallet CPU miner should do. |
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Been keeping with SPR on her for a few weeks now. Thinking I should get in but everyone always is saying how most or all altcoins are scams, but this seems really good. n00b question but is 53 thousand sat a good time to enter or do you guys think it may go back down and I could get in cheaper. Looks strong to me but I dont know very much yet
mining cost is 60K+ sato now How are you arriving at that number? I am not disputing it, just curious. It would be neat to have a ticker, eg. on the Spread website, showing the absolute minimum any self respecting Spread miner should be asking for their hard earned Spread... |
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We now have more than 25,000 SPR being bid at 50k sats and above. It's quite fascinating to watch this action (or lack thereof really). I'm not sure that I've ever seen something similar in a coin. Very few sellers, no multipools to constantly dump into buyers, and buyers not wanting to hit the ask because to get any size, they'd have to increase the price 10k sats.
Fascinating.
Yep, most coins you can stick a bid in a few down from the top and just wait, knowing that some multipool is going to come along soon and dump straight into the buy side. That's just not happening with Spread. |
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