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821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: November 24, 2023, 12:35:26 AM
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AI has indeed done its job, but it is still not adequate and needs further development to be able to achieve what humans want. Humans always have creative ideas for creating something, so humans will try to make it happen even though it is difficult. And humans can definitely find a solution by finding other things that can help the AI development process. So we can only wait for the development of AI for casinos and gamblers and see the results.

Yeah, I think that AI is now like how the web was in the early 2000s. Some people use it, lots of businesses are being created around it, many people know about it, etc.

But it's still early days.

We will see what this technology is capable of doing. It still has a lot of possible growth.
822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: November 24, 2023, 12:31:39 AM
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One of the most populous sports in my country is football, so since I started gambling, I have been gambling on football only. I haven’t tried any other sport before. Whenever I am tired of gambling on a particular league or whenever I do lose frequently on a particular league, I do decide to switch to another league, but all is still the same strategy, so I don’t have to learn anything new. But what I think is that, if you are playing a particular game and you are not really winning, it will be easier to play on another game if you have the experience before, but if you don’t have experience, then you will find it kind of difficult, and it’s going to take time before you get used to it.

That's true but also when changing to a completely different game you might also get into one that has better odds for you. So it can be beneficial in the end, even though it might require a lot of more work from you in the beginning.

It's a bit like everything else in life. You need to work hard to get good results.
823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 24, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
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Yes you are right, but what I want to emphasize is the whole picture. Maybe if we look at their success in qualifying for Qatar smoothly it was a success for them, but we also can't look at just because they were successful at that time because in reality they also couldn't make it to the semifinals at that time because they had to be defeated by Croatia.
When I see a club or a country play, I look at the whole picture, and when I look at Brazil, despite them qualifying well, overall I don't see them showing their true colors.

Yeah, I mean, Brazil is a powerhouse, they will always perform pretty well. Of course sometimes they lose at some game like against Croatia, in the same way the Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia only to then continue to win the whole thing.

Every player in Brazil is highly skilled. It's always a big name but of course they cannot always be at their maximum. They have won the most world cups in the world, and they have qualified to every single one. No other country on earth comes close to that.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 24, 2023, 12:22:23 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure. If Rafa is to win any ATP title that will definitely be RG. There is some special bond between Rafa and Roland Garros. It's the tournament of his entire career. Perhaps it's wishful thinking but I truly believe Rafa can win RG once again.

As to the Davis Cup, I'll definitely not bet on Italy v Netherlands and Serbia v Great Britain as both these matches promise to be pretty close.

The Finland vs Australia game is probably going to be very interesting. I think whoever wins that match has a really high chances of winning the cup in the end. They have performed quite well in the previous matches.

And in a way they are not the super favorites, so maybe you might get some extra money by betting on them.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 24, 2023, 12:15:30 AM
Messi vs Ronaldo still the best comercial thing ever in the world of football, so until they play for their antional teams and play at certain level in this kind of leagues, we are gonna see this games replicated. Right now is not other duality or competition betwen two footballers, maybe in the near future can be Mbappe against Haaland but i dont really know.

Yeah, but there are plenty more talented players, and it's usually the teams who compete against each other as they have many great players.

Having only two players as the headline is a bit too much really. It's football in the end, a sport where every team member matters.
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 23, 2023, 12:40:52 AM
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most families can't do anything. Advising is useless if he still handles the finances himself. If someone want to find a solution when any advice and threaphy doesn't works, the only thing is not to save his own money. It may be difficult, but entrusting money to someone who can trust can help overcome gambling addiction problems. For example, if the gambler trusts his wife, then he can entrust all his money to her. As long as there is clear accounting of expenses, everything should be controlled. Or by the parents, because the role of parents in saving their children's money is also very good, especially mothers. assuming, his wife and parents are not gambling addicts either.

This is mostly true, but in the sense of making the decision. The gambler needs to make the decision themselves.

But having a supporting social network around the addictive person helps a lot. Not saying that their family/friends has to make them quit, but instead their family/friends are there with them doing different activities, just going for a walk, etc.

Social bonds are incredibly powerful, and being by yourself is very dangerous.
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 23, 2023, 12:38:40 AM
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The last few years Brazil has shown a decline, but if we look into the composition of the actual players they are inhabited by many very qualified players, but when they play for Brazil it seems they lose their identity and do not play optimally. I don't know for sure what exactly the problem they face.
But this is not something new in football, England, Germany or even Spain have experienced the same thing.
Next year they will certainly be working with Ancelotti and I hope that will be a turning point where they will rediscover their true selves.

In the last qualifications, for Qatar, Brazil qualified first without losing a single match.

I wouldn't call that a decline  Grin
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: November 23, 2023, 12:37:19 AM
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because gambling can give you money, gambling can be included in the category of a job, it's just that only skill-based gambling can give you a fairly good income, while slots, dice and crashes, usually you have to make it part of entertainment, don't hoping to get a stable income from all three. If you have good skills in playing cards such as poker, blackjack, baccarat or other types of skill-based sports then use your skills to make enough money for you. but you have to have other good strategies to be able to manage your finances, don't be wasteful and live lavishly because usually what destroys the life of a professional gambler is women and a hedonistic life.

I guess we have different definitions of what a job is.

A job in my mind is a contract between one person and another or a company in which you trade your goods and services for a specific amount of money.

When you gamble you are basically the client of the company. The company is the casino which provides you with a service, which is entertainment and hope to get rich.

Would you consider playing at a game in a fair to be a job for example?, there you can also win something.
829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: November 23, 2023, 12:34:38 AM
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I was talking about this in another thread that was created recently that talks about superstition, people should stop believing in things they are not seeing, when they play and win, they soon start believing that they won because something X or Y gave them luck, So if from now on they keep repeating the same thing they will be lucky again, but this is a very wrong thought and it leads many people to make serious mistakes in life. There are people who go to the shocking level of cheating on their wives because they think their lover will bring them luck, there are people who, when they buy a lottery ticket, take it to a wizard to do black magic on the ticket because they think that this way they will have great luck to win. the lottery

They don't understand that the witch is deceiving them and that the things the witch says don't make any sense, for example the witch will tell them that he talks to spirits and that the spirits want money so they can do black magic to make the ticket back. lottery on a winning ticket, I know this is absurd, but the problem is that there are many people who believe in this and spend a lot of money to pay for the services of these wizards here in my country, even in the newspapers these wizards pay advertisements saying that they has superpowers capable of making people win the lottery, the most unbelievable thing about all this is that the people who pay for these wizards' services never ask the wizards how many people they made win the lottery.

As far as I know to this day they didn't make anyone win the lottery or anything, as far as I know to this day the people who win the lottery didn't expect it and had no conviction that they would win the lottery, implying that it was an unexpected event in their lives, This is because there are many people who buy lottery tickets, so thinking that you will win, is a very overly optimistic thought, of course all people who buy tickets are eligible to win, but it is difficult to win, by that I mean that things like Superticism should stay away, people should forget these absurdities and live life in a more scientific way, always believing in science, always believing in facts and things with proof

Well, it's not that they're wrong, it's simply how our human minds have evolved.

Everyone has those thoughts at some point. The difference is how you react to them.

Some people give those coincidences more weight and think they are the cause of the effect they are seeing.

I'm not sure about how many people, but my guess is that it's the majority who think like this because it's simpler and easier and nature usually goes through the path of least resistance.
830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: November 23, 2023, 12:32:15 AM
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In the future, AI will help us in various ways so that we can benefit from AI. AI is currently still in the development stage so that it can be even better and can reach a level where it can provide the results desired by humans. However, casinos will not just watch the development of AI but will prepare AI to fight AI too. And later, there will be competition between AI involving casinos and gamblers who want to win. But it looks like casinos will still make the most profits because that is their business. Meanwhile, many gamblers still experience loss because they are not yet able to use AI.

I would argue that AI is already there doing its thing, now in the present.

Sometimes it helps us, and sometimes it helps someone else that wants someone from us.

It's better to learn a bit about all this and be more aware, because things have been changing in this realm for a few years already, now it is mainstream.
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: November 22, 2023, 12:41:07 PM
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In a way that AI has been helping us in many different ways, I think this is not applicable with gambling like taking all the factors to predict the outcome. AI does predict outcome by analyzing previous data, in short its prediction is from the pattern, pattern that a human can't see or comprehend and I think that's cheating. Gambling isn't made for such technology, perhaps it is the enemy of gambling. If AI continue to upgrade, enter all the industry that it could be then it may be a disruption for some causing some boundary and may be a new age of security detecting AIs in some area.

I don't think it would be considered cheating, as the odds are still against the gambler.

Even the most powerful AI will give you certain probabilities, and at the end the casino will have setup the game to have some advantages, independent if you are right or not in your guess.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 22, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
Not everyone is into statistics, I would say keep it simple.  It is a game or leisure activity after all.  Some might find a benefit from tracking all they are doing exactly, sports bettors Ive heard of tracking exact outcomes vs odds offered and % available profit vs actual placed bets.    However so long as you keep to a set budget and dont exceed that, I think it more then likely is going to stay purely fun and many keep track in their head which is fine imo.   Dont think I ever had a perfect records kept outside of the website itself allowing me to go back years to look at match results vs bets etc.

Well, it is not a game for some people really. These are the people that seriously want to make a buck at the casino.

The level of enjoyment they get is proportional to the amount they win.

That means that most of them are not very happy while gambling.
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 22, 2023, 12:38:18 PM
While scrolling through the newsfeed, a news suddenly came in front of me that it is said that Al Hilal is going to cancel the contract with Neymar and the Saudi club will sign another player in place of Neymar. I don't know how true this news is, but I have come across such a news, so I shared this news in the forum. If anyone knows any accurate news about this then definitely share. When Neymar was sidelined for a whole season due to injury, I saw that Al Hilal players were talking about Neymar's side, so why is the club suddenly taking such a decision?

That might be just speculation and rumors.

I think Neymar has attracted a lot of attention to the league, but I guess it all depends on how much they feel it was worth paying for him.

Maybe they now are not so sure about it. Maybe they wanted to use him to attract other players and that didn't happen?
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 22, 2023, 12:36:52 PM
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As every thing is updated through technology, gambling is also updated in the same way. The style of play is different in each case many may feel comfortable playing for fun it is right that gambling is not considered as a source of income as it is difficult to earn here and no one knows the exact news of winning. Quitting is better than becoming addicted basic needs cannot be met from gambling but in reality this momentary pleasure can sometimes appear as infatuation or addiction in anyone's life. And that's when the problem happened this is why it is important to think about your own problems and control everything so that there will be no risk of addiction.

Yeah, spot on. Being in control of your own actions is always the key to having a good life.

The moment that you lose control, either in gambling, or anything else really, your life starts to spiral down into something bad.

It's much better to stop it while it's still under control.
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 22, 2023, 12:35:11 PM
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Well... I was joking when I posted that Brazil may miss qualification for the FIFA World Cup of 2026. But even if they qualify as the 3rd or 4th ranked team, it is going to be a big humiliation for them. Brazil used to be the no.1 ranked team for so many decades. Their recent decline was quite unexpected. And even more insulting for them is the fact that their traditional rivals (Argentina) has now become the no.1 team replacing them. Brazil used to be a well balanced team, not overdependent on any one player. But that has also changed, with a lot of burden now falling on Neymar.

That would be a shocking thing to see. Brazil is the only country in the world that has managed to qualify to every single edition of the world cup.

That is an incredible achievement, and I don't think they have any chances of not qualifying for the next one.
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: November 20, 2023, 10:55:48 PM
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That's one of the bad side of monitoring your records, as you will keep remembering your losses and the amount that you will try to recover,
most of the time, a gambler who knew the amount that he had already lost, got that mindset to try and recover.

Factors that will possibly bring you to keep trying, though the good catch is if you know your limits and you can control your emotions, since you
can stop and you can enjoy it if ever that you win some, having those records will let you keep on track and update regarding your finances.

If you really want to make money from gambling you can't escape the fact that you need to have detailed records of the amounts you have lost and won.

Otherwise the gambler will probably just simply "forget" about some big losses and only care about the big wins that happen once in a while.

In that case, the gambler will feel good, but in reality they have paid way more than what they have earned.
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 20, 2023, 10:53:59 PM
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That's not what I meant. That Ronaldo himself is in great form and not going to retire just yet is understandable. But the question is, will players move to the SPL with the same fervour if Ronaldo isn't there? It's essentially a question of whether Ronaldo's move has had an impact in the long term

Yeah, you're right.

The first move is the most difficult and expensive probably. Once you have at least one big player there in your league the second will be easier to bring. And so on.

That's what has happened in the European leagues, people want to go there because they pay well but also because there are other great players.

Right now there is a lot of money in the Saudi Arabian league, but it's lacking the skilled people. Those might arrive in the future if they offer lots of money, at least for the first ones.
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: November 20, 2023, 10:51:37 PM
How did this unemployed person got addicted to gambling in the first place?
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I would think that many unemployed people turn to gambling as a way to make money, as they don't have it.

Not saying it's the best way to do it, but many do.

They will use some or all of their savings and try their luck at the casino, most of the time of course they simply end up losing it all.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 20, 2023, 10:50:11 PM
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In the process of becoming a good gambler we need to understand; money management, self discipline and self education on the effects of gambling. What works for the next gambler may not work for us. Hence, it's the duty of every gambler to manage their risks by following the right routines. When a player lose their control in gambling. They'll be controlled by gambling addiction. And it'll be much difficult for them to withstand the gravity dragging them towards every day gambling. The difficulty of curing gambling addiction depends on the decision of the addicted person. Yet, it's always hard for them to fight against what's eating them up mentally. But, if any addicted gambler try his best to stop, he'll achieve it. Given time. If they read news articles about what gambling addiction has done to gamblers, it can help in reminding them about their mistakes. Families has been broken because of gambling. Many have wasted money meant for the growth of business on gambling. Another important aspect of maintaining healthy gambling habit, is having a personal gambling technique. Which money limitation is also a nice gambling skill. I still don't get why the addicted gamblers don't feel the pain of the punishment they cause themselves and family members. Changing themselves can take longer time, but when the family tries to help, the time it'll take can be slashed into two. Thereby facilitating a fast healing process for the gambler.

Yes, the fundamental skill that any gambler should have is money management. Avoiding bankruptcy should be the number one driver of decisions for a gambler.

It doesn't matter if the gambler is the most skilled person in the world if they just lost their last cent. They can't play any more.
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: November 20, 2023, 10:48:43 PM
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FIFA made many changes to boost the reward they are getting. Even splitting the World Cup between many nations means developing better infrastructure for football, extend its supporters and with the more games you have, the more advertising you have and more sponsors you get which in the end turn to more money for them.
I agree that basically every match in World Cup is watched by millions of people around the world and most of the time by people who aren't even the citizens of these countries. Imagine hearing Saudi Arabia are owning Argentina in football. Everyone will turn the TV to watch this humiliation! World Cup have its own charm Wink

Yeah, at the end of the day, the main driver of decisions from FIFA will always be money maximizing.

I don't think it necessarily is a bad thing though, for example having now more substitutions and extra time will probably make games more interesting to watch, even though there will be less unique players as you can move them around more often, like in Basketball for example.
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