So how much money do users get from these delegates? If someone have 10,000 lisk how much is your share per month? If that is a good amount of $$ then very few people will sell.
Some people calculated that it will range from 10.000 to 250.000 a year so people will be scamming and scheming all over the place to get those spots. Its a horrible Idea but none seems to care. at those figures i'm willing to sell my vote to anyone. 1 vote = 1 btc :-) |
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ELI5: What can we do at this stage with WAVES right now? I have 1600 WAVE in my account, can I send them elsewhere? Or is my account just a placeholder until actual software and features are implemented?
its a placeholder for now. It's a placeholder with a small leak  a bucket with a hole in the bottom. |
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Place ur bets!
I think that they will announce launch date on Saturday and will be on Monday!!
I bet 5 Lisk
If someone wants to bet would be funny.
Just tell announced day and launch day and winner takes it all.
i don't like a Monday as a launch day. i didn't like the ICO closing on a Monday. |
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I don't meant FUD but it's not really good time to trade IOU market just now. Shapeshift seems hacked and currently down. Go their official site you will see their statement. This may impacted recent alt coin price drop but I am hoping they will recover soon, at least before LISK go live.  Someone has gotten smarter and knocked it down eventually. I always thought they were scamartists, and was amazed at how many ppl out there send them money for "shifting". Coming back after huge hack wont work this time unless they declare complete insolvency. inside job, one of the employee got greedy and sold keys to the hacker... I will stay from IUO as far as possible, none one give you real obligation in cryptoland it was "Bob" and a Russian hacker. |
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I know this would be part of a price speculation thread, but I believe its a logical assumption that the launch on an exchange price will be at least that which is listed on Coinmarketcap.com at the time of launch. We all know that the Yobit price is not official, but psychologically, this has to have an effect on what expectation people will be valuing it at.
I'd be surprised to see the price launch cheaper than that listed on Coinmarketcap.com
Just about every other major ICO (including ETH which had an IOU as well) sees a decline in price at the time but most don't ever decline below ICO prices. Then after those who collect immediately, the price levels off and begins to rise over time. Some try to sell some or all immediately for a short term gain but over time we all know that the coin is going up. How far nobody knows. You can probably sell out for $1 or just over on launch day or chill and drink some wine for a few weeks and sell out at $4 or $5 or ride it for several months and get more. So many decisions  But the one thing that is most likely is that the price will drop a bit below IOU prices initially. Newbies will panic and sell which may cause it to go down more than it needs to. will the halving change things? |
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صديقي يقول لي لشراء ثلاثين ألف دولار هذه العملة. كيف؟
Thank you very much for your valuable input! Google translate says that he wants to buy $30,000 worth of Lisk Real translation is: his friends told him to buy 30,000 USD worth of LISK and he is wondering how to buy? i've got a hundred Lisk going spare. I'll do that deal. |
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Is there a more precise date for the Official Lisk Mainnet Launch yet than end of April?
Not yet.  But, stay tuned, announcement of launch date could be coming any day now! please don't launch on a weekend or a Monday. that's all i ask. |
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exactly then why mislead by saying you will have dapps at launch when you wont
Stop spreading lies, your FUD is not working here. There are already half a dozen Lisk dapps by the community, see them live in action on Lisk Youtube channel: i never said you can't build apps but you can't build dapps as the apps are not decentralized yet. that is to come later when who knows how can you have a dapp store without dapps, for context, did you participate in the ICO? are you holding Lisk, or even Yobit IOU 'Lisk'? |
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perhaps once the mainnet launches this thread should be closed with the last post being from LiskHQ with a link to lisk.chat
Certainly not. Lisk needs a broadly positioned community. And along with many other possibilities, Bitcointalk is a great platform and many users are very familiar with it. yeah, but there are far too many fudders on here who use spurious technical discussions to damage the rep of Lisk. i suggest they be funnelled to lisk.chat to be educated. |
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perhaps once the mainnet launches this thread should be closed with the last post being from LiskHQ with a link to lisk.chat
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It could happen, yes. That is why I was interested in XCR and now LISK. Let's see what happens. I hope you are right and that we go moon. That would be the best for me. I see what you mean, but, most "simply fun" apps don't really need to be decentralized. Now, building a serious poker engine or gambling engine or bringing on financial applications more generally into javascript? This is a problem I'd like to see addressed - how serious are the limitations of javascript for these sorts of use cases? Maybe there are legitimate ways around the problem? Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening. LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK. Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen. also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course. How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site. So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy. what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play. they may not need to be decentralised but if the Javascript developer can increase his or her margins by dapping an existing app then they will do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnu2ov2w2Qi have concerns about market adoption for Waves. not for Lisk. |
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I see what you mean, but, most "simply fun" apps don't really need to be decentralized. Now, building a serious poker engine or gambling engine or bringing on financial applications more generally into javascript? This is a problem I'd like to see addressed - how serious are the limitations of javascript for these sorts of use cases? Maybe there are legitimate ways around the problem? Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening. LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK. Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen. also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course. How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site. So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy. what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play. they may not need to be decentralised but if the Javascript developer can increase his or her margins by dapping an existing app then they will do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnu2ov2w2Q |
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Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen. also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course. How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site. So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy. what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play. |
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also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course. How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site. So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy. the TCR thread is somewhere else. fudster. |
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nice reply, but you really do need to get that legal entity incorporated. as i said before, it's something that should have been put in place at the beginning of this entire process. |
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no reply?
and so your conclusion is...that it's a scam, right? |
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Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing. Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer. that girl is a joke. In her statements she only has one small line talking about lisk but then 3 paragraphs talking about eth. Then even in the what/who is lisk? section she just uses it as a platform to praise eth. if you look at the page, the first statement is "I'm not a huge fan of lisk" lol, very objective. This girl is as stupid as can be. yeah, and i'd never heard of her before Lisk came along. what's the betting she's hedged? must be milking the lisk vs. eth for everything it's worth. tayvano - "I'm not as familiar with Solidity as I should be". |
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These pictures are utterly ridiculous, and most unfortunate, shameful for Lisk and Max. You should delete them before they are distributed to other corners. Look at their profiles, what have each accomplished. Mr. Buterin is a proven mathematician and cryptographer who has held countless presentations, wrote outstanding academic papers and has been involved in technical discussion at the highest level over the past years, and you reduce him to visuals and being 'pumped' or not. How utterly primitive. Max on the other hand has just finished university studies and has no experience whatsoever at a deeper intellectual level, say technological understanding. He is a young aspiring business man, pumped up to bring Lisk to Life. Wish him luck, may this experience be his stepping stone. Attract/pay the right people Max!
There is one thing Max is leading the competition: He has abandoned 2 projects. Perhaps there soon will be 3 Popcorn time when/if Lisk will be distributed... and the moral of this story is that one should never start anything unless it is guaranteed to succeed? i wish you all the success you deserve with that outlook. |
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What can be testnet used for?
Testing. you are? |
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amazing work man need to get this out in the open. hypers claiming fud against lisk i just see facts and facts is not fud tough luck for ico holders 4000 raised $5.9million hahaha they want to make quick money they poured eth profits into here and they gonna lose it now i see a fact. first post. |
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