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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 19, 2016, 09:27:50 AM
That said, I would wait for the Wings team to clarify the matter, but I would assume that they will be running on the ETH chain, simply because it is bigger in it's current state. Just keep yóur address and if moving is necessary, the team will have to come out and tell everyone how they would want everyone to do this in an easy and secure manner.

First stage of Wings network will actually use Roostock (RSK) running on a Bitcoin side-chain, due to it's unique federation protection that enables funds recovery.

You are welcome to read more details here:
https://blog.wings.ai/wings-specification-series-1-dao-security-and-the-ethereum-virtual-machine-ca62e3df8cd9

RSK uses same private key / public address scheme as Ethereum, so the entered Ethereum addresses should remain valid.
In case this changes in future, we will notify the bounty participants regarding the need to change the address.
822  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 18, 2016, 02:33:46 PM
Кстати, все приглашаются в наш Слак, который также является зеркалом нашего Телеграм канала, и там можно всегда получить обновления первыми:
https://hi.wings.ai
Лимит приглашений исчерпан. Будет ли ещё возможность туда попасть?
хм, разберемся в этом вопросе в ближайшее время, лимита не будет  Wink
Поправили, лимитов на вступление теперь точно нет
823  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 18, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
Кстати, все приглашаются в наш Слак, который также является зеркалом нашего Телеграм канала, и там можно всегда получить обновления первыми:
https://hi.wings.ai
Лимит приглашений исчерпан. Будет ли ещё возможность туда попасть?
хм, разберемся в этом вопросе в ближайшее время, лимита не будет  Wink
824  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 18, 2016, 07:07:32 AM
там я снова мелкую ошибочку увидел на главном сайте,просто интересно всем пофик или читать не умеют?

Можно поподробнее?
825  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 18, 2016, 07:06:57 AM
Мы рады видеть что столько много людей ждут новостей про Wings, и я хочу заметить что задержки происходят (как мы и говорили раньше) потому что мы хотим иметь хорошую законную основу, дабы предотвратить "сюрпризы" в будущем как для нас, так и для проектов которые запускаются на Wings.
Это занимает время, но ожидания воздадутся сполна, когда проект будет работать в полную силу
Мы не тратим время зря, параллельно идет работа как над whitepaper, над демо системой и мы постоянно добавляем новые потенциальные проекты для платформы.
Кстати, все приглашаются в наш Слак, который также является зеркалом нашего Телеграм канала, и там можно всегда получить обновления первыми:
https://hi.wings.ai
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 17, 2016, 04:13:46 PM
WINGS Specification Series #2.

Governance systems and decision markets



827  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 17, 2016, 04:10:15 PM
Новый пост на Medium: Пазл WINGS. Серия # 2.

Системы управления и рынки решений



828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 16, 2016, 05:12:38 PM
is the whitepaper gonna be released this month (august)?

there is a very very high chance it will be this month.  we're just wrapping up some things on the legal side.
829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 14, 2016, 07:11:06 AM
Btw, "wings.ai"  I have two pull request on GitHub. Please take a look.

We going to handle all the pull requests with site translations soon.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS DAO Signature & Referral Campaign - Get your EGGS before they hatch! on: August 12, 2016, 05:04:59 PM
FYI - Signature Bounty registration for August is CLOSED.    
Missed only one day(
If it is closed and i was late - i could remove signature? Or is it possible to jump into train? Roll Eyes Or if i was subscribed to july i was automatically subscribed to august?
usefree
member
posts 85
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Hi, for who was confirmed for last month ... Automatically confirmed for this month of august or not? Thanks

Those who signed in June/July was automatically subscribed to August
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 12, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
@wings.ai
In the WINGS Specification Series #1 post it states:
Quote
WINGS is going to leverage this consensus technology in order to create a last resort recovery for funds that are kept in the Rootstock side-chain. In the case the side-chain is breached, and funds are being transacted to a non-authorized address, a request will be submitted to the federation to cancel the transaction and restore the funds back.

How is this different from the way Bitgo and Bitfinex were setup? Surely the federated members holding the keys in Rootstock are not going to manually go through every withdraw request for moving the transactions to the bitcoin main chain? They would likely have an automated system that approves legitimate transaction regardless if a person had come over these funds in a non-legitimate manner? If so, then this last line of resort doesn't really help Wings, this would be the equivalent as theDAO attacker making a withdraw request, and it would go through without any problems as the attacker had the control of the funds.

I understand that it makes a good marketing point, but in reality, how much help is this last line of defence for stopping an attacker withdrawing funds from the Wings platform?
Looking forward to the coming white paper specifications, they make for good reading!

While this functionality is still under a design and discussion between us and RSK, the current approach is to withhold the transactions for a predefined amount of time, notifying the DAO owner and giving a chance to request it's cancellation (essentially rolling it back), then lock down the contract to prevent further funds draining. The vulnerability then could be resolved via contract upgrade, and distributed to other DAOs as well via the Wings platform mechanisms.

Thank you wings.ai for the reply!
I was thinking for this a bit more and was wondering who has the ultimate control of a DAO? Is it the DAO owner or will there be a meta-layer, so to say, that allows the wings platform to force said DAO contracts to wait in line before cashing out in terms of the DAO owner not being able to lock down the DAO?

Say that there are 1 million DAOs working on the Wings network. In the case of a major hack like the slock.it-theDAO collapse, will it be required for each DAO creator to lock down their own DAOs and then cancel the contracts or can, or maybe should, the Wings platform assist in doing this for all DAOs?

This would also mean that every DAO creator has the final saying for how the funds are used for every DAO contract? eg, the curator stands above the legality of the DAO contract? Would this be putting the DAO creator in a liable situation if the creator has the means of preventing theft but fails to do so?


There is no singular DAO creator by the way.

Right now we are keeping our cards close to the chest as there is a lot of competition in the space, and will reveal the secret sauce strategically.

Good question though Wink

What sort of work do you do?
832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 11, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
@wings.ai
In the WINGS Specification Series #1 post it states:
Quote
WINGS is going to leverage this consensus technology in order to create a last resort recovery for funds that are kept in the Rootstock side-chain. In the case the side-chain is breached, and funds are being transacted to a non-authorized address, a request will be submitted to the federation to cancel the transaction and restore the funds back.

How is this different from the way Bitgo and Bitfinex were setup? Surely the federated members holding the keys in Rootstock are not going to manually go through every withdraw request for moving the transactions to the bitcoin main chain? They would likely have an automated system that approves legitimate transaction regardless if a person had come over these funds in a non-legitimate manner? If so, then this last line of resort doesn't really help Wings, this would be the equivalent as theDAO attacker making a withdraw request, and it would go through without any problems as the attacker had the control of the funds.

I understand that it makes a good marketing point, but in reality, how much help is this last line of defence for stopping an attacker withdrawing funds from the Wings platform?
Looking forward to the coming white paper specifications, they make for good reading!

While this functionality is still under a design and discussion between us and RSK, the current approach is to withhold the transactions for a predefined amount of time, notifying the DAO owner and giving a chance to request it's cancellation (essentially rolling it back), then lock down the contract to prevent further funds draining. The vulnerability then could be resolved via contract upgrade, and distributed to other DAOs as well via the Wings platform mechanisms.
833  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 10, 2016, 11:52:34 AM
В август никого особенно не торопятся добавлять.
Заявки обработаны.
Сегодня, 10 августа в 23:59 МСК завершится прием заявок на подписную кампанию за Август

p.s. Теперь ясно, эти вопросы по всем топикам. Интересно, будут ли засчитывать таких индивидуумов?
Немного оффтопа. А проблема в том, что условия участия в подписной кампании в первую очередь были рассчитаны на создание массовки. Это получилось. О качестве пиара говорить не буду. Сейчас входит в моду другая схема набора. Сначала дается клич, прописываются условия, расценки и все детали. Потом желающие принять участие подают заявки. Организаторы кампании проводят отбор по своим критериям и начинается кампания. При таком подходе эффективность на порядок выше.
Не спорим, модели могут быть разные, наша пока обкатывается и дорабатывается.
Будующие ДАО на платформе WINGS смогут использовать готовую (усовершенствованную и более автоматизированную) схему для запуска и проведения bounty кампаний.

Может мне здесь ответят Sad баунти по рефам уже закончилось?
Просто видел статью в блоке об окончании ,но все равно начисляют за вновь присоединившихся.
У меня та же ситуация. Недавно добавился 1 реф и 5 eggs капнуло на счет. Видать кто-то откопал мою рекламу. Так как предупредили, что прием закончен, то я и своим знакомым сказал, что все они пролетели на раздачу. Кто прояснит ситуацию по этому вопросу?
Я все же надеюсь ,что высвободят n-ое количество "яиц" после чистки от ботов.
Да, реферально-новостная кампания закончилась. Яйца за рефералов больше не будут начисляться.

Вопрос представителю Wings.DAO:
В личном кабинете я запросил награду за июль, сообщив в начале августа ссылку на свой аккаунт в БТТ. Все хорошо, яйца упали на счет. Теперь, хотелось бы узнать, на каком значении моего Post Count был зафиксирован допуск на август. Спасибо.
Уже отвечали на подобные вопросы. Нужно чтобы в сумме было за весь период нужное количество постов. На август никто не будет фиксировать новое значение, главное чтобы за все время было в сумме 40+ постов, когда будут начислять за август
MetalEngine, спасибо, верно.
Если юзер зарегистрировался на июль, то до конца июля должно быть 20 подписей, а до конца августа 40 подписей в сумме.
20 постов за месяц, 40 за 2 месяца или 60 за 3 месяца, в любых пропорциях.
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS DAO Signature & Referral Campaign - Get your EGGS before they hatch! on: August 09, 2016, 09:12:52 PM
Eggs Username:  Berns
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 42
Confirmed for August

Eggs Username:  Swmelnik
Rank: Hero Member
Posts: 556
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically
 
username:  Veves1
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 1077
3 months together  Tongue
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Eggs Username: PapillonV
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 297
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Eggs Username:  antonioa
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 37
Confirmed for August

Why I was Declined on signature please (https://bounty.wings.ai)?
 I thought Dev edited my profile (see below)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1501228.140
Thanks
You sended wrong link. Please check you Eggs balance again now

Username: tobeaj2mer01
Posts: 879
Rank: Hero Member
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Eggs Username: Trial
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 314
Confirmed for August

Eggs Username:  Winter1986
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 54
Confirmed for August

I don' t quite understand..
So if someone has 100 post  at start and was accepted for  July  and made 40post in July then he do not  need to post  in August?
Yes, right

Username: m0rte
Rank: Member
Posts: 64
Confirmed for August

Username: alexandr1115
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 34
Confirmed for August

For a long time the payment ordered in July. Until now, in my bounty account status Pending. When will the eggs income?
Please check again your eggs balance.

Eggs Username:  CryptInvest
Rank: Hero Member
Posts: 2519
Add me in August, please. Wink
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically
 
Can Participant on June continued join or will register again?
Can continue, if he have correct signature

Eggs Username: Sureshnsnet
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 337
Add me in August,
thanks
Confirmed for August

Eggs Username: tosha566
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 139

Add me in August Wink
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Username: 13Darko
Rank: Full Member
Posts: 210
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Username: TicTacTic
Rank: Jr. Member
Posts: 42
Confirmed for August

Name:   starik69
Posts:   1097
Position:   Legendary
for August
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Name:   Shymko
Posts:   62
Position:   Jr. Member
for August
Thanks
Confirmed for August

Bitcointalk Username: Sam123
Eggsbot username:  samToDo
Rank: Full Member
Posts: 180
Add me for August please
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Bitcointalk Username: romanekras
Eggsbot username:  romanekras
Rank: Full Member
Posts: 184
Add me for August please
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

eggs user:  HI
full member
post 491
sign me up for august
I put in a claim a few days ago for july but still haven't seen the eggs.
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically. Please check bounty cabinet again.

Eggs Username: Colombina
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 326
Add me in August.
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Eggs Username: publicstalker
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 349
Add me for August.
Thanks
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Eggs Username: animalroam
Rank: Hero
Posts: 780
For August
Confirmed for August

Eggs username: shiwong
Rank:Jr.member
Post:43
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Eggs user name: btcnoob85
Rank: Member
Posts: 150
Please add me for August
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Eggs username: Perle
Rank: Jr.member
Post: 39
Confirmed for August

A referral program has deysvtuet?
WINGS read in a blog that it is closed. But I still credit the "eggs" for referrals.
It closed now for sure.

Eggs username: Kazadar
Rank: Member
Post: 311
For august
Confirmed for August

egg username: rolyrobbb
rank: hero
post:769
for august
Confirmed for August

Name: colombuszka
Rank: Full Member
Posts: 297
For August please.
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Name: blueed
Rank: Hero
Posts: 511
For August ( Anyway I've joined in June)
Confirmed for August

Name:   oneyesoneno
Posts:   134
Position: Member
for August
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Name:   Jonar21
Posts:   54
Position: jr.member
Confirmed for August

Eggs Username: Krista
Rank: Sr. Member
Posts: 302
For august.
Already confirmed, so August extended automatically

Please use CTRL+F to find yourself.
PM us, if we miss someone.
Thanks everyone for participation!
835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 08, 2016, 05:38:44 PM
   So is the ICO about to start. Any Anchor projects or potential investments yet?
I think ICO will start in September, correct me if I am wrong.


The Wings DAO crowd-sale announcement is pending finalization of the legal structure.

We are working with several promising projects, and plan to start revealing some of them once the legal is completed.
836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 08, 2016, 05:33:15 PM
New Medium post: WINGS Specification Series #1:
DAO security and the Ethereum Virtual Machine


837  Local / Токены / Re: Wings - DAO Космодром! on: August 08, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Новый пост на Medium: Пазл WINGS. Серия # 1.

Безопасность ДАО и Виртуальная Машина Эфириума


838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 05, 2016, 09:05:52 PM
My account is still pending despite star than 1 week?

We are not yet on the 10th of the month so chill and relax. All we have are pending . Devs are going to look each of our account to check the validity and its going to take some time.

hi OP, please be patient. we are still developing the system, and it wasn't anticipated to have the signature bounty run for this long so we have to add some features to make it easier to use on the admin side.
839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 05, 2016, 09:01:41 PM
slovenian added to OP WINGS - Kjer se rojevajo DAO Samorogi - http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9296.new#new

if you are looking to translate please start with the website for now

https://github.com/ChainLab/wings-site (see instructions)
840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WINGS - Where DAO Unicorns Are Born on: August 03, 2016, 02:01:23 PM

New Medium post: Wings Specification Series #0: An Overview


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