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8241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: October 04, 2016, 12:53:27 PM
Maybe can disappear but not this time maybe it takes a years from now. All we have to do now is keep on supporting bitcoin while its doing great now and keep on earnings bitcoin. If bitcoin disappear maybe your are rich that time by earning all your income here in bitcoin.
Yes it will takes year before the bitcoin disappear for real but if theres no reason why bitcoin is disappear then bitcoin will still alive for long for sure and hoping that bitcoin will never die -_- because i am depending on bitcoin right now and bitcoin will be long term for sure if there are more investors to come
Everything can disappear in this world because there is no permanent in the first place, but if we are talking like a real analyst here, I do not think it will just disappear, big holders are already enjoying their continues profit on bitcoin so they will push bitcoin to the limit until the amount will reach to the moon.
We know theres only one permanent in this world the air it can be change but it is permanent if our world lose air then all people gonna die for sure but as you said as we talking about the crypto currencies we all know that soon it will die for sure so enjoy the coins while you can bitcoin it has a limit that you could use it.

You are correct, there are no  permanent  things exist on this world and   all thing would passed and replaces  by a new one. Its just a cycle , as you said     we  must enjoy all bitcoins that we have as  long   we do gain benefits   from it  . Bitcoin would possibly disappear but  it would take time.
8242  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: October 04, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
I will not block my money by just holding some Bitcoins for so long, instead I will prefer to trade to grow and to make some money out of that amount. Future is unseen and don't know what reserves for Bitcoin so having good use of money is modest way to deal. It is not for me to throw some money and let it lock in wallet for years from now.
why not. imagine you grandparents bought a piece of gold for you. they looked it away and forgot about it. they did not mind it and nobody was missing anything in their lives. today for you this peace of gold could be worth much more and would be quite nice to have. why not just look some bitcoin away and give it to them in 20-30 years. beside that you can still do whatever you like with the rest of your money.

It depends on what  kind of person we are, some  are not sensible enough to   think of these things   because they  dont  mind    regarding  on their  grandchildrens  because they are thinking  to theirselves  which they like to make  benefit on bitcoin they have and dont intend to share. lol
8243  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to motivate women to use Bitcoin? on: October 04, 2016, 12:46:05 PM
You can just gift them a gold jewel and say that you have bought it by bitcoins.Then see what happens. They will get very much interested in earning bitcoins.
get a women interest to bitcoin is not that much hard.. you can attract them with many ways. but the thing is how to get them into bitcoin world. How to involve and motivate them to spend their money and buy bitcoin. and this is the hardest part. a women will never give his money to buy bitcoin. unless they get proper trust to it.

If women don't want to buy it and doesn't have trust to put real money into it then she can always earn it in various ways and that is our responsibility to show her how can she earn bitcoins.

Yes we could do  things and show her on how to earn bitcoin but  the main  thing here  is  could bitcoin would got her interest? If not then dont  bother to put  effort   on explaining    it to her  because    if  she dont intend to do it then she would   not  do anything at  all.  Women likes money  maybe she would like  to engage into bitcoin.
8244  Other / Off-topic / Re: waiting for a confirmation: what are you doing? on: October 04, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
I will keep hitting the F5 button on my keyboard, and when I feel bored with it I will read another topic on Bitcointalk. But usually I can't wait for it, so I will keep staring at it.

We are doing the same thing, i easily  lost  my temper especially  on waiting  confirmations   on bitcoin transfers i keep on refreshing the page   and hoping  the transaction  was completed  but  if it takes longer  i do  stream movies  or watching videos  on youtube   and   focus my mind  into other  things.
8245  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: SHOULD I BUY AND HOLD BTC, DASH, DOGE on: October 04, 2016, 12:18:04 PM
Buying and  holding BTC is always a good idea. There is almost guarantee that at some point price will be higher than now so if you can wait for it you will profit for sure.

From the altcoins Op mentioned only Dash has potential to be used as speculative coin. I am afraid that Doge's times are over.

Other altcoins worth trading are: ETH, Monero and more recent MaidSafeCoin

None of those alt coins are worth trading for long term though they are trusted in the markets in a large extent, but still we cannot invest in them and keep them for too long as they are not as strong as bitcoin so they can drop their price anytime.
Maybe you could consider some alts  but dont focus or invest too much on it, its better  to  focus on bitcoin as  you said  bitcoin is  strong  and  its the most   main crypto that  being used today. Well there are  potential alts  which we could also consider  but  the  risk on  those  coins are still their and also to bitcoin.
8246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 03, 2016, 03:53:10 PM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?
Quitting gambling is a must because you then will see how much money you are going to save if you manage to stop.
So it is a must especially when you have a family because gambling can lead to family problems.


Just quitting it wouldn't make you save more money. You'll only spend that money on something else instead of gambling it. So you better put the amount of cash you used to gamble away, and keep it there safe and don't touch it. After months, you'll be surprised at how much you got in your safe. Gambling is easy, but winning isn't working the same way.

If you're really that addicted, quitting immediately would be very hard to almost impossible specially if you're already used to gambling everyday. Just decrease the time you spend in gambling gradually until your body and mind gets accustomed to you not being that hooked. It may take time but when that happens, you'll find it easier to quit

Playing  again with gambling  and  lessen the time would not still work for sure because  you wont able to control your self  again and you would surely get addicted even more and   you would really had a hard time on quitting. Its better not to play at all cost.
8247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 03, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
I have a doubt what to choose because when i was a newbie in gambling i lost a shit load of money because of my greediness.I was not able to stop myself from gambling again.But talking of present time i got control in my gambling habits and now i play it smart so my vote gone with my current situation.

That is happening almost with every person who get started and start winning there, than he made that he has strategy which will never fail and he will winning like this in long run too, actually that is wrong feeling and lead us to lose huge amount there just for hope to get recover.

True, those feelings are just temporary and  doesnt last long  especially on the  luckiness you  have those times. We could somehow called  some strategies  work when it  would be accompanied with  luck and we  intend to use it  on the long run thats  why some or most gamblers do lost their winning back and even  includes their capital.
8248  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Just converted 0.5 mBTC to 8 mBTC on: October 03, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
imagine if you pushed 0.5 BTC to 8 BTC Smiley

that would be something dont you think?!

Didnt even try to read? whats the difference of  mbtc to btc? He did manage  to  won  on  0.5mbtc  to 8btc and   he did  not said  about BTC its "mBTC" which is  actually  do have different in value.  Its not  bit amount though but still a  good luck on able  to  multiply how many times  his bet on that one.
8249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:19 PM
If I was rich I would still gamble because of the fact that gambling is fun to do and its not something that is wrong.
If you are rich you can do it without worries and its also that you can than really enjoy it.
Well if we are lucky to be rich, i think there is no bad if you want to  gamble your money.just few capital just to have fun.
And i think almost rich are want to gamble too..

yes rich people also gamble but they do not gamble to earn more money with that or to become more richer but they only for the sake of entertainment go to those casino and spend some money for to get entertained.
well yeah most of the people has actually tried gambling at some point in their life, i think that gamble can make them even richer
If you look at it like that, i think the percentage of people who lost money is greater than those who had been richer by gambling. But being already rich definitely adds fun to gambling as you would have a bigger capital and losing won't hurt that much compared to if you only have enough money to start with.

Being rich is trully an  advantage  when you intend to do gambling since you could able  to play  on  huge amounts  but still remember the fact that even how   rich person you are if you  do  keep  on  lossing your  money  on excessive times you would surely experience  bankruptcy for sure. For  me, if  im rich i wont  gamble at all, money is so hard to earn now.
8250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 03, 2016, 03:39:47 PM
From what I know there is not reason to gamble in a smart way because the odds are going to be against you no matter what so it does not matter what you do.
You just need luck and that is what is comes down to luck and more luck.

You are right that gambling is based on luck. There are professional gamblers though that finds a way to have more chances to get lucky and that is by creating more sessions and play according to plan of betting - following strictly the system no matter what. They have mastered these by experienced and many tests.
which is right mate the more you play the more chances that you can build your safety system but that one cant be the same with another gambler so theres nothing but your own good understanding about the game you are playing. smart means some edge in accordance to the game you gamble.

I could not agree more to that mate. You are right, each gambler has his/her own comfortable strategy that is best suited to that person and is effective as well. Hence, when someone gives you proven strategies, think twice and try it with small amount of bets coupled with pre-planned bets and the goal you want - if you reach your desired profit goal or limit loss, stop at once.

Each gambler does  have  its own  way on how  he  play and managed  his  strategies as  long  he  found out that it works somehow then he could able to  use it  often but well it all really depends on  luck even how you  avoid  on the risk  there would  be still times that you would  lose  even all of your money in an instant.
8251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 03, 2016, 03:36:56 PM
i only use gambling when i need a payment and i need only 1$ more so i bet for x1.1 profit with and amout 10$ and when lose i'm feeling like i will thow my pc from the window but it is only 10$ after all that can't make a person cry :p

Hahaha cool story, but if I'm the one that lose that $10 I will definitely not only crying but I will think about it all over the time.
And for sure, I can't sleep if that happens to me.
You are not a men if you cry about gambling because you know what can happen with your money if you decide to go out and gamble with it.
So if you lose you just have to accept that fact and keep it going.
thats true, such things shouldnt make you cry because it is just dumb to do that, then just dont gamble if you are so scared to lose
Yeah I think true gambler will not cry because of gambling, addiction in gambling is their lifestyle, and that's addicted person how it was and for me they will never cry because of it when they lose instead they will play again and again until they win.

And when they win, they want to win more. Come on, we all know this doesn't stop anywhere. If you wanted to gamble, you should have already knew the risks you're taking when doing so.
Those the one who are addicted are the once that will never stop until they don't lose all of their money in their pocket, once addicted always addicted.
That's definitely true, when a person is already addicted he will be having a hard time to control himself in gambling because he will just decide base on what he feels or he will just let his emotion take over the game and in that cases we normally lose in the end.

In that scenario, we lose because we keep on betting - which is by the way, driven by our emotions. The more we are very emotional in gambling, the more we tend to bet on. In the process, by playing on for a longer period of time, you are already exposing yourself to house edge and sooner or later, you will eventually lose.

Emotion and  temper would surely  control  us  on longer runs  on playing gambling because  emotion would come out  especially  when we are lossing and thats the time    we could  not make  such good decisions regarding  on our  betting in face we  do even  increase more  because  of  aiming to win back our losses which is  impossible thing.
8252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 03, 2016, 03:33:09 PM
gambling to kid under 10 year old is not good
but is very bad, this brain not good learn gambling to kid
Yeah its not good for kids. me personally when i was a kid i also gamble with my playmates i thought its fine, my parents were both working so i can do what i want everyday. later on i realized its not good for minors and i dont want my kids to be like that too.

Me too i do not want my kids to be the same with other kids in this generation who's already exposed to gambling i admit that i tried to play gambling online but i haven't tried to play face to face with other people i've tried to play card games but it is just for fun and there are no money involved .

It depends on  what  kind of  parent we are to others, because there are some  parents  do tolerate or even teach their  kids to do gambling  which is  really crazy thing to do.  We  must  not mold  to the  minds on kids  on playing gambling because  it would  surely destroy their future.
8253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites have 0% house edge? on: October 03, 2016, 03:30:45 PM
I never heard  about  gambling sites which  have 0% house edge which most gambling sites do make  money with this and its  impossible to think for a site which dont  have  house edge. I do  heard about 0.5-1%  which comes  from a reputable site maybe those who offer with 0% are some scam sites for sure.
8254  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: October 03, 2016, 03:26:05 PM
Great choice if you choose to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin is a great investment especially if you are patient.
Waiting a few years then bitcoin will be of much higher value then it is today making us both a bit more wealthy than we are.

I agree that bitcoin is a great investment if a person is patient and know when to sell and when to buy back.  Simply holding bitcoin will not assure you of big profits in the long run, people who are trapped in that 2013 bubble are still at a lost if they sell their  bitcoin at this point.  The only option they have is to invest  and grow it or wait for another price increase pass 1200 usd per  bitcoin.

Doing short trades  is  somehow  profitable   compare  on  long terms  which  you could  not able to maximize your  bitcoins  at the current state  because  you are just waiting. Its better  to trade it  on short periods as you said  some  are still trapped on 2013 bubble  and they would surely lost if they intend to sell their bitcoin as of todays  price.
8255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin rate is stable since june 2016 on: October 03, 2016, 03:21:44 PM
maybe its bitcoin is preparing for next increasing price in next week or next month, so i think we should be ready for that. but if the price is getting down, then we should prepare too and don't get surprise.

Its might be possible that its preparing of  price increase but its  not always the case  which it shows somehow stability on its price because people would  see this stabilize price is something  different which   theres no active  buyers and  trader regarding  on  bitcoins ecosystem thats  why there a little price movement  on it.
8256  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: October 03, 2016, 03:19:40 PM
Trading is good
But better learn the basic strategies of trading.
After you gain knowledge, then invest small amount of bitcoin in trading.
When you gain experience, then invest some more bitcoins in trading.
Hold remaining bitcoin as saving
Trading is good only if you are having some knowledge about it and you want your bitcoin working for you whereas investing is somewhat safer compared to trading.

Both in trading and investing, bitcoin will get you profits but the time duration might differ. In trading, you will get chances to get active income on daily basis too. But with investing you need to wait long.
No, investing somewhere else is not safer than trading as in investing your bitcoins you do not have control on your bitcoin while in trade you will have control on your bitcoins and your success and profit will depend on your struggle.
You cannot say that, it matters always base on a investors capability, you cannot make people do trading when he is not good on it, of course there are a lot of investment opportunity here so we have to find what is best for us and that we feel we have an edge to make money and to succeed.

Agree, it really depends on the  investors  skills, knowledge and  capability since there are really things are not  for us even  how hard we try but the results would  not be  good compared to others. Thats why its normal for  us  human to seek  some on new things which  could make us profitable.
8257  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 03, 2016, 03:17:46 PM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
If I was desperate for money then I would take a loan because that is the only thing that I can do at the moment because I would not ask my family money.
I am going to make sure that I am never going to get in that situation where I need money.
You cannot get in that situation only if you are saving your money on regular basis, and if you successfully do that then this situation will never arise as you will always be having money with you.
It would  not surely arise if you do have  lots  of savings reserved on your  bank since you could  easily  get from it and  use it in times of you need  money in urgent times.  Thats why its  important to  save  for future and  emergency purposes because  when we dont have any saving and  we need  money  on rush then for sure we would  make or request loan from others.
8258  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: October 03, 2016, 03:15:40 PM
I don't know, cause i am not a miner, but at my opinion better to sell everything actually to have enough money everytime on different upgrades.

I don't agree, I'd sell as much as I need to cover the bills which were made by mining and save the rest of the bitcoins. They are kinda stabelish now but they will go up again for sure.

Yeah, saving might mean a great future for you. If the same thing will happen as it did in 2013 after the halving, we will all be rich here. Grin

True saving is the best option in my opinion but anyways this thread is so old and mining solo at home for example is not profitable anymore. But to your question to save or sell bitcoin, save it!

True this  thread is  old  already and you are right mining  as of  today would not be  profitable anymore  because of lots of factors that affect it. Mining would  be  good  if you have the right equips  but  in the question on you should save ,sell then its better  to save more and  more  but dont forget to spent some  of it  on helping the  bitcoin ecosystem in able to grow.
8259  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: October 03, 2016, 03:12:12 PM
Paper money is going to keep existing for some time now because it is way to soon for us to make everything about money digital.
We should not rush things because then things will go wrong, time is needed for something big like that.

Thank you for clarifying it for other to really see it.
They are too much clinged on how bitcoin changed their life and now they want everything to be run by it. Not thinking about the consequences.

There are people  do really rush  up into things which they dont see on the progress and time  required  in able to  achieve such thing . Yes, in future  their would   be somehow a digital transactions which could make some cashless transactions  but still  i wont believe that these things would  replace fiat anytime soon.
8260  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: October 03, 2016, 03:09:19 PM
For me if you really don't need to loan because your reason is just for your entertainment or anything that is not a valid reason for it. Then it is better if you are just going to keep quiet and you are not going to borrow anymore because that is just going to put you in debt after you enjoyed the money you borrowed when paying time is come.

Thats a good advice. As possible, lending is not a good idea unless it is very necessary to your needs. Its too risky to loans someone, whom yo know only i forum I mean no physical contact or meet each other.

I wonder why btcjam is in lending business and it seems they are ok, how much the payment rate?
Having a good capital, you can start a real lending business in your place but never do it online, when you do that in your place it is less risky as you can do things that would ensure that you borrower will be able to repay the loan, you can require your applicants to comply with the requirement prior releasing a loan that you cannot do it online.

Well starting a lending business is really hard enough because there are a lot of people that is going to make application just for you to lend them and if they are not going to pass your requirements or qualification you are going to reject them. And there are borrowers when they are rejected they are going to hate the lenders.
Well hating  lenders would be a normal thing especially when you are  a borrower and  the lendor  doesnt  grant your request  for  sure you would be mad  and even  curse  him  but   we cant blame him  because  there are  requirements and   qualification that you should able you to pass  for you  to be selected or granted  to a loan.
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