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8241  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: October 22, 2016, 02:56:55 PM
I don't have passive income right now except sig campaign and i earn here approximately of 0.175 bitcoin monthly and that's good rate for me as a student and i don't really know what's next i trade sometimes and i do gambling also but all in all i just holding my coins waiting for the bitcoin increase.

Sig campaign s not really a passive income cause you have to be active and contribute daily in order to get paid. Passive income means running on autopilot and it s really hard to find something like that these days.

You are right, signature campaigns  are not considered as  a  passive income because  you would need to work   in able to earn bitcoin  unlike on having passive income  means  you would  do nothing  but   you still gain  profits  which  are  possibly do  happen when you do have  investments and as you said   its really hard to  find  this  kind  of thing  on  having passive  income  and its   not really an easy thing .
8242  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i want start cloudmining !!! on: October 22, 2016, 01:48:46 PM
It is difficult to identify legit cloud mining sites, because all new sites are ponzi scheme, but as far as know there are three sites still paying, hashflare, hashnest, and genesis mining. For me, I prefer to mine altcoins myself, if you want to know the mining difficulties and the best coins to mine use this site: http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

I do  know those  3 standing still  cloud mining sites that you mentioned  but still i wont  prefer  to join those cloud mining  schemes ever again   because   im done  with  the previous cloud  mining sites before which  it really waste of  all of  my  bitcoin and  have a hard time to   move on  or cope  up with it. Mining altcoin would  be a very good idea   though if  you have  enough  amount to invest  on  since  the difficulty  of mining isnt  hard as  bitcoin.
8243  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 22, 2016, 01:13:49 PM
very honestly i have no idea about Paypal actually i have never use it and have no account in it, i have heard from my friends that paypal service is regional and not universal, ans it is also banned in some countries therefore to me bitcoin is too good from paypal as because bitcoin is a universal currency and you can find its service in all over the world, and i think the number of bitcoin users will also be more than the users of paypal
I tell you that its more good to use bitcoin. paypal is hard to use than bitcoin for me bitcoin is easy to use and dont need to verify with your creditcard.. unlike paypal. so bitcoin is more good for me to use..
i agree with you that bitcoin is much more good than paypal and i never use paypal because paypal is not available in everywhere so i use bitcoin because bitcoin is available in everywhere and bitcoin transaction is very fast and secure than paypal.

If you make a statement about Bitcoin being better than PayPal, then at least make sure you have used PayPal before in order to make a right and fair comparison. I can also say that Bitcoin is by far better than Perfect Money while I never used PM before, but that wouldn't make sense.

Right, if you're not used something then better don't compare it with other things. I have used both and using Paypal from many years, and I like both of them because both got different advantages. Paypal is safer to buy online with some unknown person without using any escrow because PayPal got buyer protection feature. Nut in case of bitcoin if you want buy from some unknown person then you should really on escrow and it may delay your transactions.
That's true, the experience really differs a lot and the person who can share their thoughts are those who already experience using bitcoin and paypal. The way I see it, paypal is beneficial to those who work online as freelancers and those who want to transact does not want to be anonymous.


Thats the  beauty of  using  paypal  when you  like  to meet and know between users  but the fees are   huge even on transfers only. Bitcoin users  would  really said  some  experience and thoughts  regarding between the two things because you could really differentiate them  regarding on their accesibility and   benefits.
Bitcoin  would  have the edge   into paypal regarding  on the transaction fees because as we all know  paypals fee are too big    unlike in bitcoin and also  fund transfers are more  faster than  paypal. Thats  why i really switched to bitcoin when i  first  use  it and you could  already see the difference.
People always love a faster and a cheap service and they have found it in bitcoin, paypal are legitimate business and controlled by a certain company and we will not make profit when using their service while in bitcoin we can easy make a good profit because bitcoin appreciates its value.

Bitcoin does have  many advantages  compare  to paypal  as  you said   we could able to get profit   on bitcoin while  in   paypal we  couldnt because they are  only a service though which transacts  pure fiat and as we all know  fiat has  fixed  rates  unlike to bitcoin. People would really love   to  new things like bitcoin when they already see  that  this  would give them more  convenience and could able to save  more  in the terms of fees.
8244  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you accept bitcoins in your business on: October 20, 2016, 04:37:20 AM
yes it is clearly mention in front of my shop that bitcoin are accepting here but  as the number of bitcoin users are very little here in my area therefore i still not receive any bitocin from the customer for shopping but hope that a time will come when the number of bitcoin user will increase too much.
It is good there is store who accept bitcoins as payment method although just a little amount users of bitcoins, at my local area only me who active using bitcoins and there are not people who know about bitcoins, although i have explained. They still don't understand, but If we visit Bali (country Indonesia) there are stores and hotel who accept bitcoins.

It might  not be available this time because bitcoin adoption is not  fully spread throughout the globe  but for sure  it would be available soon  when adoption arises and  we should wait on that, its not bad to start your business with  bitcoin payments  because it wont affect you after all.
8245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 20, 2016, 04:13:40 AM

Gambling users luck to win in the game but trading needs your skills and knowledge to succeed in trading, your win in gambling is no question just a temporary one but in trading you will mature as you stay longer which will give you a chance to be an expert in trading and make money consistently.

But we can not erase of the fact that in both gambling and trading we are risking money, so trading can be called as gambling too. Chances of losing is possible in both.

If in trading there's no such thing as money loss then that is not a gamble anymore but it's impossible people will not experienced loss.

Correct, trading  is  somehow  like to gambling because we are risking our  money to earn money and the  probability and  chances  of  lossing  money is still there thats  why they are the same on the risk  but  in trading you could  possibly lessen it  with proper knowledge and skills  unlike on gambling that  you are just risking blindly.
8246  Economy / Speculation / Re: It took only 11 days to go from 639 to 1148 last time on: October 20, 2016, 04:06:14 AM
Lets hope we will achieve such an nice amount again, I do not see it happen fast but it would be nice if we see it happen.
I think that its possible in the future and maybe even faster.

We are hoping the same thing  too, not only us  but all of  bitcoin users would  love to see those  prices again  or even more. It would  really not happen  in a fast way because  adoption  is the main issue  here. If bitcoins adoption would rapidly increase then  as  expected the price would increase too.
8247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at $6000 and Top Altcoins at $600? on: October 20, 2016, 04:04:50 AM
I cannot see this happening, the price is not near this at all and the price that you want is just way too high, I think we are very far from it.
Maybe in the far future but far from now.. that is one thing that is for sure.

I strongly agree with you regarding on this matter which  is  the price is too unrealistic to consider because as we can see on bitcoins price its still having a hard time   for it to pass  even on  $1000 mark again and  the  price  increase  is only on small amounts and gradually and we could somehow say  that  it would really take  time  for it  to reach  such high amount and it would  really need also mass adoption.
8248  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io | social gambling game | Prov fair | 0.025 mBit faucet | VIP Prog on: October 20, 2016, 03:59:52 AM
Yes correct the faucet created to try the game not for get easy money then withdraw it
but not impossible if you lucky you can multiply it then withdraw it
you can see other gambling site only give around 200 satoshi
please stop complain about it mate, just enjoy the game if you want earn more dont hesitate to deposit
good luck for you all Smiley

Faucet amounts are  just good  for  giving  a try on a certain gambling site  and  not  for the  purpose  on making money  with it. Agree with you  , its better to make depostis rather than  on  depending on  faucet amounts, there are really people  like that.
8249  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2016, 03:58:01 AM
Teaching kids   about bitcoin would  be a hard thing to do for sure because  their  knowledge into  things  isnt  enough  to  absorb informations  regarding  on bitcoin thats why  its better to teach them when they are  old enough  to understand things. Because bitcoin is complex and you couldnt  teach it directly into young minds.
8250  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: October 20, 2016, 03:53:55 AM
Gambling is the best way to make 7 bitcoin with capital of 27 bitcoin try to play on bustabit.com where you can bet 1 million satoshi there and you can easily win 0.01 per bet if you gonna play with smart and you will use your brain to not greed and you will be fine for sure

Well I think this is one of the way but this is going to be a very risky way and those people who have enough experienced to gamble big amount and to have big winnings then that is going to be a good way for them. But for those people who doesn't want to take a very high risk then they can just try to buy some good alt coins and trade for it.

It really depends  on a person on  hwo  he gonna handle the risk as you said there are  people dont tend to make such big risk  rather than selecting  to other  alternatives with less risk  which is always  a good decision to do. playing  in bustabit would not guarantee  you profits because  you could be  bust  anytime with 0... 1.01 would not  work.
8251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: October 20, 2016, 03:45:53 AM
I am a little skeptical about online lending. I'd rather lend to someone who I know personally than transact with a person over the net. That is why I am simply just holding my bitcoins right now and just waiting for the opportunity to sell. I am still looking for other investments that would not require me to monitor it on a daily basis. Something that gives me 15% annually as passive income would be great.

Same here dude,  i do have  doubts  on  making a lending  business here  on online  world  because of the risk involves and  its very a dangerous  move that you would lend  money to those people you dont even know and if  i would  choose its  better to make lending business on  physical world and its also a good investment.
8252  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Starting a Signature-Ad Campaign on: October 20, 2016, 03:43:53 AM
if you are planning to start a campaign I would suggest you read the topics here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.5340    Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns -  here you can find all the signature campaigns currently present at the forum,compare rates,terms and conditions, a must read

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610428.0       Overview of Bitcointalk Designers  -  here you can order avatar and/or bbcode signature for your future campaign

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1087042.0       Overview of Bitcointalk AVATAR Campaigns  -   if you plan to run  avatar campaign only (could be a cheaper option)- this topic is for you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609687.0        Best Campaign Manager in BCT Forum - here you can find campaign managers  and contact them directly

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614992.0        Best Campaign Manager in BCT Forum - poll ,vox populi
   

This is  the best  precise  list  regarding on the things you want to know and its essentially need  when you  intend to  run a signature campaign you  must consider these  things first.
8253  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I do trading? on: October 19, 2016, 07:29:52 AM
i think you can use different exchange for trading, it is not such a difficult job.
trading is not a difficult job on this internet because all you do is to follow the flow of the altcoins to do some trades, You are going to buy some cheap coins or ico investment your bitcoin into icos then wait till the icos period and then sell them in the high price Smiley

everybody can do it but first maybe that person is confusing about how to start, this is happen to me when i try to start trading for first time, but after i read the guidelines and make little practice, i can start my first trading and i can get my first profit.

It would really be confusing  at the start when you are actually a complete newbie  on trading  but  first  if you intend to engage  on trading  you must learn first  the basics  gradually so that you could able   to familiarize  on  doing trading because  if you  just  jump in  without  knowledge  you are just wasting  your money.
8254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at $6000 and Top Altcoins at $600? on: October 19, 2016, 07:26:30 AM
The bitcoin is used a lot and I think that it can be worth a lot in the future but 6000 dollar is way too much in my eyes.
I think its not possible and the same rule applies for the altcoins its simply not possible!

We have our own perspective on anything and  you have  a point though  6000 is too much but still theres a possibility that  it would reach a certain amount  because we wont know  what  would happen in the future but we should consider that  reaching this  highpoint would  really need massive adoption the same  on altcoins.
8255  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 19, 2016, 07:22:35 AM
i will poll for both, as you need a good skill for success and if you do not lucky your skill even cannot enable you to succeed. therefore both are important for success.

Well experienced traders don't need luck to make profit. Of course, if luck can help you in getting more profits than usual in some cases, then it's of course more than welcome. But it's not something they partly depend on.

I would say that even they are going to be experienced traders already they still need to depend on luck and I would say they need both of it.

That is just like a pair of shoe you can't go on if you only have 1 shoe on your left and you don't have on the right.

So I would go for both of it.
Yes indeed luck can make us a profit in trading. But skill is also very necessary to enhance the chances of victory. We can not just rely on luck trading, as gains in trade could be made with our skills and learning and it requires a good understanding of the trade. So I strongly agree with you that both are needed.
yes i am also agree with you, that both skill and luck are important element of success, if you have a good skill and not a lucky person you cannot make success but if you are a good luck person with little skill then you can really make success, as we can see that more skillful people are working under the supervision of lucky people.
Skill without  luck would be still useless for sure because no matter how  hard you try if  luck isnt there  then for sure it would be a lose , as  you said even though  you  have  only a small  skill acompanied with  luck then for sure  you  would be  sucessful but  we should  not  fully rely on luck because  it doesnt come anytime.
8256  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i want start cloudmining !!! on: October 19, 2016, 07:15:19 AM
Op, I understand that you want to earn money, and you don't care about actual process of mining or anything, right?
In that case why don't you ditch your cloud mining idea and focus on something better?
Flavor of the month is ICO investing - try to learn more about new an upcoming ICO project and invest money in some promising project.
Alternatively you can try investing in casino's bankroll - at this point these 2 options are better than cloud mining, legit or not.

His suggestions are  the  most  possible  good investment as of  now compared on investing  on a cloud mining scheme  which is trully a scam on the end.  ICO projects are good as  long you chose  the most possible  potential altcoin the for sure you would somehow  get decent profits after the ICO period  or  it would launch on exchangers.
8257  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Best selling item online for bitcoins? on: October 19, 2016, 07:11:53 AM
I cannot agree more, the digital goods are mostly sold in the bitcoin world and its indeed pretty simple because the bitcoin is also a digital currency.
I really love playing games so I also like this fact because its cheap and awesome to pay with the bitcoin.
Agree with this  , digital goods are   most commonly sold here  on  online world and  with the use  of bitcoin but  still bitcoin could be use in any transactions as  long theres a connection on monetary value and thats the  beauty  of bitcoin.  For me  i would choose  in the  option is clothes and accesories  for sure.. You should include smartphones because its  high on demand.
8258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 19, 2016, 07:06:55 AM
A lot of people are saying this but its not something that is bad, gambling is not bad at all, I agree about the fact that people are saying its bad and also making it look bad too.
Gambling is enjoying and you can do it without any problem if you are doing it for the fun..
things make gambling bad are when people start thinking about how easy get money doubled in gambling and they want to make it as source income continuously. those people are too dumb to realize noone can make it . they just blind by needs of money and want an easy way but actually gambling aren't the right choice , do hardwork and get a job to get money. gamble really to have fun not to get steady income.
The gambling is just an entertainment game. This is not a proper way to lead your life. Do hard work and be happy in your life. If you believe in gambling and running your life, this is the worst idea, and it won't work out. Just play gambling for fun and if you make any profit here use it for your daily needs. This is like a part time earnings.

If we treat gambling  like this  we  wouldnt  get  the  addiction sickness which been suffered almost of   gamblers  which they got addicted  because they are beliving still that they could able to make  money  in playing gambling  and  its  really impossible thing to happen. Sickness  would be considered as gambling addiction.
8259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: October 19, 2016, 06:55:06 AM
Dice games sure are fun when you're winning but when you start having those crazy lose streaks, I don't think you'll still be in that good mood. I prefer playing card games when gambling because there's strategy and some actual thinking going on. Dice games just have random results. The only thing you can control is the bet amount and the multiplier, I find it boring.
overall i don't think dice game are so fun , as most people experienced once you get a losing streaks you would bet like a mad , keep doubling your bet as purpose to cover your previous lost then soon or later the house edge beat you and it was happened in short time.

Same here, i wouldnt say that dice games  are so much fun  because  there are really  some  circumtances that  you would surely lose your temper, as you mentioned you would  definitely get mad when  you experience lossing  streaks and  intend to  doubling bet even more thats  why we are beaten by the  house in the end.
8260  Economy / Auctions / Re: Selling Potential Hero Member on: October 19, 2016, 06:53:07 AM
Sure but for nearly 500 posts to get it there you better lower the starting price to get expect to get any offer for this account man.

No way.

https://bctalkaccountpricer.info is showing Estimated Price: BTC 0.109

http://bitcointalk.ninja/account_worth.php is showing Account Worth = BTC 0.3645

It your account and you fix whatever price you want. But if you want to get a bid then you should consider what other members are suggesting. Those price suggestions are not fully correct and those are based on formulas. But for buyers you should consider to give an attractive price then you may get bids. Good luck to you..

You have  still a  point though  but   potential hero member  on  0.1 is decent enough  though hence  collecting  potential  points  in a longer period  of time isnt easy at all. I suppose this account  being  sale is a farmed account for sure. If  OP want  0.1 price then we couldnt do anything about it.
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